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Wearing Masks
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American Patriot
You can't relate
Ur sir are a patriot and a gentleman.
What’s more American than fervently following unconstitutional (and unscientific) government orders?
Besides dropping a bomb on poor folks in some far away desert... I can’t think of anything.
Refusing to do the right thing.
Right for whom? Mayb who? Idk
Not just you.
Everyone.
Keep on with the indignant whining, just put a mask over your noise hole.
Everyone.
Keep on with the indignant whining, just put a mask over your noise hole.
So, if something is “right” for the majority of people...
Then the people in the minority are obligated to do something not in their best interest out of a duty to the greater good?
What if the majority of people believed slavery was moral, legal and good policy?
What if the majority of people believed ingesting cannabis was harmful and its use should be illegal and punishable by caging or violence.
The greater good has always been the devils right hand..
The gulags, the wars, the mass famines its always represented by the govt as for the greater good.
Perhaps the govt is the boy who cried wolf on this one...
But the data sets I’m looking at show that yet again... the govt has lied about what the greater good actually is.
How is wearing a mask not in your best interest?
LOL SSDD Makes the TPTB sooo fricking happy.
I am right you are wrong!
NO! You are wrong and I am right!
This is exactly why morality cannot be legislated.
Don't push opinions upon me as if "you" have the moral high ground because "you" do not.
When folks are afraid they strive to dispel that fear by attempting to control external elements perceived to be the source of said fears. Unless by force/ violence; controlling others is futile. Tending to ourselves and controlling our own lives is all that is possible, and it is possible with practice.
Those who have the power to manipulate the masses understand and employ fear tactics to create the divisions necessary to pull off this farce (AWA MANY other disinformation campaigns). Yet there are folks who will still believe the manipulations rather than admit they were duped. SMH
Unfortunately, there are far too many who would rather hide than face scary facts.
This is not a dream or a practice run... wake up and participate (apply critical thinking) folks.
I am right you are wrong!
NO! You are wrong and I am right!
This is exactly why morality cannot be legislated.
Don't push opinions upon me as if "you" have the moral high ground because "you" do not.
When folks are afraid they strive to dispel that fear by attempting to control external elements perceived to be the source of said fears. Unless by force/ violence; controlling others is futile. Tending to ourselves and controlling our own lives is all that is possible, and it is possible with practice.
Those who have the power to manipulate the masses understand and employ fear tactics to create the divisions necessary to pull off this farce (AWA MANY other disinformation campaigns). Yet there are folks who will still believe the manipulations rather than admit they were duped. SMH
Unfortunately, there are far too many who would rather hide than face scary facts.
This is not a dream or a practice run... wake up and participate (apply critical thinking) folks.
Not where I live.
No exemptions...
to enter any public building one must don a face covering.
Perhaps you work in a place that requires masks?
Do you think it’s healthy for a person to wear a “mask” 50-60 hours a week?
To isolate from their friends and family...
To never touch or hug their people?
How do you think it affects children? Being masked in school 8 hours a day?
What are the long term effects on child development?
What are the long term effects to society?...
To mental health?..
(A rise in suicide rates seem to be at least correlated to mask mandates)
+We don’t know what we don’t know yet (unknown unknowns)
All that to say... I think it’s the height of arrogance to ever tell another individual you know what’s in their best interest more than they do...
People should have the right to self determination... these government orders rob people of that... and for what?
The data shows clearly lockdowns and mask mandates do virtually nothing to mitigate viral spread.
Hundred of countries, hundreds of data sets..
Take a look at it..
Cases + deaths before and after lockdowns + mask mandates...
If you adjust for seasonal swings...there isn’t a way to tell the places that had them vs the places that didn’t... or even when they were implemented.
Flattening the curve was a first step. There was a phased reopening plan written by the CDC presented by Dr. Birx from the Covid Task Force.
CDC Activities and Initiatives Supporting the COVID-19 Response and the President’s Plan for Opening America Up Again
There was a plan in place. It stayed in place and never moved.
CDC Activities and Initiatives Supporting the COVID-19 Response and the President’s Plan for Opening America Up Again
There was a plan in place. It stayed in place and never moved.
Well that’s very sCiEnTiFiC.
Don’t look at the data and adjust..
Stick with the original hypothesis no matter what the data indicates (or how badly flawed the models were)
Really its par for the course with the government.
It’s why we are still in afghanistan, Iraq, etc..
What it’s surely not is scientific
No part of the constitution apparently.
(The late great Lysander spooner said it best “but whether the constitution be one thing or another, this much is certain... it has either authorized such a government that we have had, or it’s been powerless to prevent it. Either way it’s not fit to exist.”
That’s why such aberrant behavior (shopping without a face covering) has been criminalized.
We can’t just have people out and about with their faces unclothed no matter WHAT (even if they don’t have covid.)
Anyway, I’m done for the day..in the end it doesn’t matter at all what I think, the government will do as it pleases.
Merry Xmas to all, even to those who wish to see me jailed for my thoughts and beliefs
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
All these things are better than wearing and dealing with the results of a respirator or losing a family member
Sorry the mental anguish is far more devastating
Absolem
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Agreed.
It's easy to see how we went from running water, sewer systems, community baths for hygiene, and pushing science during Roman times then entering the dark ages and living by a castle surrounded by a moat of shit listening to Merlin.
In this post ur making a risk assessment... (for everyone)
In my humble opinion it’s not ur place to choose for other people.
Adults are capable of making their own risk assessments...
I honestly never thought I was going to have to explain the necessity of consent to left leaning people..but here we are.
Consent either matters in all things or it doesn’t matter.
And btw, losing family members is inevitable.
Everyone’s dies unfortunately.
You can’t protect people from death, although it has become popular to pretend we can.
To be fair, I can appreciate that ur at least acknowledging there could be negative outcomes as a result of governemnt lockdown orders and mask mandates.
As far as I’m concerned that’s progress.
Merry Christmas
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