Yes, I have looked into Sweden
I just don’t care to go pull all the numbers for you.
Because I think ur a really gOoD gUy
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Wearing Masks
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Yes, I have looked into Sweden
I just don’t care to go pull all the numbers for you.
Because I think ur a really gOoD gUy
Guidelines are not mandates (It’s the difference between asking nicely and pointing a gun in someone’s face with the threat of violence or jail if they dont comply)
I’m 100% fine with the govt putting forth any guidelines they think may help... I might even follow such GUidelines but order me to do some arbitrary (and hugely damaging) bullshit and I’m gonna tell you to get bent 100 out 100 time,
Also Sweden has a lower covid death rate than the USA so if they were hit it was less than our hit... and they didn’t even have to throw all theIr poor people under the bus
If the science is so settled? Why are case numbers spiking im areas with high mask compliance? How has Sweden been able to get thru covid without these necessary, essential lockdowns or mask mandates?
Why is the world health organization suggesting governments stop using lockdowns as a way to mitigate covid infection ?
You say you haven’t seen a valid anti mask anti lockdown argument...
I just gave you a few..
If millions of poor people starving isn’t gonna change ur mind then I doubt anything will.
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So does cutting off ur own head but no one is suggesting that’s a good idea
i notice that you ignored the word "perfectly" in his quote. nothing is perfect. you cannot let the lack of "perfection" be the enemy of "much fucking better..."
he always has been. you're not surprised i hope...
WTF! i got three for the price of one there, lol...
what a bargain!
what a bargain!
Places where the compliance has been high are fine, and all but back to normal.
An approach based in Public Health works and works well.
It is the sole approach which does work.
Current rates of infection are as high as they have been.
This is the most important time to be mindful that we are dealing with a pandemic that has the potential to damage our society in a number of ways.
The potential for a vaccine is welcome and wonderful news, but it may take quite a while to get it to people.
The fewer infections between now and then the better. Masks and social distancing.
i vote that old people, children, military, medical professionals, and teachers get the vaccine first. let's let the folks that refuse to wear a mask to protect their fellow citizens wait for a couple of years. put your money where your mouth is, ya know? 
'Boogieman'
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i vote that old people, children, military, medical professionals, and teachers get the vaccine first. let's let the folks that refuse to wear a mask to protect their fellow citizens wait for a couple of years. put your money where your mouth is, ya know?
Fine with me, I'm anti vax anyways.
Speaking of vaccines it's funny to see the talking heads trying to spin that a German company succeeding in developing a covid vaccine, is a result of Trump's efforts.
The company had turned down Trump funding (warp speed). They are trying to say 'Pfizer knew they'd get money from selling to the US' [- well DUH!] as part of the big Trump master plan.
The company had turned down Trump funding (warp speed). They are trying to say 'Pfizer knew they'd get money from selling to the US' [- well DUH!] as part of the big Trump master plan.
i knew i could count on you, Boogie. any other true believers out there gonna step up to the plate?
SamsonsRiddle
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you may be right that it does limit the amount that is passed out through your mask, BUT it also collects other airborne particles; it collects them in a certain place you don't want them to be.
one thing i've notice with masks, is that most of the air that is exhaled goes right up into your eyes (ever hear anyone complain about foggy glasses?). so you are wearing a petri dish full of who knows what from the air and from everything you touch before adjusting the mask out of your eyes or back over your nose. then you are blowing all of those things right up into your eyes and breathing them in.
there have been several scientific studies proving that the flu (i know it's not the same, but is it that much different?) was actually contracted MORE by people who wore masks in a medical situation. the one study i saw that proved people were less likely to get the flu from masks included someone properly fitting the mask on the participants.
St. Phatty
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i knew i could count on you, Boogie. any other true believers out there gonna step up to the plate?
It depends on
WHOSE HOLDING THE F'ING NEEDLE.
The basic idea - of using dead & (supposedly) weakened virus particles to create a beneficial immune response ... it's obvious that that's real.
The problem - in the US - is Adverse Event Reporting.
The American biotech industry has a terrible record in that department. In other words they literally cripple people with their "advanced technology" and then remove the records of the crippled patient from the clinical trial.
I witnessed this personally in 2000 and raised Hell. Didn't make any difference.
I would be more inclined to trust a lab in New Zealand or Canada.
But not the US.
Also, in the case of Covid19, Vitamin D and Hydroxychloroquine/Zinc have better "numbers" (as preventive / prophylactic medications & nutrients) than 90%, i.e. BETTER than the Vaccine.
Also the LONG TERM effects of Vitamin D & HCQ are extremely well known.
With the Pfizer Vaccine, it's a complete unknown, the effects 5 years out.
Funny, I don’t give a rats ass whether other people take vaccines. I have been vaccinated per CDC guidelines and get a flu shot once a year. 60 years with no adverse effects that i or my Drs are aware of. Not sure why anti-vaxers think I care.
I traveled to many areas with Small Pox, Typhoid, Yellow Fever, Hepatitis A or B, Cholera, Measles, Polio, Mumps, Whooping Cough, and others.
I took vaccinations or pills to avoid the worst.
Small Pox and Polio are gone today because of Vaccines, but anti-vaxers children and USA tourists returning home keep spreading Measles to other un-vaccinated children or adults. Some public schools do not allow un-vaccinated children to attend the school.
I am not saying there are zero problems with all vaccines, but I think any problems are small compared to the world with Small Pox and Polio and other serious diseases.
It is your choice, but others will pay the price of your failure to decide wisely, be honest.
If you were bit by a rabid dog maybe you would consider a Rabies vaccine, or would you still refuse, because you are anti-vax??
In 2016 there were 86 Measles cases in the USA in 2017 120, in 2018 349, in 2019 1282 thanks mainly to the un-vaccinated.
Routine vaccinations for young children in the United States fell during the first half of this year as more Americans skipped routine doctor visits and stayed home due to the coronavirus pandemic, according to a report published Monday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC warned that measles outbreaks could result from fewer vaccinations.
Schools have been closed and measles cases are down, but not out.
Also no increase in the number of travelers who get measles abroad and bring it into the U.S. has occurred because of Covid-19 reduced travel.
-SamS
i vote that old people, children, military, medical professionals, and teachers get the vaccine first. let's let the folks that refuse to wear a mask to protect their fellow citizens wait for a couple of years. put your money where your mouth is, ya know?
They see is as there right to spread infection. Just keep them out of the hospitals. Don’t waste resources on them.
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