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coffe filter and blender? Looks yummy!
mellow yellow
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All that hash looks lovely gonna get some filters 
Got a question for you guys, i flower under a 250 watt hps, My last crop was short by a oz or so. Due to heat issues, i just got a red 250 watt cfl and have put that in aswell. Do you think this will make any difference?
Got a question for you guys, i flower under a 250 watt hps, My last crop was short by a oz or so. Due to heat issues, i just got a red 250 watt cfl and have put that in aswell. Do you think this will make any difference?
That stuff looks good enough to smoke, gabjaz!
Good job m8.
Good job m8.
what do you think this is?
what do you think this is?
Hey guys, question... I'm 17 days into flower and starting to wonder about this... at first I thought it was just fan leaves dropping, now I think not.
Background... FF Happy Frog soil, tap water after sitting a day and ph'ed. Jack's classic nutes. A bit of molasses every 3rd watering or so.
Symptoms... mostly just on large fan leaves, only the bottom ones. When first noticed right about the time I flipped them, I didn't see much of these spots really, but the leaves would just fall off the main stalk if you just barely touched them. I mean, just bend them a hair and they'd pop off. I thought the plants where just dropping extra un-needed vegetation as they went into the "fall season". If this is something that gets worse I don't want to loose a crop if i can do something to slow or correct it now.
I looked through the threads on nutes, it sort of looks like a pic showing Boron deficency. Ive not had this problem with this soil and this strain. Actually, it's happening with both strains I have at the moment, a diesel and a bagseed purple indica. Everything above about the bottom 2 nodes looks normal to me. I can try to get a pic of them out of the HPS light if it helps.
It's hard to check runoff PH with my setup but I may have to figure a way.
Suggestions?
what do you think this is?
Hey guys, question... I'm 17 days into flower and starting to wonder about this... at first I thought it was just fan leaves dropping, now I think not.
Background... FF Happy Frog soil, tap water after sitting a day and ph'ed. Jack's classic nutes. A bit of molasses every 3rd watering or so.
Symptoms... mostly just on large fan leaves, only the bottom ones. When first noticed right about the time I flipped them, I didn't see much of these spots really, but the leaves would just fall off the main stalk if you just barely touched them. I mean, just bend them a hair and they'd pop off. I thought the plants where just dropping extra un-needed vegetation as they went into the "fall season". If this is something that gets worse I don't want to loose a crop if i can do something to slow or correct it now.
I looked through the threads on nutes, it sort of looks like a pic showing Boron deficency. Ive not had this problem with this soil and this strain. Actually, it's happening with both strains I have at the moment, a diesel and a bagseed purple indica. Everything above about the bottom 2 nodes looks normal to me. I can try to get a pic of them out of the HPS light if it helps.
It's hard to check runoff PH with my setup but I may have to figure a way.
Suggestions?
All that hash looks lovely gonna get some filters
Got a question for you guys, i flower under a 250 watt hps, My last crop was short by a oz or so. Due to heat issues, i just got a red 250 watt cfl and have put that in aswell. Do you think this will make any difference?
It should make some but not a tremendous amount being a cfl it just doesn't have the intensity to cause big changes. I presume when you say red you mean one that has a color temperature in the red spectrum? If so then that would be well suited for use in flower. I would try to place it to the best advantage to get whatever areas the HPS isn't getting well. Your problem already has been heat though, even before this new cfl. Even though it's a cfl it's still going to be adding heat which will add to your heat problem.
Hey guys, question... I'm 17 days into flower and starting to wonder about this... at first I thought it was just fan leaves dropping, now I think not.
Background... FF Happy Frog soil, tap water after sitting a day and ph'ed. Jack's classic nutes. A bit of molasses every 3rd watering or so.
Symptoms... mostly just on large fan leaves, only the bottom ones. When first noticed right about the time I flipped them, I didn't see much of these spots really, but the leaves would just fall off the main stalk if you just barely touched them. I mean, just bend them a hair and they'd pop off. I thought the plants where just dropping extra un-needed vegetation as they went into the "fall season". If this is something that gets worse I don't want to loose a crop if i can do something to slow or correct it now.
I looked through the threads on nutes, it sort of looks like a pic showing Boron deficency. Ive not had this problem with this soil and this strain. Actually, it's happening with both strains I have at the moment, a diesel and a bagseed purple indica. Everything above about the bottom 2 nodes looks normal to me. I can try to get a pic of them out of the HPS light if it helps.
It's hard to check runoff PH with my setup but I may have to figure a way.
Suggestions?
So you're saying most of the plant looks healthy? How many nodes are there and how tall are the plants? How many are you growing and under what light? Sort of looks like to me what you get when plants are too crowded and lower leaves aren't getting good light and the air circulation is reduced. When conditions get like that for a leaf it gets to a point where the leaf uses more resources then it contributes and so the plant lets it die off.
Too funny! Hey HK, have you been peeking at my grow?
Yes, everything above about the 2nd node or very bottom looks normal and healthy. 400 HPS in a home made cooltube (made with a pyrex bake-a-round) and a couple of 2700k cfl's in the corners. When I go see them late in the light cycle (lights on at night) the temp is usually 74-78 degrees. 2 plants in one tub, 4 in the other. I forget the size but they are rubbermaid boxes, it takes a bit over 3 cu ft to fill one.
Yes, the lower leaves aren't getting much light, yes they got a little more crowded that my last ones so air isn't circulating as well as in the past. I have 2 pc fans (120mm forget the cfm) blowing in, one drawing out through the cooltube.
When I hang out with them, I often think they might be more productive if I could get a cfl or two down lower but I don't see a practical way to do it without them being too close to growth. Sort of self-defeating.
As for how many nodes or how high, maybe this pic helps if you can visualize the scale.
There are two, and in the cab they are 'snug'. If what you described in last sentence is the problem, then its probably no harm, that zone just produces tiny popcorn. Not that its not useful.
Your suspicion pretty much described my situation... dude, many thanks!
Too funny! Hey HK, have you been peeking at my grow?
Yes, everything above about the 2nd node or very bottom looks normal and healthy. 400 HPS in a home made cooltube (made with a pyrex bake-a-round) and a couple of 2700k cfl's in the corners. When I go see them late in the light cycle (lights on at night) the temp is usually 74-78 degrees. 2 plants in one tub, 4 in the other. I forget the size but they are rubbermaid boxes, it takes a bit over 3 cu ft to fill one.
Yes, the lower leaves aren't getting much light, yes they got a little more crowded that my last ones so air isn't circulating as well as in the past. I have 2 pc fans (120mm forget the cfm) blowing in, one drawing out through the cooltube.
When I hang out with them, I often think they might be more productive if I could get a cfl or two down lower but I don't see a practical way to do it without them being too close to growth. Sort of self-defeating.
As for how many nodes or how high, maybe this pic helps if you can visualize the scale.This was just before flowering, so they stretched a few inches more. Should I take a new pic?
There are two, and in the cab they are 'snug'. If what you described in last sentence is the problem, then its probably no harm, that zone just produces tiny popcorn. Not that its not useful.
Your suspicion pretty much described my situation... dude, many thanks!
Well one way to solve your problem and be able to get some light to the lower areas would be to take them out of the tubs, I don't see where the tubs are helping any. In fact now I'm more convinced then ever bad air circulation and lack of light is the problem because the tubs would make those conditions more true.
mellow yellow
Member
Hempkat you got exactly!!!, my last grow i put 4 plants in. Normally i do 2 and get about 4oz total. I only got about 3.5 oz from the 4 and got lot smaller buds. So i am back to 2 this time but my local shop said a 400 watt hps would be too hot for my tent so i got the cfl to light up the plant not right under my 250 watt hps. Heat will be more of a issue as we move into summer (i`m hoping i`m in the UK ). My current ideas are to put a bowl of ice infront to the fan putting air in the tent or maybe some sort of cooling pad in the tent ? What would you suggest?
). My current ideas are to put a bowl of ice infront to the fan putting air in the tent or maybe some sort of cooling pad in the tent ? What would you suggest?
tennesseetoker
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whatsup hempkat its been awhile but i'll get to the point do you know when the best time to start growin outside may be? I live in tennessee if that helps just knew to it outside had a couple good indoor grows and was wantin to try my luck outdoors. Just lookin i guess for whatever advice you can give me. -thanks
So, do you think maybe 3 gal bags or pots would be better? I considered that thinking the plants would be easier to move/rotate. I suppose I thought it might not matter much as once you get to soil level airflow wouldn't really matter.
Hempkat you got exactly!!!, my last grow i put 4 plants in. Normally i do 2 and get about 4oz total. I only got about 3.5 oz from the 4 and got lot smaller buds. So i am back to 2 this time but my local shop said a 400 watt hps would be too hot for my tent so i got the cfl to light up the plant not right under my 250 watt hps. Heat will be more of a issue as we move into summer (i`m hoping i`m in the UK
Well if one must grow indoors during the summer then unless you live where the summers are very mild you need AC.
What I really recommend if one can manage it is to grow a bit bigger in their setup so they can do enough medium sized bushes to carry them for several months so they can take a break for the summer. It's much easier on the wallet, it's easier on the plants and it gives you the freedom to go do stuff away from your grow without worrying about it. Ultimately a time comes where every grower needs a break from the responsibility of growing.
Really anywhere between now and the end of May is good. It depends though on what you're planting. If you're planting small established plants you can go more towards the end of May, if you wanted. If you're starting from seed then ASAP.
In a general sense you want to see it where the night time temps are steadily in the 50 to 60 degree F range. This is what has been difficult though because like in my area nit time temps have been dropping into the low 40's upper 30's still. You're further south then me though so you're temps are probably a little better?
Well if soil level was up to the top of the tubs then the aire flow would be find but those plants looked to be several inches down in the tub before they hit soil. Bags or pots are fine, whichever you're more comfortable with. Also it's generally considered a bad idea to co-mingle multiple plants in the same container, if one develops a problem it's more likely the others will develop the same problem. Even if you have no outside problems the rrots will be competingstrongly for resources. Of course there's also the more obvious things like being able to move the plants or rotate them. Also it's easier to judge when one plant needs water rather then several plants in the same container.
Spiritchild
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My first effort to buy seeds was cash sent to Canada, seeds sent, then confiscated by Uncle Sam. My second effort was a money order sent to UK. It has been 30 days, they are still "awaiting payment". Would I be crazy to use my debit card - if I do it must be sent to my home/garden? Is my luck normal or not?
mellow yellow
Member
Thanks, I`ll see how it goes last year was cold and I have no issues, I`ll look into the air con as well.
Think i am going to flip the lights to be on during the night rather than the day, so i assume i leave them in the dark for a day then start the new light time?
Think i am going to flip the lights to be on during the night rather than the day, so i assume i leave them in the dark for a day then start the new light time?
I can't afford to have trees for my outdoor plants, so I wait until late in the season to put mine out. I will prepare plants by vegging, training, etc..just like I would for an indoor run, but they will go out for flower on or about the first weekend in August. If they are just coming off of veg, they will flower and finish in line with what the breeder suggests for a full on outdoor harvest, they just won't be massive outdoor behemoths. Mine usually finish a bit bigger than they would in my cab though...a good bit bigger, but they are easily manageable and easy to hide in plane sight with the right training.
If you do them late in the ground, I suggest preparing the holes with your regular mix and in about double the amount you normally have your indoor in. Containers always are great for late season grows, but use very large ones...bigger than you anticipate it needing just for the watering aspect.
This is a shot of a my secret garden put out Aug 6.
Late grow in the corn...(BBibl)
MF&F13
The soil level is about 2 inches below the rim. I can see the advantages of one pot/one plant. My thinking in doing this was that I could maximize the amount of soil in a 3X4 ft cab. Advantages and disadvantages to both I suppose. As for competing for resources, I've thought that as long as they weren't deprived of any, then no harm. I let the soil dry several inches down, then water throughly from the top and from the bottom. In theory, I would think that should keep them from competing, not like out in nature where its survival of the fittest.
Any flaws in my logic?
The more I do this, the more I think it would be fun and interesting to do little experiments. Like, identical strains and care in different pots. Shorter LST'ed buds vs taller colas and see the effects on strength. I just don't have the space or resources at this time. The whole game may change in Nov with the legalization initiative here.
