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Ignignokt

All my potato leaf tomatoes suffered terribly during the heart of summer with all the heavy heat and direct sunlight. The regular ones with the more numerous and less bulky leaflets would wilt when the sunlight was hammering them, but they never got sunburn and started dying from the top down like most of my potato leaf ones did.
Based on this observation I decided that potato leaf tomato plants are the indica/WLD plants of the tomato world and regular looking tomato plants are the sativas.

You may be onto something there :)

Last year none of my tomatoes did very well at all but Brandywine was the worst, zero tomatoes.
The summer here is just too hot, i'm still learning but i realize i need to germinate them inside and plant them out much earlier.
 

PDX Dopesmoker

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You may be onto something there :)

Last year none of my tomatoes did very well at all but Brandywine was the worst, zero tomatoes.
The summer here is just too hot, i'm still learning but i realize i need to germinate them inside and plant them out much earlier.

When I lived in Tucson I grew my tomatoes under a big burlap shade because being out in the direct summer sunlight in the desert was too much for them.

I caught this bumble bee queen on my lobelias yesterday, but didn't manage to get too decent a photo of her.
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PDX Dopesmoker

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It always kinda bugs me a little when people brag about how they got "purps" when they have green buds with a few purple leaf tips and what little purple was on the flowers is long gone after its trimmed. Maybe you could honestly call the trim-run hash purple, but thats about it.
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St. Phatty

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Just put some figs in the oven at 170 F, to dry. As soon as the oven gets up to temp, I turn it off, and let the figs sit in there for an hour. Do that a few times a day for about 4 days and I have, really good dry figs.

Last year I had figs in time to take advantage of a sun drier, just shelves of stainless mesh with a cover to keep the wasps off. This year, it's already in the 70's and if I put figs in the sun, I think it would be a slow-drying low-yielding mess that in the end would be fed to the chickens.
 

PDX Dopesmoker

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Here are a couple better photos of another bumble bee queen visiting my lobelias.
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This tomato variety is called Paul Robeson and that dank 14 ounce fruit (wet weight) is from my private tomato stash.
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I OD'd on tomatoes once, ate like 5 pounds of really tasty ones and got a stomach ache from some kind of nightshade poisoning, so its a potentially dangerous plant.
 
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Ignignokt

Paul Robeson tomato seems to have great reviews.
It was one of the varieties i was considering but i didn't end up getting them....
The Bumblebee looks huge.
 

PDX Dopesmoker

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Paul Robeson tomato seems to have great reviews.
It was one of the varieties i was considering but i didn't end up getting them....
The Bumblebee looks huge.

I'm saving some seeds from the Paul Robeson for next summer and I'm thinking about trying to learn to breed tomatoes. Paul was probably my best one this summer, Old German was pretty good too. If I'm gonna grow tomatoes and its not too much more effort, it seems like in the long run going to the trouble of making and growing out your own tomato crosses (or however it works) could end up making the whole exercise a lot more amusing than just growing out familiar commercial types every year.
 
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Ignignokt

I'm saving some seeds from the Paul Robeson for next summer and I'm thinking about trying to learn to breed tomatoes. Paul was probably my best one this summer, Old German was pretty good too. If I'm gonna grow tomatoes and its not too much more effort, it seems like in the long run going to the trouble of making and growing out your own tomato crosses (or however it works) could end up making the whole exercise a lot more amusing than just growing out familiar commercial types every year.

It is a little more finicky than herb but nothing too extreme.
I have only tried once but it was too hot and the emasculated flowers i tried to pollinate just fell off, i'm going to try again this year.
There are some easy to follow guides on youtube.
 

rod58

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man , i just love this time of year ..spring is springing !
the vege garden has produced all we can eat throughout summer and autumn and now i'm in the throes of spring planting .
this area sits on 11 metres of pure sand dune , very alkaline as well . i know the depth as i drilled a bore , best thing is that i have bountiful fresh water ..
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rod58

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sorry about the above . i deleted a few pics from my albums and they disappear here as well ..
anyway , ..my ground here , can't call it soil as its not , is very deep beach sand , an old sand dune !
its gutless ! if i don't water twice a day in summer then it dries completely to a depth of 5-6 inches .. also its extremely hydrophobic ..so every 2 or 3 years i clay it and it sort of makes it soil !
10 years i've gardened this patch and trailer load after trailer load i've put into this ..kelp , cow manure , sheep manure , chook shit , pea hay , etc etc etc ..tonnes of it ! top pic is showing my compost piles which i now do in situ .
but i do ok ..i grow more than enough for ourselves , plus half the town , plus my large worm farm .. oh for some deep fertile loam !
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Ignignokt

I just tried cross pollinating some tomatoes for the second time.... the first time failed, hopefully it should work. :)

I took pollen from Cherokee Chocolate and put it on some Opalka, two different shaped fruits so i can be certain if the cross was successful, once i plant them next season.
I'm pretty happy. :whee:
 

Ichabod Crane

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My 2 greens beds filled with left over coco coir from my grow. Each bed is 4'X8'. They have Kale , Chard, Mustard Greens, Basil,and Parsley.

 
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Ignignokt

This is Black Beauty tomato, i haven't tasted them yet but i think they take a while to ripen and should get even darker, but bright red inside :)

I will have some different varieties ripening soon. :ying:

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rod58

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nice looking tomato ignignokit. almost impossible to get tomatoes to maturity here because of fusarium wilt ..
the weather is warming up ever so slightly and things are just taking off , corn especially !
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Ignignokt

This was my first little harvest of a few different types of tomatoes this year.
(I got some of the best tomatoes eaten from the inside by grubs. :frown: )

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I have some more varieties and some peppers too, i will share my taste test results one day. :whee:

Thanks Rod, have you had a look at Tomatofest?
They have a few varieties that are dwarf indeterminate and supposed to vigorous and set heavy, early fruit with better taste than most of the fast fruiting determinate varieties.
I'm hoping to try some soon.
 

rod58

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i haven't tried tomatofest ignignokt but here we have diggers seeds which grow and sell heirloom seeds online and mail order . i've tried many varieties which are supposedly wilt resistant but to no avail . i'm afraid the whole area is affected .
my tomatoes here are slowly , one by one succumbing to it .
i'm very envious of your tomatoes and hope that when we move that we can begin growing them again , nothing like eating one straight out of the garden !
 
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