What do you do when someone rips you off and you know them?

[offthehook]

I'd go to him in full selfconfidence and let him explain his side of the story.

Can be there is a situation going on like in the comedy thriller; Tucker and Dale vs evil.

If you have seen it then you know what I mean and if not then better go see it cuzz it was nicely made and a lot of fun to watch. (oh fuck, the scene with the woodchipper gave me cramps from laughing, but it's not about that, It is how ppl are capable of misunderstanding each other while still beeing totally sure of their own side beeing right. Often ppl all live in their own presumed "reality". )

Got to figure out where his move seemed reasonable to him and explain why you feel screwed.

Work it out some how I'd say.

Then if that would lead to no resolution I can imagine you to be the type who's middle name could be "patience".

At least I am, and I learned that it can take a life time in order to know how to deal with traumatical past events, but the older you get, the more certain you become of the method of dealing with it rightly.

Thoughts and plannings for retaliation are a natural response to such traumatic happenings.

Sometimes the forces of the Universe make us retaliate and sometimes they make us reflect and ponder.

Either way that suits your persona the best at a certain point in time.

I am all for solving matters the peacefull way, but it takes a REAL man to pull it off.

Not saying that someone who chooses to retaliate can't be a real man.

It's all in respective and often not even up to ourselves what to "choose" from.

It is all only just happening man, all only just happening.

 

[supermanlives]

go shark fishing

 

[Securityfirst]

go shark fishing

Thought you were a deer hunter?

 

[supermanlives]

no deer in my local area. no place to hang em and no huge freezer to store em in. for now anyhow. i am planning a hunt soon. i hunt and eat just about anything when possible. ducks coming up soon

 

[BrnCow]

Take all of the equipment and move it. Store it for awhile in case he follows you around. Tell him it got ripped. Then move ..out of town if possible. Come back in a month or so and get the equipment and move it to storage by your new location. If you own the place you are growing in now, have it professionally cleaned and listed with a reality company in charge and make sure the insurance is paid and enough to cover you if he fucks it up. Just tell him that him ripping you off was enough but the second one for the equipment stuck a fork in your head and now you are done. Later, you can set up for yourself and make all of the bucks back up. Your new place need to be wither a small place just to live in or the place you will eventually grow in later.The reason you shut the grow down is in case he snitches you off or trys to rip you again. You need a few months of rest anyway. An he will likely go after a better target if you disappear on his stupid ass. Sounds like you have been had by a con artist. Don't buy any more of his wolf tickets. All that violent shit might have worked in the old days with a complete stranger perpetrating it on someone but you are way to close to this turkey. He will know immediately it was you. Later on, he'll be living under a fucking bridge or gone. If you cannot afford to wait, move the grow to another area and after a month, set it up and go for it. Old friends need to know he ripped you but don't give them your new address. Only a pay cash phone number.

 

[h^2 O]

depends. Part of me says cut them out of your life and never talk to them again and cut your losses. Another says spend some time thinking of ways to get revenge.

 

[Manstien]

you don't need a partner to dig a hole

 

[bentom187]

to the original posts ,end your wanting end your troubles.(this is applicable to all of life).

 

[mrcreosote]

I'll chime in as having some experience with (non-weed) heartbreak of being ripped out of loans to 'family'.

Nada. Nothing. No more. Ever. Period. Retribution or confrontation would cost me more in terms of domestic tranquility (Wifey's family) than it is worth. I'm not ready to chuck her out if she wants to visit her only blood relatives.
But there will be no warm fuzzy Thanksgiving or Christmas holiday cheer with these losers until I see some cash. Not my choice. Make things right and I'm all about forgiveness.

They have already been warned not to die before me because any memory of them will be forever linked to the guy who pissed on their casket in front of everybody at the funeral.
I don't take betrayal lightly.

I gotta go with Blaze tho on this. You are a mark now. Easy pickings.
You have to at least man up and let this guy know that dire circumstances will be coming his way even if you choose to let it ride.
Let him know that it won't be today or tomorrow but it will be coming.
Let him look over his shoulder for the future.
You chose to run a business where being a sweetheart is not a recommended model for continued success.

Then move. Go solo and stay that way. Keep your mouth shut as to where the product comes from.

Otherwise you will be having unwanted guests at your grow site.
Why not rip a guy who will not do anything in return? It would behoove you to hire some regulators to regulate the situation and return your property in the near future.
A nice note letting him know how lucky he was not to be present at the property retrieval should suffice in squaring accounts.
A horse head in his bed should not be necessary.

This guy needs a lesson from McGruff.
"Crime doesn't pay".

 

[ManitobaMedical]

this is a dog eat dog world
deal with it..... sorry for your loss
peace MM

 

[Stoner4Life]

so my guess is that you've heard it before, Securityfirst broke the first security rule. tell no one.

aside from that I'd go to his place and liberate whatever weed and cash you can locate there.

I'll pm you with the rest of what he should get.......

 

[supermanlives]

securitylast

 

[h^2 O]

I've never been ripped off...well I've had outdoor gardens chopped...but never been ripped off. However I did have a friend who got ripped off some time ago...one of our mutual friends showed up one night and he let him in..little did he know he brought 2 other guys with him. Held him at gunpoint, stole like a qp and any other valuables he had. And this was a guy who lived in the same town as us...if we or my friend really wanted to, could've walked the mile to his house and beat the shit out of him and got his stuff back. My friend never did anything. I would have at least set him up...taken a month to grow some shrooms then stuffed them in his car or something...then call the cops anonymously and tip them off, make the guy get like 5 years. That's bad kharma though.

 

[humboldt123]

this earlier this year i sold my 40 acres (humboldt county) to this guy who seemed nice. I'm a nice guy who (luckily) has had real good luck in the past 15 years in the industry and due to that, i think my con-man radar took a vacation for a while. after the purchase of my property we stayed in contact and he did a spectacular job gaining my trust, and i bought into an "investment opportunity" he presented. 25k later I'm ripped off. he has this picture in his head that I'm a dumb gullible white guy without the balls to do anything about it. he's wrong! I'm going to wait till early september after he puts all his hard work, time and money into the season, then his water tanks are going to get a 2am visit from a few gallons of weed-b-gone. idiot dosent take into consideration i know my old property like my hand knows my dick and the water tanks are high above the garden in the shade of the woods out of sight and ear shot. the money he ripped off from me is going to be a drop in the bucket compared to the loss he's going to feel after I'm done with him. the chances are between now and then he's going to screw a bunch of other folks and I'm going to be a vague memory when the time comes to figure out what happened. I hate doing shit like that, but deep down i feel if your going to get burned and not do shit about it, than your a target in the future. good luck!

 

[LEF]

Beautiful post ^ good luck with your project.

If you steal from people and you get knocked the **** out, its only right.
I dont think its ok, but it is somewhat connected, retribution. Action, consequences..

I personally, let these things go... Or at least dont retaliate right away if ever.
Mostly, i prefer to let it go... Its not easy but... If your having a hard time letting it go, imagine the stupid asshole who gets it back, maybe he will have a harder time to let it go... And it will escalate, violence begets violence.. But thats just me, and i have family.

Because of that i learned to be a bigger man, learn to let go and try to see the bigger picture.
And you wanna know the truth... Ive said this before but, people who are not nice with me, who screw me over, from experience, they very often get their asses handed to them. It just takes time. Its scary at first when you see it happen. Because then, that grudge you held, it vanishes, and your left feeling like you were wrong to hold it in, and you see then that there is no reason to hold onto it anymore.

Sure i believe, a person who did bad, who gets his beating/due... There is a chance he will say, yeah well i deserved it. Cant be 100 % certain though.

And ive gotten my revenge more than once in my life, struck back at people who did stuff to me. You get a quick quenching of bloodthirst, but then your looking at the guy, and your wondering if maybe you didnt went to far, and wondering if hes gonna be okay. You can get in trouble....

Other times, someone would pull some shit on me, and i would hand it back to them. But then felt bad that i couldnt resist the temptation. You know, being a stronger man and breathing through your nose. Being able to take a loss you know.

Is this the mountain you wanna die on ?

Also, some people take the blame for their loss. For trusting someone etc..

I know some people they are heavy with revenge, guys who will break bones, part of me thinks its great. It keeps things in order. Someone who did shit to me, who gets a beating, i dont think i could be happy about it, but i think i would find it comforting. Good riddance.

The thing with assholes though, they dont go after the dangerous ones. They are very often pieces of shit who will take on vulnerable people.

We live and we learn.

 

[hup234]

Humboldt123,please don't let his buds get big enough to where he might be tempted to sell em or make bho out of that poison ...good luck

 

[LEF]

I think the guy deserves to be tortured and chopped up but... 20-25 years of your life if you get caught would suck.

A lot of murders in the scene are drug debt/retributions. There is always that little freak occurence that happens. Everything goes smooth and then someone does something.

Over here, there was a couple with children, well the couple were growing pot plants in the basement. Something happened, guys came to rob them and the couple got killed.

Grow your own god damn weed or get a job like the rest of us.

 

[HempKat]

This is just yet another example of why we never talk about grow club. The police are not the only enemy.

I think part of the problem also was you made it way too easy for this guy. Most big growers in the biz had to learn things the hard way, perhaps even you too. Thru trial and error though eventually people figure out how to make things work. You more or less handed this guy everything on a silver platter and as such he had no real appreciation for what it takes to achieve success in your particular market. It's a truism of human nature that we tend not to respect or properly appreciate the things that are just given to us with no effort made on our part.

As for turning the other cheek, well that's admirable of you to be so forgiving many forgiving people would be seriously tested by a similar loss. If you do go that route I would suggest you carefully consider what other ways this person might turn his knowledge of your activities into more free stuff at your expense. Once you've identified all those things figure a way to make his knowledge obsolete. I say this because given this person's lack of respect for what is yours, if there is no cost to him for what he has done to you, then he very well may do it to you again.

 

[stoned-trout]

I take care of business...yeehaw don't tread on me

 

[MelloYello]

this earlier this year i sold my 40 acres (humboldt county) to this guy who seemed nice. I'm a nice guy who (luckily) has had real good luck in the past 15 years in the industry and due to that, i think my con-man radar took a vacation for a while. after the purchase of my property we stayed in contact and he did a spectacular job gaining my trust, and i bought into an "investment opportunity" he presented. 25k later I'm ripped off. he has this picture in his head that I'm a dumb gullible white guy without the balls to do anything about it. he's wrong! I'm going to wait till early september after he puts all his hard work, time and money into the season, then his water tanks are going to get a 2am visit from a few gallons of weed-b-gone. idiot dosent take into consideration i know my old property like my hand knows my dick and the water tanks are high above the garden in the shade of the woods out of sight and ear shot. the money he ripped off from me is going to be a drop in the bucket compared to the loss he's going to feel after I'm done with him. the chances are between now and then he's going to screw a bunch of other folks and I'm going to be a vague memory when the time comes to figure out what happened. I hate doing shit like that, but deep down i feel if your going to get burned and not do shit about it, than your a target in the future. good luck!

Nice, he is going to come and tell you what happened to his grow.
Tell him, "oh yeah, I had the same problem with root rot/ broad mites/ etc. on that property"
"Next year spray with products A,B, and C and that won't happen in September"
Then come back next year and do it again.

After the 2016 season dies on him, tell him that the land is kind of finicky and that for $25K up front plus 30% of the take you will be his adviser on the 2017 season.
Then come back and do it again.