War

[h.h.]

The "ignore button" patch is going to be the icmag equivalent of the CERN colider, lol Its going to split the site into two different realities Some members will exist in one, and some in another, both at the same time and on the same threads but unaware of each other, lol!! Newbies and mods etc will be like interdimensional beings, able to traverse both sets of realities. Some of their posts will be like crop circles, referencing coded information the another reality/dimension, lool

It depends how it’s used. I don’t ignore everybody I don’t agree with. I’m not here for like minded collaboration. It’s a learning experience believe it or not. I like doing the research to back up the claims. It does get repetitive. The same disproven claims over and over, now including a large dose of Russian disinformation. Denial of documented pictorial facts. When they start telling alternate stories of the holocaust denying historical facts, it’s time to block them. Not worth the effort to deal with them.

 

[Cannavore]

 

[flylowgethigh]

The thread is about war, not snowflake liberals supporting a dimented loser who rode in on a stolen election, and who is now putting US troops in Ukraine to fight.

https://beckernews.com/biden-tells-...ure-there-44502/?utm_source=BN&utm_medium=PTN

 

[Montuno]

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The thread is about war, not snowflake liberals supporting a dimented loser who rode in on a stolen election, and who is now putting US troops in Ukraine to fight.

Dice el otro. Y tiene toda la razón.
Ya habeis oído, liberales (yo como soy marxista, ni me doy por enterado), nada de hablar de nada que no sea la guerra... A no ser que tratéis el apasionante tema de como millones de personas (bebés, niños, adultos, ancianos) se pusieron de acuerdo (pese a sus diferentes nacionalidades, etnias, religiones, tendencias sexuales e ideología política) en un macabro plan con la que manchar el impoluto nombre del Nacionalsocialismo, de Hitler y del III Reitch; a saber : dejarse morir todos juntos (trabajando semidesnudos en el páramo de nieve y hielo del invierno centroeuropeo, negándose a comer, interceptando suicidamente con sus cráneos balas perdidas, electrificado las alambradas para poder arrojarse a ellas, practicando figuración canina semidesnudos ante pastores alemanes y dobermans de defensa/ataque militar...o, no os lo vais a creer!: encerrándose en masa por dentro, en las gigantescas cámaras de gas que usamos para desparasitar la gran colección de ropa de todo tipo que tan gentilmente el III Reitch pone a su disposición ) en nuestros acogedores Campos de Internamiento, para hacerlos pasar por Campos de Concentración, Trabajos Forzados, Torturas, y finalmente, de Exterminio.


Says the other.

And he is absolutely right.

You already have heard, liberals (as I am a Marxist, I don't even notice), no talk of anything but war.... Unless you deal with the exciting subject of how millions of people (babies, children, adults, old people) agreed (despite their different nationalities, ethnicities, religions, sexual tendencies and political ideology) on a macabre plan with which to stain the pristine name of National Socialism, Hitler and the III Reitch; namely : to let themselves die all together (working half-naked in the snowy and icy wasteland of the Central European winter, refusing to eat, suicidally intercepting stray bullets with their skulls, electrifying the barbed wire fences in order to throw themselves into them, practicing canine figuration half-naked before military defense/attack dobermans or German Sepherer... Or, you won't believe it !!: blocking themselves up en masse inside, in the gigantic gas chambers that we use to deworm the great collection of clothing of all kinds that the III Reitch so kindly puts at their disposal in our cozy Internment Camps ), to make them go through Concentration, Forced Labor, Torture, and finally, Extermination Camps.

 

[h.h.]

War. Like the one putin is waging against Ukraine. Nothing to do with snowflakes nor with so claimed stolen elections. I guess the only way to get attention to those lost causes is to interject them into every other thread. Supported with some none facts of course. Next it will be hunters stolen laptop.

 

[Montuno]

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I know many people died in german camps from disease and starvation as a consequence of Allied bombing of supply routes, but the claim of a deliberate policy of extermination - that they ran death camps as opposed to work camps, I consider this to be atrocity propaganda

Me neither buddy, and it is good atrocity propaganda: lampshades and soap etc. Revisionism, Nazism and national socialism are not the same things even if you want them to be. Furthermore what you call me do not change the fact that you are a supporter of Nazi Ukraine, original Nazi banderas of Hollywood.

Banderites where among those who died in german camps by the way. As for starvation it will soon be a consequence of this war and sanctions. But none of that matters anymore. Only thing that matter now is that Putin is bad so more weapons need be given to Nazi Ukraine because Nazis are good, russians bad.

That is the state of your anti-fascism today: all out sympathetic support of Nazi Ukraine.
Sadly no old photo from Mauthausen will change this fact.

Y si me quieres escribir...
ya sabes mi paradero:
Tercera Brigada Mixta,
primera línea de fuego.

Los fascistas que trajo Franco
en Madrid quieren entrar:
mientras quede un miliciano
los fascistas no pasarán.

Y si me quieres escribir
ya sabes mi paradero:
en el frente de batalla,
primera línea de fuego...

Aunque me tiren el puente
y también la pasarela,
me verás pasar el Ebro
en un barquito de vela.

Diez mil veces que lo tiren,
diez mil veces que lo haremos :
tenemos cabeza dura
los del cuerpo de ingenieros...
​​​
Diez mil veces que lo tiren,
diez mil veces que lo haremos.
Que tambien estamos las mujeres,
aquí estamos, compañeros !

En el Ebro se han hundido
las banderas franquistas, alemanas e italianas,
y en los puentes sólo quedan
las que son republicanas.

Y si me quieres escribir
ya sabes mi paradero:
en el frente de batalla,
primera línea de fuego.

Si tú quieres comer bien,
barato y de buena forma ? :
en el frente de batalla,
allí tienen una fonda.

En la entrada de la fonda
esta el moro Mohamed,
que te dice: ”Pasa, pasa,
¿qué quieres para comer?”

El primer plato que dan
son granadas moledoras;
el segundo de metralla
para refrescar memorias.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jQK_LbLjjbw

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WubToRFKcdY

. Díselo tú, compañera Marta, que tú se lo dices con más gracia y salero:

Y si me quieres escribir
ya sabes mi paradero:
en el frente de batalla,
primera línea de fuego.

Si tú quieres comer bien,
barato y de buena forma ? :
en el frente de batalla,
allí tienen una fonda.

En la entrada de la fonda
esta el moro Mohamed,
que te dice: ”Pasa, pasa,
¿qué quieres para comer?”

"...Y el primer plato que dan son granadas moledoras;
el segundo de metralla
para recordar memorias." :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1DItOClINb4

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tVMDp6YxW4I

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¿ Quien quiere comer en esta fonda ? Tengo 2 platos...

 

[Montuno]

And the rest of you, keep on ignoring, or looking the other way, when the fascist black cock starts to crow....

"Cuando canta el Gallo Negro...
...es que ha llegado el día de..."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k7KmM8cwiZM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ZCanVRFZQ
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBo6qBAkCjk

 

[Microbeman]

"..yOuTuBe.."
"..RuSsEll BrAnD.."..."..cOnSpIrAcY tHeOrY.."
"..bUt, hE's GoT a BeArD.."..."..wHaT aRe ThE sOuRcEs.."
"..LiNks To tHe sOuRcEs.."

you call that a beard?

 

[Cannavore]

And the rest of you, keep on ignoring, or looking the other way, when the fascist black cock starts to crow....



"Cuando canta el Gallo Negro...
...es que ha llegado el día de..."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k7KmM8cwiZM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ZCanVRFZQ
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBo6qBAkCjk

anders brevik was another believer in the nazi conspiracy theory of cultural marxism just like much of the american far right, and famous idiots like jordan peterson.

 

[ButterflyEffect]

I understand.
It was what Microbeman said that peaked my interest. I wouldn’t believe his intent was to divert. Just part of the whole conversation and learning experience.
It was a concept that I never quite grasped. I worked with an Israeli architect one time. She was also a curator for the historic museum in Jerusalem. Very Jewish, yet an atheist. She kind of explained it, but it still left questions. It’s just a clarification.
I think the destruction comes from the many questions based on false premises asked over and over, trying to direct the conversation into an absurd twisting of words. Claims of nazis hiding under every bed while repeating Putin’s excuses and lies. There’s page after page of that crap. Disproven over and over. The main goal perhaps is to get you to violate the TOU giving them a free reign to spread their ideology of disruption and destruction.
Once again, I’m drifting off of the subject , so with all due respect…

That, my friend, is why we have as much fun with them right up to the limit of being dinged by the mods. I think it's fair to say that we've been given some latitude here, so that's refreshing to know.
That's not surprising about the Israeli woman. There's so much gray and intersectionality out there.

I don't believe the Microbe was doing anything in bad faith, btw.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Greetings of the people of Mariupol for the entrance of the Azov batallion in 2014.

 

[Montuno]

anders brevik was another believer in the nazi conspiracy theory of cultural marxism just like much of the american far right, and famous idiots like jordan peterson.

Anders Brevik murderer 77 people.
This black rooster filled time by reproducing the songs of other black roosters...

 

[mexcurandero420]

Wonderful country Ukraine under martial law.

 

[h.h.]

Wonderful country Ukraine under martial law.

More bullshit. Twitter tells you what to think?

 

[entropical]

anders brevik was another believer in the nazi conspiracy theory of cultural marxism just like much of the american far right, and famous idiots like jordan peterson.

Cultural marxism is a Nazi conspiracy, Breivik was a Freemason and odds are that Jordan Peterson has a higher IQ than you.

 

[mexcurandero420]

More bullshit. Twitter tells you what to think?

See the sign on the car.Common practice over there.Dont you see on the news, pretty confronting for the mass hypnosis.

 

[entropical]

Wonderful country Ukraine under martial law.

iT’s A dEmOcRaCy!

 

[buzzmobile]

"..yOuTuBe.."
"..RuSsEll BrAnD.."..."..cOnSpIrAcY tHeOrY.."
"..bUt, hE's GoT a BeArD.."..."..wHaT aRe ThE sOuRcEs.."
"..LiNks To tHe sOuRcEs.."

 

[entropical]

Greetings of the people of Mariupol for the entrance of the Azov batallion in 2014.

Did you see the documentary of the genocide in Donbass that same year? Just the other day there was missile attack against Donetsk using cluster munitions. Apparently they tried to lure as many people to the city centre as possible through a social media psy-op. The missile was intercepted and would have killed even more people. Complete media black out in the west and this is of course why RT and Sputnik are banned by these very people speak of the freedom of the press.

 

[Montuno]

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Oleksii Otkydach explica por qué en vídeos de soldados defendiendo Kiev se les puede oír gritando 'Allahu Akbar': "No hay que sorprenderse, son chechenos que defienden la independencia de Chechena y luchan por Ucrania".

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...sQFnoECDgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0bSvdf4R3imKe2zibuvmzi

Oleksii Otkydach explains why in videos of soldiers defending Kiev they can be heard shouting 'Allahu Akbar': "No need to be surprised, they are Chechens defending the independence of Chechnya and fighting for Ukraine."
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#sextaClaveEspecial en directo:

http://atres.red/znoqa10791


11:02 p. m. · 22 mar. 2022·Besocy_Oficial

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]If someone tells you CHECHENIA, what is the first word you think of?
WAR?

Yes me too.
In this region, it is inevitable to talk about conflicts, fights and resistance.
But it is not only about that.

Chechnya, part 1:
THE BEARDS, SHAMIL AND THE FIGHT. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]1) The public is renewed (and others leave), so we start with something that several already know.

Chechnya is one of the many republics that make up Russia.
In other words: they are not Russians by nationality, but they are by citizenship.
They are Chechens.

And as such, they have some peculiarities. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]2) Of all the Russian cities I visited, in none did I feel so out of Russia as in Chechnya.
That starts, of course, from a perception: we think that all of Russia is like Moscow and Saint Petersburg and it is not.

Chechnya is completely different.
Starting with the people. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]3) Women: 'mainstream Russian' features (blondes, light eyes) with soft-Islamic dress: loose dresses, scarves or hijabs covering the hair.

At first, for me, it was very crazy: one does not associate Islam with "Russian faces".
But again, it's all about perception. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]4) Men: very easy to identify them, in Chechnya and anywhere in the world.
Always strong and corpulent, often clear eyes and mainly, a beard without a mustache.

The way of shaving defines a Chechen man, in 80% of cases. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]5) I said "in Chechnya and anywhere in the world."

Yes, because during World War II, Stalin carried out a massive forced deportation of Chechens.
They were sent to Siberia, Central Asia...
And over time, many families ended up staying there. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]6) An anecdote:
In Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, one night we saw a group of bearded men (without a mustache) arguing very strongly with the Police.
Then we crossed them again.
"What happened?" we ask.
"Nothing, it's our hobby on Tuesdays: going out to provoke cops."

They were Chechens, of course. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]7) The story -whether they lied or not- is plausible.
The Chechens have a reputation for being tremendous fighters: rough, very tough.

They say that in the Middle East - no babies at all - when one of the sides in the conflict wants to scare the other, it says:
"The Chechens are coming." [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]8) Is this fame real or not?

Before answering this, I want to go back to a previous topic: the beard.
For Islam, the hygiene of the body, its cleanliness and purity, is paramount. But, as in all religions, there are different interpretations and opinions on the matter... [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]9) A friend told me: "Chechens shave their mustaches so as not to stain the food they put in their mouths with impurities."

How real is it? I've been reading a lot and I can't be 100% sure: whoever wants to contribute more about the fitra, Islam and the beard will read it carefully. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]10) Now yes, we go with the Chechen reputation of being ruthless warriors.

Is it so? It is so.
Example in sports: all the men I met in Grozny told me that they practiced martial arts or contact sports.
Boxing, MMA, sambo, jiu-jitsu.

Fight, fight, fight. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]11) Ramzan Kadyrov, in fact, is the president of Chechnya and at the same time the founder and owner of a major MMA team - Akhmat Fight Club.

In 2016, when he turned 40, he celebrated with a wrestling event: his three children (8, 9 and 11 years old) entered the ring to fight. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]12) We'll deal with Kadyrov later (it's all so complex...)

But now, to start closing this first Chechen installment, let's go back to the opening word, sadly omnipresent.
War.

Why do we so easily associate Chechnya with war? [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]13) To begin with, the Chechen territory is in the Caucasus, an area that has historically been the scene of war.

When the Mongols left, the Cossacks arrived. And throughout the 18th and 19th centuries, Russians, Turks, and Persians fought over and over again for regional control. [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]14) With so many struggles over the centuries, the Chechens developed their irredeemable character.

But not only the defense of their lands moved them: it was also religion.
Deeply Islamic, they saw how the threatening Christian Russia of the Tsar was closing in on them... [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]15) The key character of the Chechen (and Dagestan) resistance was called Shamil, Imam Shamil.

He led the resistance of the Muslim Caucasus to Russian power for more than 30 years, until he fell in 1859.
But think... 30 years against Russia!
And with an Army of guerrillas! [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]16) From Imam Shamil onwards, the Russians always knew that the Caucasus is a very troubled region and resistance can be fierce.

And it is so, due to the magic of the Internet and networks (?), that in a second we go forward 130 years: now we are in 1991... [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]17) The Berlin Wall falls, the USSR ends; 15 Soviet republics become independent: Armenia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan...
Russia is too weak, as never before since the German invasion. Hands tied in the Balkan war.

And dormant nationalisms resurface... [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]18) The Chechens, as we have already said, are too different from the Muscovites. And then many of them ask themselves: "And why not?".

We are now in 1994, Russia is still in chaos
AND the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria declares its independence.

WTF? Republic of Ichkeria? [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]19) Well, no, 19 tweets is already a lot. We stop here.

-Ah no, anyone, right now? At the climax?

-And well, old man, we have to keep the audience captive...

See you in the next Chechen chapter: ICHKERIA AND THE WAR.

How exciting is Russia! [/COLOR]



[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.84)]And a clarification: as always, these threads are just triggers. There is so much more to tell: the Caucasus, Shamil, Islam, Christianity...

And if I'm wrong about something, let me know: it's always worth learning.
(And closes with a photo of him in Chechnya)


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1194723350230249473.html