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GenghisKush

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i guarantee almost next to nothing i've posted in here is fake

"I guarantee almost next to none of the shadows projected onto the wall of my cave are fake!"

get a grip

there are countless examples, posted by the soldiers themselves, of wearing palestinian women's undergarments, and playing on children's toys after they've raided palestinian homes... literal historical hallmarks of fascists and genociders.

Where are you getting this idea that these things you describe are "literal historical hallmarks of fascists and genociders"?

You know what is a hallmark genocide? Death. Lots of death. And I mean, a lot of people, dead.

50,000 is a large number, and the fact that so many are dead is deeply tragic. And yet the number of Gazans who are alive today is greater than were alive on October 7, 2023. 76 years of genocide, you say? In that time in Gaza and the West Bank the number of living Palestinians has quadrupled.

These are not hallmarks of genocide. However, I understand that you have been scandalized by seeing tiktoks of soldiers dancing in women's underwear. I offer you my condolence in these trying times.

What you observe on your screen is not, in fact, reality and you grossly overestimate your capacity to identify and correct whatever biases are imbued in what is shown to you.
 

GenghisKush

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this youtube channel is wild

This one is amazing. "The west... infantilizes youth" is a hell of a thing to say.



Cannavore, you'll love this one.



"It's genocide. And it wouldn't be fair to do anything to try to stop it."



I glanced at the guy's twitter and... he's a Nazi. I'm afraid of what I'd see on his telegram, so I'll skip it.
 
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moose eater

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All of which is apologist bullshit, especially considering that the only way a body is counted is after a complete identification, and the estimates of the actual dead reach well over 300,000 at this point.

There's some bullshit in this thread, alright, but it ain't what Cannavore has been posting.

And the Rome Statute has already been demonstrated at least 5 times (just by my own posting of it) to show that the definition of 'genocide' being used by the apologists (and the ignorant alike) is far from the working definition used by the IC/ICJ.

The ignorant at least have a fucking reason.
 

Cannavore

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this youtube channel is wild



Cannavore, you'll love this one.



This one is amazing.

"It's genocide. And it wouldn't be fair to do anything to try to stop it."


my dude do you know how algorithms work lol. i watch chomsky videos plus videos on israel/palestine and that popped up. never seen this specific channel's videos before. can you ever address the content? this is basically ad hominem.
 

Cannavore

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"I guarantee almost next to none of the shadows projected onto the wall of my cave are fake!"

get a grip
most of the stuff are either raw footage of the destruction by the hands of israel or posts from journalists or academics. very rarely if at all am i just posting some random person's thoughts or opinions.

Where are you getting this idea that these things you describe are "literal historical hallmarks of fascists and genociders"?
research prior genocides. rwanda, yugoslavia, the nazis. the victims were looted of their posessions, clothing, entire homes, etc as either trophies, acts of humiliation/dehumanization, cultural erasure, etc. we now live in the tiktok and telegram era where there are like i said countless videos and pictures of israeli soldiers doing exactly this kind of shit. that isn't to say there isn't photographs of the nazis of doing it either. i just don't feel like scouring the holocaust databases for a picture to further prove my point.

You know what is a hallmark genocide? Death. Lots of death. And I mean, a lot of people, dead.
50,000 is a large number, and the fact that so many are dead is deeply tragic. And yet the number of Gazans who are alive today is greater than were alive on October 7, 2023. 76 years of genocide, you say? In that time in Gaza and the West Bank the number of living Palestinians has quadrupled.
These are not hallmarks of genocide. However, I understand that you have been scandalized by seeing tiktoks of soldiers dancing in women's underwear. I offer you my condolence in these trying times.

"Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Adopted by Resolution 260 (III) A of the United Nations General Assembly on 9 December 1948
Entry into force: 12 January 1951

Article I

The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.


Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


Article III

The following acts shall be punishable:
(a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
(d) Attempt to commit genocide;
(e) Complicity in genocide."
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Israel & the US are guilty of A, B, C, D, & E of Article 2 of the Genocide Conventions brother. What are you even defending at this point?


What you observe on your screen is not, in fact, reality and you grossly overestimate your capacity to identify and correct whatever biases are imbued in what is shown to you.
I guess we'll let the International Criminal Courts decide lol.
 

Cannavore

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Where are we on this??

Did Hamas do what Israel told them to do, or Israel false flagged October 7th?
ummm last i heard;

netanyahu's chief of staff tried to blackmail a top idf officer to alter the records of october 7th. haaretz reported on it, and now the israeli government is talking about shutting haaretz down.
 

Cannavore

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there are many questions that independent investigators should have answers for but israel doesn't allow anyone to do this. just gotta take their word for it i guess :ROFLMAO:
 

Cannavore

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people have posted the protocols, and other random 1900's anti semitic documents in this thread yet somehow im the target lol
 

GenghisKush

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people have posted the protocols, and other random 1900's anti semitic documents in this thread yet somehow im the target lol

Be a man.

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my dude do you know how algorithms work lol. i watch chomsky videos plus videos on israel/palestine and that popped up. never seen this specific channel's videos before. can you ever address the content? this is basically ad hominem.

yeah i know how algorithms work, which is why i don't hand over my reason and discernment to a thing over which I have so little control.

i want to try to understand, as reliably as i can, whatever biases what i'm reading and - especially - what i'm viewing might posses.

what i don't do is allow my mind to flow gently downstream propelled by whatever currents there may be. i put forth effort to avoid obvious bullshit rather than allow myself to be taken in by every lie.

i'd probably ignore you completely if you didn't purport to be an anti-racist.
 
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GenghisKush

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research prior genocides. rwanda, yugoslavia, the nazis. the victims were looted of their posessions, clothing, entire homes, etc as either trophies, acts of humiliation/dehumanization, cultural erasure, etc. we now live in the tiktok and telegram era where there are like i said countless videos and pictures of israeli soldiers doing exactly this kind of shit. that isn't to say there isn't photographs of the nazis of doing it either. i just don't feel like scouring the holocaust databases for a picture to further prove my point.

This is so cowardly I don't know where to begin.
 

Cannavore

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posting/reposting something like that isn't an endorsement of everything they've done prior lol it was a repost of an old chomsky interview... let me know the timestamp in the video i posted where chomsky starts talking about child brides. i seemed to have missed that.
 

Cannavore

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i for one think it's good radical religious muslims are listening to chomsky more than they are hitler like you seem to think
 

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