Who Are The Coconut Crew? #TCUK

[englishrick]

I have no experience with auto flowering genetics,,, i find them fascinating,, but I've never had grown any myself,, il look into them at some point in the future

Grafting is easy,,, you can hold grafts on a donor rootstock,, it's the same thing as when you snap a branch and you see the juice coming out and you just stick it on hoping it stays fine

Had a look at this thread last night Rick and was wondering about a couple of things...
First, does this provide a means to propagate and keep Automatic genetics? I’d love to make a thousand babies from a good automatic for guerilla this year...

And secondly, does this provide a way to graft things together? I hate having loads of mothers taking up space and resources and wondered if we could use any of this tech to graft different plants onto a single root stock? A super multi mother? One plant with branches of different clones? Like they do with pears on apple trees etc?

 

[Spaventa]

Propagating autos is the big thing to me and would be a game changer for uk guerrilla grows.

 

[Leogates]

Nice mate, thanks for sharing

 

[englishrick]

Propagating autos is the big thing to me and would be a game changer for uk guerrilla grows.

I assume there is a chemical trigger for flower onset that is completely independent of photoperiod?,, it builds up as the plant matures,, similar to how rooting with no additives is done,, i have seen lines that seem to be rather unstable in this department,, homozygous lines would correct this issue and it is accessible in 1 generation via anther culture (part of the kit),, you then double up the haploid with a catalyst,, so I can see using the kit to improve auto generics,, this is a module on the kit that I have not explored myself yet,, but it's clearly a goal of the kit updates

The real experiment is isolation of chemical trigger traits,,, that's a big deal,, I'm not ready myself for that sorta game,, but bro it's an admiral goal,,


It would an improvement for autos (chemical flower triggers),, if the yeald and big wow terpenoids content was fixed into lines,, the chemical trigger

 

[Elmer Bud]

[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=79105&pictureid=1921532&thumb=1]View Image[/url] [URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=79105&pictureid=1921531&thumb=1]View Image[/url] Can anyone tell me what I am doing here???

G `day Rick

5 pages into the thread .
Haven`t been enlightened yet ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Illuminate]

Who?

 

[englishrick]

It's not meant to be enlightenment,, it's meant to be a development in progress,,

It's meant to get you asking questions,, this is definitely not the place if you are expecting the spirit to come to you,,, you probably need to see it in the distance and want to see more

What do you want to see, that's the question this thread asks you,, it's your choice if you want to answer

 

[englishrick]

This thread will change over time,, all the waffles are holding spots ready to be developed into more,,

 

[Spaventa]

Well the thing is that cuts from autos do root but they don’t veg so never get big enough to justify the process in most cases.

If you wanted say 12 clones from an auto, by the time there was enough stem and leaves for 12, it would be well into flower and well past the veg period. The 12 cuts, even if they root, won’t get any bigger.

The trick would be to be able to dissect a auto seedling while still immature so that the clones will veg for a while before flowering.
So the key is to be able to make many clones from very little source/parent material.
If a 6 inch high auto seedling could be dissected into say 50 parts/samples you can then culture them into rooted clones.
The rooting will stall them and then when rooted, they should resume from the point the original was at when you dissected it.
They should veg and each perform like a separate auto.

If 10 auto seeds could be turned into a 500 clone SOG, I’d get into autos very quickly for outdoor here in uk

 

[englishrick]

I am assuming it's a chemical trigger for onset ?

 

[englishrick]

G `day Rick

5 pages into the thread .
Haven`t been enlightened yet ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .

Hay man,, is someone finally asking who the coconut Crew are?

 

[Spaventa]

I am assuming it's a chemical trigger for onset ?

It’s purely age related. They follow a genetic time schedule, effectively.

You would have to propagate the very smallest seeding for the resulting clones to have a full life cycle. Obviously, conventional clones need a functioning stem and sufficient leaf to sustain it self but I hoped tissue culture would mean tiny bits of material could be cultured into viable clones. The stress would stall their natural growth but hoping the tissue will culture regardless?

 

[Smokin Joe]

I'm still lost but hanging on lol.
From what little I understand about tissue culture you can hold tissues samples at different stages of growth for prolonged periods of time. If that is correct I think it would be worth a test with auto's. I'm not a fan of autos myself but I do see their place.

I'm gonna have to go back and read up on tc more.

 

[englishrick]

I'm still lost but hanging on lol.
From what little I understand about tissue culture you can hold tissues samples at different stages of growth for prolonged periods of time. If that is correct I think it would be worth a test with auto's. I'm not a fan of autos myself but I do see their place.

I'm gonna have to go back and read up on tc more.

Yes,,, thank you Joe,, This is where it starts to make more sense and it's not just me talking to myself ,,, your asking the right questions,, being proactive,, this is what the Coconut Crew support,, this is what the kit is here for

Tissue-culture is split into applications,,,, depending on your problem dictates your application,,

So let's say you want to hold mothers,, invitro,, or calus culture, or anther culture,, the Coconut Crew Tissue Culture kits supports it,,

This tek can hold 100s of clones in sort of "limbo" for prolonged periods of around 6 months with no light and pretty much no care,, only a stable environment and nutrition replacement is needed to keep a huge callus library inside the bag itself

I don't know how autos will respond to different applications,, but it's cool to find out,, and it's cool you want to find out too, please share with the rest of the crew,,

Whether you know it or not,, investing interest in this thread makes you part of the crew

 

[Smokin Joe]

Thanks for have me rick, I'll do my best to add coal to the fire every chance I get.
I know an auto breeder that may be able to shine some light on this for us. I'll invite him over.

 

[Spaventa]

Thanks for have me rick, I'll do my best to add coal to the fire every chance I get.
I know an auto breeder that may be able to shine some light on this for us. I'll invite him over.

If he’s a commercial breeder of autos, I wouldn’t expect to much enthusiasm for a method of mass duplicating his hard work... just sayin.
I’ve been thinking about this since autos came onto the scene and realise it’s a death blow to breeders.
This is what I meant last night Rick...


It’s a total game changer for those of us in northern latitudes and especially those in northern latitudes where it’s not legal.
Nobody wants to risk a large investment in hundreds of breeder autos to find the grow got turned over.
If we could turn 10 seeds into a good size grow, it would be worth a shot, definitely.

Cloning and keeping mothers undermines breeders ability to profit from their work so I bet some breeders only went into autos because they felt safer in that regard.

If this tissue culture idea solves the problem, then I think tissue culture will really have a solid niche application that will make it a standard practice among many Guerrilla growers in Northern latitudes.

 

[Smokin Joe]

Well this auto breeder isn't your normal auto guy. He's more of a normal kinda guy that will probably share what he can. I hate speaking for others but I like him and that goes a long way lol.

That said I'm a seed breeder also and have no problem with someone cloning my work. If they do then I must be doing something right and it will only get my name out there more and people that are always hunting for the holy grail lik myself will always be planting seeds.
I'm what you would call a seed strumpet

 

[Spaventa]

I may be mistaken. Maybe a ton more people would get into autos and net effect is MORE sales of auto seeds by good breeders. I reckon that is highly probable actually! Man I’m good... I could sell snow to eskimos lol

 

[englishrick]

Thanks for have me rick, I'll do my best to add coal to the fire every chance I get.
I know an auto breeder that may be able to shine some light on this for us. I'll invite him over.

Thank you so much for recognition of this. Its coal on the fire atm. Its just heating up,, the Coconut Crew is expanding,, I'm literally only getting to grips with the kit myself,, it just seems to work on so many levels,,

I really try to solve problems,,, these are the various applications of tissue culture,,

If anyone has any questions please please speak up,, ask,, I'm here to work on soloutions

 

[englishrick]

Very interesting subject,,, tc applications in reference to auto flower genetics,,

Has it been established what the real trigger is,, hormone,, chemical,, auxin, etc,,, ratios?