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Whos got the best Afghan?

befa

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Balo x Maruff
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befa

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I will post soon if possible pictures of balk f4 and balkh f3 ( lemon , burnt rubber ) x panama ( pink pistil and lemon orange flower smell, incense )
 

Old Piney

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Out of the four plants I grew of my Afghani # X Hindu kush f2 this is the only female. It's the smallest kinda of dwarf like the Hindu Kush but with thinner leaves. They were all nice and early for outside growing. I collected and froze pollen from one nice male with an extra row of leaflets and will pollinate one female Aghani. Mix TRSC I got growing that just starting to flower and see what I get .I got plenty or the F2 seeds to give it another go as well
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befa

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( Balouchistan x maruff )x Balkh F4 ,surmounted one faith
emerged on July 7th
very strong chemical smell, slightly lemony, difficult to describe.
Balouchistan had a strong smell of cider, some people liken it to lavender, but true connoisseurs will recognize the strong sweet and sour smell of cider.
The Maruff (male) had a strong chemical scent, with magnificent red strillate clusters.
Balkh (males) gave off a more lemony hash scent.
I give the description above in the balo x maruff thread, if I remember correctly ;)

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Shua1991

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Wow Chemdog and Sour d tame , really ?.
Must be crazy potent , does it make you fall asleep after a few Joints ?
I can't smoke joint after joint of this stuff like I could Sour D, it can cause you to "crash" or couchlock if you smoke too much. Definitely after work meds. Immediate narcotic euphoria, strong head high that makes you laugh your ass off when overdone(requires very little) great for entertainment . I highly recommend fermenting the flowers, I did and it was spectacular, 2-3hrs effect.

You may need to grow around 10-20 to find a few good ones but the potent plants are all low yielding, they are susceptible to Powdery Mildew and botrytis, so it isn't for everyone but you can find some really rare effects, still haven't had an indica kick my ass like the WOS Afghan Kush.

I recently grew Maruf black/red hybrids and the effects are nothing alike, those were easy going relaxing and anxioliytic, similar to the Kandahar hybrids I got from Delta 9 labs (Hawaiian x Kandahar/ SFV OG x Kandahar).
 
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Shua1991

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@Shua1991 their descriptions on the website says “ not at all cerebral “
the ferment must have altered that ? You try it both ways ?
It's a THC dominated cultivar, I don't think there was any CBD/CBG/CBN in my favorite plant, so it's like an immediate dopamine rush, starts from your head all the way down to your feet, like a narcotic but the headspace is all good vibes, no paranoia, but definitely hard to form sentences, stupifying. The seasoned smokers I sampled this with were accustomed to NYC piff and NJ sour Diesel, everyone had a good laugh after 2-3 minutes. It's giggly weed.

I tried the flowers plain and then fermented, the fermented flowers were like 4/1 in potency. About .1-.15 was my dosage, while a .5 gram of flower got me about the same 2-3 hour high. The fermented stuff was more immediate, like proper one hitter weed. I've got 10 packs of this strain waiting for my flower room to empty, I'm definitely finding that plant again.
 

Rastafarout

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It's a THC dominated cultivar, I don't think there was any CBD/CBG/CBN in my favorite plant, so it's like an immediate dopamine rush, starts from your head all the way down to your feet, like a narcotic but the headspace is all good vibes, no paranoia, but definitely hard to form sentences, stupifying. The seasoned smokers I sampled this with were accustomed to NYC piff and NJ sour Diesel, everyone had a good laugh after 2-3 minutes. It's giggly weed.

I tried the flowers plain and then fermented, the fermented flowers were like 4/1 in potency. About .1-.15 was my dosage, while a .5 gram of flower got me about the same 2-3 hour high. The fermented stuff was more immediate, like proper one hitter weed. I've got 10 packs of this strain waiting for my flower room to empty, I'm definitely finding that plant again.
Sounds like a winner I hope you throw a grow log on that hunt
 

befa

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I can't smoke joint after joint of this stuff like I could Sour D, it can cause you to "crash" or couchlock if you smoke too much. Definitely after work meds. Immediate narcotic euphoria, strong head high that makes you laugh your ass off when overdone(requires very little) great for entertainment . I highly recommend fermenting the flowers, I did and it was spectacular, 2-3hrs effect.

You may need to grow around 10-20 to find a few good ones but the potent plants are all low yielding, they are susceptible to Powdery Mildew and botrytis, so it isn't for everyone but you can find some really rare effects, still haven't had an indica kick my ass like the WOS Afghan Kush.

I recently grew Maruf black/red hybrids and the effects are nothing alike, those were easy going relaxing and anxioliytic, similar to the Kandahar hybrids I got from Delta 9 labs (Hawaiian x Kandahar/ SFV OG x Kandahar).
Your description of Maruf is very honest, I practice it and find it similar to yours, that's what I like relaxing, not too narcotic and puts you rested, some phenos were the top for extraction.
 

acespicoli

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BLACK SELECTION

Kandahar Black Selection from Maruf (Kandahar) and of the fields of Haji Agha.

This is perhaps one of the best specimens, along with all of the other crown jewels catalogued during this project from various provinces.

Our Black selection features a completely black embodiment from the leaves to the very flowers. It also expresses a very desirable bract to leaf ratio with big yields of dense resin coated buds that can take a beating in the harsh outdoors of Southern Afghanistan.

The aromas on this plant are built around the common elements of smell found in this population which are on a completely non-sweet tangent and represents smells which are basically a complex mix of earthy, spicy, acrid and sharp phenol-based smells.

The beautifully etched buds on a robust structure, which are both dense and covered in copious resin at the same time.

There were several other completely Black individuals with exceptional qualities as such but none more desirable than this one right here in all its glory, encompassing all of the best features in a single plant.

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● After all the selections are made it’s time to take them to the dry house and wait for the drying procedure before de seeding and extraction can begin.

● The resin extraction usually takes place during the month of December when the season is at its driest and the resin has cured to some extent.

● Here in Kandahar they usually dry outdoors before crushing everything down into large piles of biomass which can then be stored for long periods of time and used for extraction when the time is conducive.

● We will further look at the dry house and extraction sites as well to completely understand how Kandahar Hashish is extracted from fields to Gold seals.This is a typical extraction facility in South Afghanistan wherein the farmers sieve their material dried under the sun.

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Maruf, Kandahar Black Selection
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Question: has anyone grown these out ? In a OP are they consistent or the phenos all over the place?
All im finding is 10/$150 if they can be found in stock. But she is pretty! :flowers2:
 
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Shua1991

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BLACK SELECTION

Kandahar Black Selection from Maruf (Kandahar) and of the fields of Haji Agha.

This is perhaps one of the best specimens, along with all of the other crown jewels catalogued during this project from various provinces.

Our Black selection features a completely black embodiment from the leaves to the very flowers. It also expresses a very desirable bract to leaf ratio with big yields of dense resin coated buds that can take a beating in the harsh outdoors of Southern Afghanistan.

The aromas on this plant are built around the common elements of smell found in this population which are on a completely non-sweet tangent and represents smells which are basically a complex mix of earthy, spicy, acrid and sharp phenol-based smells.

The beautifully etched buds on a robust structure, which are both dense and covered in copious resin at the same time.

There were several other completely Black individuals with exceptional qualities as such but none more desirable than this one right here in all its glory, encompassing all of the best features in a single plant.

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● After all the selections are made it’s time to take them to the dry house and wait for the drying procedure before de seeding and extraction can begin.

● The resin extraction usually takes place during the month of December when the season is at its driest and the resin has cured to some extent.

● Here in Kandahar they usually dry outdoors before crushing everything down into large piles of biomass which can then be stored for long periods of time and used for extraction when the time is conducive.

● We will further look at the dry house and extraction sites as well to completely understand how Kandahar Hashish is extracted from fields to Gold seals.This is a typical extraction facility in South Afghanistan wherein the farmers sieve their material dried under the sun.

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Maruf, Kandahar Black Selection
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Question: has anyone grown these out ? In a OP are they consistent or the phenos all over the place?
All im finding is 10/$150 if they can be found in stock. But she is pretty! :flowers2:
Not as good as I thought they would be, they have heavy pest resistance and some benefits but overall, weak chemotypes, not the Kandahar that provides euphoria.
 

acespicoli

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Not as good as I thought they would be, they have heavy pest resistance and some benefits but overall, weak chemotypes, not the Kandahar that provides euphoria.
Im looking for a dark rank one desert type indeterminate branching with some fox tailing when it stacks on weight. Musky menu, seems like most people like the fruity strains these days ;) If anyone sees one im open for suggestions 🤷‍♂️
Bodhi Black Kandahar looked the look
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semi sterile males in the line so I walked away from it... :(
very pretty tho!
If the females walk the walk might be worth a try?
@rindindoo nice plants he grew (y)
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Might take another look at this... :thinking:
even under led id expect dark green leaves close to blue/black not any washed out yellow green
not on a affie...
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think this is the same?
*bodhi seeds/nierika seed trust/supernatural selections/medicine mountain/synergy/landscape of desire* ... Nierika has always been mostly non profit, funding seed .
 
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Shua1991

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Im looking for a dark rank one desert type indeterminate branching with some fox tailing when it stacks on weight. Musky menu, seems like most people like the fruity strains these days ;) If anyone sees one im open for suggestions 🤷‍♂️
Bodhi Black Kandahar looked the look
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semi sterile males in the line so I walked away from it... :(
very pretty tho!
If the females walk the walk might be worth a try?
@rindindoo nice plants he grew (y)
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Might take another look at this... :thinking:
even under led id expect dark green leaves close to blue/black not any washed out yellow green
not on a affie...
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think this is the same?
*bodhi seeds/nierika seed trust/supernatural selections/medicine mountain/synergy/landscape of desire* ... Nierika has always been mostly non profit, funding seed .
Not the same, high thiol(funky) production hash plant with high CBD production, maybe 1/1 - THC/cbd, not exactly a stimulating chemotype. I would also call into question if that plant is even a close relative, considering the bud formation and leaf structure.
 
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Hammerhead

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How does everyone define an Afghan these days? Broadleaf?, Terps ?. short stature? or just the region the seeds originated from?.. I'm finding Poly hybrid looking Sativas in Afghan seeds.. That Bodhi Black Kandahar looks like mostly Sativa. Do Afghans typically flower faster or is this not an issue ?.
 

acespicoli

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Not the same, high thiol(funky) production hash plant with high CBD production, maybe 1/1 - THC/cbd, not exactly a stimulating chemotype. I would also call into question if that plant is even a close relative, considering the bud formation and leaf structure.
high thiol(funky) exactly the current need :huggg:
How does everyone define an Afghan these days? Broadleaf?, Terps ?. short stature? or just the region the seeds originated from?.. I'm finding Poly hybrid looking Sativas in Afghan seeds.. That Bodhi Black Kandahar looks like mostly Sativa. Do Afghans typically flower faster or is this not an issue ?.
Good question from the old school indica/sativa
To Phylos skunk/berry/landrace/hemp/ by terpenes
My personal favorite cause it explains alot of off type... Highly Endangered
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7148385/
Variety 1: South Asian domesticate - Cannabis sativa subsp. indica var. indica
Variety 2: South Asian wild-type - Cannabis sativa subsp. indica var. himalayensis
Variety 3: Central Asian domesticate - Cannabis sativa subsp. indica var. afghanica
Variety 4: Central Asian wild-type - Cannabis sativa subsp. indica var. asperrima

Key to four varieties of C. sativa subsp. indica1​

1.Plants usually with a THC/CBD ratio ≥7; terpenoid profile usually lacks sesquiterpene alcohols, fresh aroma often pleasant. Plants ≥ 2 m tall in good habitats; branches flexible, diverging from the shoot at a relatively acute angle (<45° from vertical). Fresh leaves medium green in color; central leaflets narrow (length/width usually >6), lanceolate to linear-lanceolate; margins with fine to coarse serrations, sometimes biserrate. Mature female inflorescence somewhat compact (flowering stems producing small to medium “buds”), with relatively obscure sugar leaves (a high perigonal bract-to-leaf index); sugar leaves with capitate-stalked glandular trichomes (CSGTs) usually limited to the proximal half of the leaves; perigonal bracts express a moderate to high density of CSGTs. Mature achene exocarp color (beneath the perianth) often green-brown.
ATHC/CBD ratio always ≥7, often much more. Mature achenes usually ≥ 3.6 mm long (Fig. 3e, f); perianth mostly sloughed off, but often persistent in places (appearing as irregular spots or stripes); exposed exocarp exhibiting prominent venation; lacking a prominent protuberant base; not readily disarticulating from plantvar. indica (“Sativa” in the historical sense2)
BTHC/CBD ratio usually ≥7, sometimes less. Mature achenes usually <3.6 mm long (Fig. 3g, h); perianth persistent (covering exocarp and its venation), with strong pigmentation in a mottled or striped pattern; with a protuberant base; readily disarticulating from plantvar. himalayensis
2.Plants with a THC/CBD ratio <7; terpenoid profile includes sesquiterpene alcohols, fresh aroma often acrid or “skunky.” Plants < 2 m tall in good habitats, and often ca. 1 m; branches not flexible, branching sometimes nearly 90° from the stalk axis, producing a menorah-shaped habitus. Fresh leaves dark green in color, leaflets of larger leaves sometimes overlap; central leaflets broad (length/width usually <6), often oblanceolate; margins with coarse serrations, rarely biserrate. Mature female inflorescence compact (flowering stems producing medium to large “buds”) with prominent sugar leaves (a low perigonal bract-to-leaf index); sugar leaves have CSGTs extending more than half way down their length; perigonal bracts densely covered with CSGTs. Mature achene exocarp color (beneath the perianth) often a lighter shade of olive green to gray.
ATHC/CBD ratio <7 (almost always >2). Mature achenes usually ≥ 3.6 mm long (Fig. 3a, b); perianth mostly sloughed off (appearing as irregular spots or stripes); exposed exocarp exhibiting prominent venation; lacking a prominent protuberant base; not disarticulating from plant, and often trapped in the dense inflorescencevar. afghanica (“Indica” in the historical sense2)
BTHC/CBD ratio often <2. Mature achenes usually < 3.6 mm long (Fig. 3c, d); perianth persistent (covering exocarp and its venation), with strong pigmentation in a mottled or striped pattern; with a protuberant base; readily disarticulating from plantvar. asperrima
1 As emphasized in the text, the differences presented here represent unhybridized plants, before extensive recent hybridization between them.
2 Historically, as discussed in the text, “Sativa” formerly represented landraces of South Asian heritage, and “Indica” formerly represented Central Asian landraces. This key is not intended for the identification of “Sativa” and “Indica” strains commercially available today.
What this says is there are two lanky witld types narrow semi narrow leaf that after domestication events
Became dwarfed wide leafed these are domesticated traits as evidenced in the seeds as well
Thats the short

there is so much crossing now it has cbd its indica no cdb its sativa or slight cbd...
seems very much like "pure" does not matter as much as are you happy with what you have ?

>>>Best>ibes :huggg: your MAC crosses are sick @Hammerhead ;) in a good way!!!

The Soviet–Afghan War was a protracted armed conflict fought in the Soviet-controlled Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (DRA) from 1979 to 1989.

Pre soviet invasion afghans 90 days seems long right ? Before eradication efforts...south desert latitudes
 
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acespicoli

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Dasht-e Margo (Persian: دشت مارگو), also Dasht-e Mārgow or Dasht-e Margoh, is a desert region in the southern provinces of Nimruz and Helmand in Afghanistan.[1] The desert is adjacent to the Dasht-e Khash and Registan Desert. It is the world's 20th largest desert at about 150,000 km2 in area with an elevation of 500–700 m. The desert consists mainly of sand masses and rocky-clayish plains with solonchaks, takirs, and rarely oases.

The desert's name means "Desert of Death"[2] in Dari, with dasht meaning "plain" and margo meaning "death"

Short dark green protection from harsh sun leathery water retaining leaves that protect the plant
May have a smell of camel musk to attract pollinators in this harsh environment ;)


Afghanistan is such a large country the variety from the desert to
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Some vastly different varietals
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https://www.nationsonline.org

I read somewhere like 75% of growers prefer Mazari the Giant Indica
for the large yields destined for the hash market

Its those isolated genetics near oasis in the desert id like to search thru
got some southern plateau phenos to hunt from a friend :huggg: so 🤞 🙏


Interesting read if you have the time ^
The Pamiris are known to be the descendants of the Scythians who lived in Xinjiang.

Pamir Gold aroma/effects and impressions​

@High_Desert_Outdoor enjoyed a bumper 1lb (450g) dry harvest from each Pamir Gold. Here are his thoughts on the final harvest.

Pamir Gold outdoor trimmed bud very pleasant uplifting high

Pamir Gold smells like fruity wine. When smoking the taste starts with a fruity pear taste that transforms into a chocolatey peppery after taste. It is definitely a funky unique flavor.
She leaves you with a very pleasant uplifting high that is not too overbearing. I think it is a great daytime get-shit-done smoke! After about two hours the high starts to fade and becomes a little more relaxing.

Pamir Gold is an Indica dominant hybrid

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