Tell him to call it "Rico Suave".
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Tell him to call it "Rico Suave".
The only name not taken is asshat og. Maybe not though idk... Pirates probably had the same problem back in the day. Blackbeard, bluebeard etc... Horse breeders do ok on the names. Legal breeders are different lots of times, the underground is where the real ones are lots of times but men, it's all relative.
Not an OG, but..
https://www.hanf-samen.kaufen/hanfsamen/sorten/tcvg-shit/asshat-seeds/
Just need to find a good OG to cross it with and yer in bidness.
If we were all regular fkn people, my answer would be....As soon as you can claim it as yours and live with yourself.
The problem is that many were raised to be Squids!
No way in hell are we gonna have the same opinion on right and wrong.
The problem is that many were raised to be Squids!
No way in hell are we gonna have the same opinion on right and wrong.
CaptainDankness
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I guess we are just a bunch of pirates. Hey, why not, hundreds of people love Gorilla Bubble.
Everyone starts with someone else's work. Plus if I pay $100 for ten seeds yeah, I'm going to breed with anything nice, as that's what even Sam the Skunkman would do, he just won't release his work and gets breeders rights the right way. I still want to see this Hortapharm bud.... Lol
Rico Swazi
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yeah some kind of hook like that but a name far away from any claim it came from me.
somethin like "Good Golly Miss Volly' or 'Volly-vous coucher'
a catchy name can sell the hell out of mediocre genetics
we've all seen it
tokinblackguy
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Ask 100 different people and you'll get 100 opinions on what's right and wrong, everyone will attempt to justify their opinion for whatever reason they can live with.
My take on it, it seems our passion had more ethics and morality when it was black market, just my opinion. What I think many do not understand is that weed is like no other market and we simply cannot try and lump it in with say agriculture or pharmaceuticals. It's both but it's neither and when you are in tune with the plant, you understand that there is no "ownership" but many will say otherwise.
At times, we sacrifice a bit of our ethics and morality in exchange for something we want, be it money, fame, or whatever. Some will trade more than others, it's all "legal", but ethically and morally, we know it's wrong but we'll find ways to justify it.
Copies of someone's work is not OK in my opinion. Totally fine to make more for yourself and maybe a few friends, but when you make them available for sale that is just wrong. Yeah, you can do it legally, but deep down, you know you're a POS. Someone made that strain and marketed it and maybe even put some effort into what they wanted represented in the offspring. Maybe their family depends on it and when you take the shortcut and copy it and sell it, you devalue it. Just because "everyone" is doing it doesn't make it ok. There are exceptions sometimes, but in general, don't be a schmuck just because you can.
I could go on about what I believe is right or wrong but everyone must make their own path. I let the plant guide me. Granted, it seldom leads me to pots of gold but I'm really digging the person it's guiding me to be, I needed it.
My take on it, it seems our passion had more ethics and morality when it was black market, just my opinion. What I think many do not understand is that weed is like no other market and we simply cannot try and lump it in with say agriculture or pharmaceuticals. It's both but it's neither and when you are in tune with the plant, you understand that there is no "ownership" but many will say otherwise.
At times, we sacrifice a bit of our ethics and morality in exchange for something we want, be it money, fame, or whatever. Some will trade more than others, it's all "legal", but ethically and morally, we know it's wrong but we'll find ways to justify it.
Copies of someone's work is not OK in my opinion. Totally fine to make more for yourself and maybe a few friends, but when you make them available for sale that is just wrong. Yeah, you can do it legally, but deep down, you know you're a POS. Someone made that strain and marketed it and maybe even put some effort into what they wanted represented in the offspring. Maybe their family depends on it and when you take the shortcut and copy it and sell it, you devalue it. Just because "everyone" is doing it doesn't make it ok. There are exceptions sometimes, but in general, don't be a schmuck just because you can.
I could go on about what I believe is right or wrong but everyone must make their own path. I let the plant guide me. Granted, it seldom leads me to pots of gold but I'm really digging the person it's guiding me to be, I needed it.
Unless you have the parent plants it's not possible to 'copy' anyone's work. You can create hybrids or F2s, but those are not the same thing at all.
We just need to educate the seed buying public about this fact.
Rico Swazi
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That's a good point.
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tokinblackguy
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Agreed, although admittedly my thoughts tend to be a bit jumbled at times and I assume, incorrectly sometimes that most would know what I mean. It's generally not possible to make an exact "cop"y and I assumed readers would understand I mean making and selling F2's of XYZ strain is not cool.
It get's me too
True, I can't speak on things I have not studied or experienced personally and I was speaking in general and only my opinion. I am quite sure there were plenty "wars" over essentially money at the end of the day. That is human nature, someone will always want more than someone else.
So, according to many of you, it was okay when people stole Robert Crumb's "Keep on Trucking" cartoon and stuck it on mud flaps and sold them all over the country giving Crumb nothing? I would bet his wife Aline has something to say about that. Robert doesn't care.
Of when Mr. G spends years developing Cherry Bomb to be one of the most stable strains on the planet (before someone else did something else) his work shouldn't be acknowledged?
Greedy pigs. Thieving is okay. Kinda like committing fraud on taxes like a certain dyed red haired BOZO thinks.
Of when Mr. G spends years developing Cherry Bomb to be one of the most stable strains on the planet (before someone else did something else) his work shouldn't be acknowledged?
Greedy pigs. Thieving is okay. Kinda like committing fraud on taxes like a certain dyed red haired BOZO thinks.
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Just in case you're wondering why this didn't land well.
Personally, I appreciate the input. Could use a bit more discretion in the way it's conveyed, though.
Did someone in this thread say that, or are you just trying to draw lines which aren't really there?
@SandyFantasyman- Im not sure if “morality” or “ethics” are the right words, but the “turf wars” and “deaths” were for sure two of the MANY reasons why most of us involved in the black market, before the internet to be specific, behaved very differently than what is commonly seen today. Hell, most wanted to avoid getting socked in their fkn mouth, nevermind war and death!
But there WAS definitely a code.
Sticking to this “code” was no guarantee that all would work out, but choosing not to exponentially increased your odds of having to deal with the negative consequences of that choice.
This is slightly off topic as the OP is specifically speaking about seeds and breeding, and the vast majority of interactions between breeders, the trading of genetics, discussions about genetic lineages and the sales of seeds all happen online, and sadly, the “code” really only worked in the Real World, where we heard and saw things because mthrfkrs were within arms reach. Because their location was known. Because people could be gotten to.
Today.... crooks, cons and cowards suffer no consequences.
It’s the reason why “community”, is these days, just a word. Mainly used by shysters or those who are too young to remember when.
It feels slightly odd to say that it was the threat of war or murder that forced us to be more considerate or polite, but they are as much a part of us as peace and love are.
It’s the money you mentioned that made sure it wasnt gonna be the latter, which is all the internet left us with.
For the most part anyway.
