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[rosskemp]

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hello!
plants are 5weeks in the veeg! yesterday transplanted to final 6l pots! Can i flower them 2days after repoting???
How long must i wait before i can go to flower mode 12/12??? Do the plants need to grow some more roots in the new 6l pots??!
(if yes, how long do i vegg?!day,two,week,two week's???)

 

[Lapplandish]

male? that hair makes me curious..

 

[Weezard]

I have a question about cloning..here goes

Im ready to take my first clones ever..I have the rooting powder (Eco Root Root Dip Gel), Scissors, rockwool cubes and 2 10 oz. cups to place the clone in for its own environment.

My question is how do I use the rooting powder? Im just a little confused..do I just mix a little powder in with some good water turning it to gel?

There is directions, but it just says to fill a container with de chlorinated water, let stand for 5 minutes stirring occasioally until it thickens ( Im just assuming that I mix in some of the powder with the water)?, then dip the clone in for 5 seconds.

can someone clarify this for me because Im a newb to cloning.

High IGT,

Looks like you could use an answer.
It's quite simple really.
Just cut,
Dip in plain water right away.
Then dip wet stem tip in the powder, it will coat the stem.
Then plop it in some water.
(The chloramine actually protects it from pathogens and fungi)

Works a treat.
Of course it also works when I just cut and drop into a beer bottle of tap water.
Cuttings WANT to root and will do so because of, and in spite of, our various gels and powders.
Keep it simple.
It's a weed.

Aloha,
Weezard

 

[HempKat]

I have a question about cloning..here goes

Im ready to take my first clones ever..I have the rooting powder (Eco Root Root Dip Gel), Scissors, rockwool cubes and 2 10 oz. cups to place the clone in for its own environment.

My question is how do I use the rooting powder? Im just a little confused..do I just mix a little powder in with some good water turning it to gel?

There is directions, but it just says to fill a container with de chlorinated water, let stand for 5 minutes stirring occasioally until it thickens ( Im just assuming that I mix in some of the powder with the water)?, then dip the clone in for 5 seconds.

can someone clarify this for me because Im a newb to cloning.

Yeah it sounds like they want you to mix it with water to make a gel but that's rather odd directions if they don't give you an amount of powder to an amount of water mixture to go by. Water won't thicken on it's own so obviously you would have to add something. Perhaps the directions are assuming you use the container the powder came in, fill that with water (with the powder in there) and then mix that into a gel? Unfortunately I'm unfamiliar with that product. The gels I've bought came as gels, I didn't have to add water. The powders I've used you just dip the cutting in the powder and if you have the patience and hand for it, poke tiny holes with a pin in the part of the stem where the powder is applied.

 

[HempKat]

hello!
plants are 5weeks in the veeg! yesterday transplanted to final 6l pots! Can i flower them 2days after repoting???
How long must i wait before i can go to flower mode 12/12??? Do the plants need to grow some more roots in the new 6l pots??!
(if yes, how long do i vegg?!day,two,week,two week's???)

It's all up to you. You could go right away if you felt the plants were well developed enough and you had a timetable to stick to. Or if you felt the plants needed to be a little taller, fill out a little more, you could veg them a couple of weeks and let the roots spread out and fill the new space. Maybe you're just concerned about transplant shock and just want to give the plant a few days to get used to it's new home? No harm in that.

Here's the thing, once you go to 12/12 you trigger flower. The first two to three weeks of that is what is known as the stretch phase, during that time the plant will do alot of vegatative like growth as will the roots but once the buds really start to form, root growth levels off. So if you go right after transplant you're probably not going to have a fully developed rootball for the size of that pot. Alot depends also on the size of the old pot compared to the size of the new pot. If for example you went from a 1l pot to a 6l then it's going to take the roots time to spread out into that, about a month typically. Another thing is during that time when the roots are spreading out you'll be watering less frequently. After 5 weeks in the old pots you were probably watering every other day which gives lots of opportunities for adding nutrients. In the new pot you might find yourself waiting as much as 5 days between waterings which severely cuts down on the opportunities to feed the plants.

Ideally when you finish stretch you want it to be where you're watering and feeding every other day. Typically people are growing 8 week strains and if stretch was 3 weeks you only got 5 weeks left and one or even two of those you might sacrifice to the ritual known as flushing where you purposely don't feed the plant any more nutrients. If you hit this limited stretch of rapid growth only needing to water once every 5 days you won't get too many opportunities to feed your plants and so they'll likely not be all they can be. If on the other hand you are needing to water every other day then that's 3.5 times per week you have to feed them.

 

[HempKat]

male? that hair makes me curious..

I can't see it clearly enough from those pics but I don't think what you're thinking is a hair, is actually a hair. There's other growth on plants that in different stages can be very deceptive looking.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Handsome lad.

You can lighten up shots using just about any photo editor, including the one that came on your machine.

 

[goneforasmoke]

Hi there I'm just about to go into wash out as my plants are swelling nicely and coming to the end,

What is the correct way to do wash out? i.e do you keep your resi water the same nute strength and then start washing out with just ph'd water with no nutes,

Or do you gradually lower nute strength and then just ph'd water?

How long do you wash out for?

 

[rosskemp]

male? that hair makes me curious..

YES THIS IS A MALE PLANT 120%!!! can clearly see the balls under the top!!!

g

 

[rosskemp]

thanks man!!!you are 100% right!

thanks man!!!you are 100% right!

It's all up to you. You could go right away if you felt the plants were well developed enough and you had a timetable to stick to. Or if you felt the plants needed to be a little taller, fill out a little more, you could veg them a couple of weeks and let the roots spread out and fill the new space. Maybe you're just concerned about transplant shock and just want to give the plant a few days to get used to it's new home? No harm in that.

Here's the thing, once you go to 12/12 you trigger flower. The first two to three weeks of that is what is known as the stretch phase, during that time the plant will do alot of vegatative like growth as will the roots but once the buds really start to form, root growth levels off. So if you go right after transplant you're probably not going to have a fully developed rootball for the size of that pot. Alot depends also on the size of the old pot compared to the size of the new pot. If for example you went from a 1l pot to a 6l then it's going to take the roots time to spread out into that, about a month typically. Another thing is during that time when the roots are spreading out you'll be watering less frequently. After 5 weeks in the old pots you were probably watering every other day which gives lots of opportunities for adding nutrients. In the new pot you might find yourself waiting as much as 5 days between waterings which severely cuts down on the opportunities to feed the plants.

Ideally when you finish stretch you want it to be where you're watering and feeding every other day. Typically people are growing 8 week strains and if stretch was 3 weeks you only got 5 weeks left and one or even two of those you might sacrifice to the ritual known as flushing where you purposely don't feed the plant any more nutrients. If you hit this limited stretch of rapid growth only needing to water once every 5 days you won't get too many opportunities to feed your plants and so they'll likely not be all they can be. If on the other hand you are needing to water every other day then that's 3.5 times per week you have to feed them.

IN MY CASE ,YOU ARE 120% RIGHT!

 

[HempKat]

Hi there I'm just about to go into wash out as my plants are swelling nicely and coming to the end,

What is the correct way to do wash out? i.e do you keep your resi water the same nute strength and then start washing out with just ph'd water with no nutes,

Or do you gradually lower nute strength and then just ph'd water?

How long do you wash out for?

Well I'm not sure how it is in a hydro application as I only grow in soil but in soil I just switch to ph'd water for Flush (wash out). Of course soil is somewhat different as it will hold some nutrients causing the nutrient levels to decrease somewhat gradually. In hydro if you just switched to water I would imagine the drop off would be much quicker.

I would imagine also that for the same reason you don't need to wash out for as long in hydro? In soil the rule of thumb is one week for organics and two weeks if you use chemically based nutrients.

 

[goneforasmoke]

I'm growing in coco and it is a chemically based nutrient used,
so with soil holding nutes and coco not holding nutes so much what would you say
i'm thinking the best thing is to give them a weeks wash out cheer hempkat
will post pics pre harvest and then once harvested, looking forward to the smoke.

3x satori
3x kali
1x bag weed (which looks very nice and sticky, and has a strong lemon smell)

 

[Scottyboycx]

i ahve a himalayan gold 5 n half weeks into flower. Since 4 weeks of flower i been losing all my fan leaves turning yellow and falling off. Up until today its been fed hydro nutes at full strenth then today i decided to flush it out in the bath. I got the plant in soil ( i run hempybuckets normally) so i took cutting then flowered it to get rid of the soil. I know fans are supposed to yellow near end of the flower period but this has been doing it since 4 week flower.....my hempys with clones from this plant stay green ;( heres a pic please help i dont wanna lose my 1st harvest (pics suck mobile phone)

 

[rosskemp]

nutes at full strenth!!!

nutes at full strenth!!!

TO MUCH NUTS!!!99%!

 

[Scottyboycx]

Hydrotops nutrients (yeah i know) at 1.4 (1400ppm) the nutes level out my tap water to 6.1 ph and the soil is just some potting soil.....i dont use soil normally ;(

before watering i leave the water in the flower room for 24 hours bubbling

airstone in soil?

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Your plant may be kept a little wet. They will do that with wet feet sometimes.
Lack of oxygen and build up of salts is usually the result.
IMO when a plant has been kept too wet, it should first be flushed with at least three times the water as the container size, and then let it DRY. Let the pot get light, dry light, before watering again, and then only just till runoff. Plants that size are about ready to flush, so no more nutes would be my suggestion.
If I do a flush for a sickly plant, I will add 30ml (1 ounce) 3% H2O2 per gal for the last gal. This will increase the oxygen content more than anything else can or will.

 

[Scottyboycx]

well like i say i dont generally use soil so maybe ur right about the watering since i'm normally stoned when i water.....i flushed just before posting, put it in bathe and ran like 100 gallons thru it lol i'll let her totally dry by watching for leaves drooping before next watering ^_^
Thanks

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Just a suggestion...lift the pot every day. Get intimate with it. Knowing when to water will become second nature.

 

[Scottyboycx]

Just a suggestion...lift the pot every day. Get intimate with it. Knowing when to water will become second nature.

not gonna do this tbh its the only plant in soil....the clones in hempybucket are much healthier/fatter stems lush green leaves.i just want it to get thru the last couple of weeks

 

[HempKat]

I'm growing in coco and it is a chemically based nutrient used,
so with soil holding nutes and coco not holding nutes so much what would you say
i'm thinking the best thing is to give them a weeks wash out cheer hempkat
will post pics pre harvest and then once harvested, looking forward to the smoke.

3x satori
3x kali
1x bag weed (which looks very nice and sticky, and has a strong lemon smell)

A week should do it I would think.