goneforasmoke
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what is the process for regrowing a plant that i have harvested. is it possible and will i get the same results
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Hempkat,
The soil I was thinking about using hasn't been used to grow anything, it's just been sitting in a bag in my garage for a while.
I didn't feed my plants anything during my last grow (also my first grow). This time I'm going to feed (organic), although I was blown away by the quality of the buds grown in ocean forest without any ferts, looking for a bigger yield this time. I will find some dolomite lime and get a fresh bag of soil, thanks.
The soil I was thinking about using hasn't been used to grow anything, it's just been sitting in a bag in my garage for a while.
I didn't feed my plants anything during my last grow (also my first grow). This time I'm going to feed (organic), although I was blown away by the quality of the buds grown in ocean forest without any ferts, looking for a bigger yield this time. I will find some dolomite lime and get a fresh bag of soil, thanks.
Certainly not you.
Certainly not you.
quote=hoosierdaddy;3001026]Weezard, I don't really think you can make the blanket statement that "most" water treatment facilities use Chloromine instead of chlorine. Some of them do today, but from what I understand those are the vast minority in the US.
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How many people are using drinking water that has been treated with chloramine?
While EPA does not know the absolute number of people who are using water treated with chloramine, we expect that the number exceeds the 68 million who were identified in a 1998 survey.
Although each State keeps track of its water systems’ practices, surveys have been conducted in the past to assess information on chloramine use for the whole nation. One such survey was reported out in the Economic Analysis for the Stage 2 Disinfection Byproduct Rule, which provided an estimate of the number of systems using chloramine prior to the implementation of the Stage 1 and Stage 2 Disinfection Byproduct Rules. Analysis of this survey estimated that at least 68 million people were using water disinfected with chloramine back in 1998. EPA expects chloramine use to increase due to compliance with the Stage 1 and Stage 2 Disinfection Byproduct Rules. "
Anyone can call their water supplier and ask about what they use to treat the water. They will tell you if they use chloromines or not.
If they do, I would suggest not using that water at all for growing weed. There are a couple of threads around here that will explain the harms of chloromine.
LOL!
"We gotta move these wa-water filters, we gotta move these color tveeEees'
Dat's da way you do it. Jus' play dat guitar on de MTV.
To rid water of chlorine immediately, introduce 30ml of 3% H2O2 to the water, and feed as needed with no worry about chlorine being present. The solution will also enhance the plants growing and health.[/quote]
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Is chloraminated water safe to use?
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Chloraminated water that meets the EPA standard is safe for drinking and other general household activities such as bathing, cooking, laundry, and cleaning. The water can also be used for gardening (the water is safe for plants) and for watering lawns with no adverse effects. "[/FONT][/FONT]
Now please go look up the rest from RELIABLE sources.
I would not post hearsay, or parrot what I've read on the boards as fact.
There's just too many axes being ground in the threads.
I'm retired, not selling anything, and my advice is free.
(Worth at least 3 times what you pay for it)
I just enjoy de-bunking the thundering river of mis-information that I find mindlessly repeated in the forums.
I experiment before I accept any information from the web.
I ran a side by side cloning experiment with Rainwater vs Tap water w/Chloramine.
The tap water won hands down.
Don't let some huckster sell you an expensive water filter.
Unless your girls are on dialysis, you don't need it.
Just my opinion, based on a few experiments.
As I said before, do not trust my, or anystoner's memory for important things.
Do your homework.
Look things up.
Experiment!
Then decide what's pearls and what's fnords.
Aloha,
Weezard
Certainly not you.
quote=hoosierdaddy;3001026]Weezard, I don't really think you can make the blanket statement that "most" water treatment facilities use Chloromine instead of chlorine. Some of them do today, but from what I understand those are the vast minority in the US.
"
How many people are using drinking water that has been treated with chloramine?
While EPA does not know the absolute number of people who are using water treated with chloramine, we expect that the number exceeds the 68 million who were identified in a 1998 survey.
Although each State keeps track of its water systems’ practices, surveys have been conducted in the past to assess information on chloramine use for the whole nation. One such survey was reported out in the Economic Analysis for the Stage 2 Disinfection Byproduct Rule, which provided an estimate of the number of systems using chloramine prior to the implementation of the Stage 1 and Stage 2 Disinfection Byproduct Rules. Analysis of this survey estimated that at least 68 million people were using water disinfected with chloramine back in 1998. EPA expects chloramine use to increase due to compliance with the Stage 1 and Stage 2 Disinfection Byproduct Rules. "
Anyone can call their water supplier and ask about what they use to treat the water. They will tell you if they use chloromines or not.
If they do, I would suggest not using that water at all for growing weed. There are a couple of threads around here that will explain the harms of chloromine.
LOL!
"We gotta move these wa-water filters, we gotta move these color tveeEees'
Dat's da way you do it. Jus' play dat guitar on de MTV.
To rid water of chlorine immediately, introduce 30ml of 3% H2O2 to the water, and feed as needed with no worry about chlorine being present. The solution will also enhance the plants growing and health.[/quote]
"
Is chloraminated water safe to use?
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Chloraminated water that meets the EPA standard is safe for drinking and other general household activities such as bathing, cooking, laundry, and cleaning. The water can also be used for gardening (the water is safe for plants) and for watering lawns with no adverse effects. "[/FONT][/FONT]
Now please go look up the rest from RELIABLE sources.
I would not post hearsay, or parrot what I've read on the boards as fact.
There's just too many axes being ground in the threads.
I'm retired, not selling anything, and my advice is free.
(Worth at least 3 times what you pay for it)
I just enjoy de-bunking the thundering river of mis-information that I find mindlessly repeated in the forums.
I experiment before I accept any information from the web.
I ran a side by side cloning experiment with Rainwater vs Tap water w/Chloramine.
The tap water won hands down.
Don't let some huckster sell you an expensive water filter.
Unless your girls are on dialysis, you don't need it.
Just my opinion, based on a few experiments.
As I said before, do not trust my, or anystoner's memory for important things.
Do your homework.
Look things up.
Experiment!
Then decide what's pearls and what's fnords.
Aloha,
Weezard
Well ideally you're going to wait until the pot is relatively dry before you transplant. The rootball is more likely to come out intact and with less trouble that way. So if it's dry to begin with you'll need to water pretty much right after you transplant. Plus doing so will help settle the soil snd collapse any air pockets that might have inadvertantly developed.
As for the light thing, there is no point in veg or flower where a 24 hour dark period is needed. Some people say that it's good to do before switching to 12/12 in order to shock the plant into producing flowers but in my opinion that's a myth. All a plant needs to flower is a 12 hour dark period. Some plants take a few days or even a week or two longer to develope flowers when going to 12/12 but it's been my experience that plants are only slow like that if you try to flower an immature plant. It's like the delay is caused by the plant trying to hurry up and finish maturing so that it get on with flowering.
If you want to go from 20/4 to 18/6 just extend your dark period by 2 hours and you're on 18/6.
The process is called reveg, it is possible although it can take a long time. The results will be similar but not necessarily identical.
Basically what you do is harvest all of the plant except for one or two of the very lowest bud sites, these bud sites will be where the new growth comes from as the plant reverts to veg. You'll also want to be careful about water or even go as far as trimming the roots. See the problem is you have a root mass able to support this whole big plant but you don't have a whole big plant any more. So if you keep watering at the same rate you'll likely develope root rot. Anyway you switch it to 24/0 and after about a month it will have reverted to veg and then you veg it as long as you feel necessary.
If it hasn't been used that old bag is still good.
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Yes, Gold123, I should have put in the "per gal".
Weezard, you know there are even websites dedicated to lobbying against the use of chloramines in water systems. Many things seem to be happening to the customers according to these sites, including chronic skin rashes.
But of course the EPA touts chloramine as completely safe and that these customers complaints are unfounded. The EPA is like that...they advocate anything and everything that THEY have a hand in, no matter the truth of the matter.
Using the EPA for a reference and a few anecdotes hardly sets us up with the best info, IME.
There are threads in here that identified tap water with chloramine as the culprit of poor plant health. And I remember seeing reports folks were bringing back from their water supplier. And to find out if your water source is using chloramine, simply call them up and ask. I don't think I want to take the word of something I just read on the internet by someone that hasn't any verified credentials, save for age and a couple of anecdotes. Right?
Oh and, if you do let water outgas for 24 hours, it probably hasn't went stale yet...but simply pouring into another container will revive it's oxygen content to a decent level, even if it were void of oxygen.
Adding an ounce (30ml) to a gallon of tap water will rid any chlorine that exists, and will increase the oxygen level immediately.
*I am curious what you meant by "Certainly not you"?
Weezard, you know there are even websites dedicated to lobbying against the use of chloramines in water systems. Many things seem to be happening to the customers according to these sites, including chronic skin rashes.
But of course the EPA touts chloramine as completely safe and that these customers complaints are unfounded. The EPA is like that...they advocate anything and everything that THEY have a hand in, no matter the truth of the matter.
Using the EPA for a reference and a few anecdotes hardly sets us up with the best info, IME.
There are threads in here that identified tap water with chloramine as the culprit of poor plant health. And I remember seeing reports folks were bringing back from their water supplier. And to find out if your water source is using chloramine, simply call them up and ask. I don't think I want to take the word of something I just read on the internet by someone that hasn't any verified credentials, save for age and a couple of anecdotes. Right?
Oh and, if you do let water outgas for 24 hours, it probably hasn't went stale yet...but simply pouring into another container will revive it's oxygen content to a decent level, even if it were void of oxygen.
Adding an ounce (30ml) to a gallon of tap water will rid any chlorine that exists, and will increase the oxygen level immediately.
*I am curious what you meant by "Certainly not you"?
goneforasmoke
Member
thanx alot hempkat for the advice. I have been getting advice from a friend who has been growing for 10+ years and a very good grower, producing great results and amazing bud. many thanx for all his help, but i have been doing a lot of my own research and beginning to develop my own style and technics. i seeing some nice results to.
So big thank you to this thread and the advice everyone gives.
So big thank you to this thread and the advice everyone gives.
I was referring to your user name, brah But some of my best friends are Hoosiers.
Most of the rest are Hosers.
Bottom line?
They are your plants, it's your money, do what thou wilt with them!
But. If you post bad, or incorrect advice, expect to be challenged.
If you are secure in your beliefs challenge is welcome.
It's a good thing.
If done with
, we will all learn something, yah?Aloha,
Weezard
@ Gold123; If you combine Chlorine gas and Ammonia.
The Chlorine gains Nitrogen and becomes a chemical compound that will not outgas.
Good grief....(shaking head)
Thanks, and wow, has it really been that long?
Seriously though, it's fun to give back and talking about it helps always keep things fresh in my mind so it's hopefully a win/win situation.
Well it sounds like you're realizing one of the cooler aspects about growing. There are so many different ways you can go about this hobby of ours that there is a way for suiting just about anyone's personal tastes. Hydro, soilless, soil, chemical, organic, indoor, outdoor, etc.
It also makes advice giving challenging at times because people want to believe there is one right answer when there isn't. Like on the topic about chloramine that's been going on. I have well water and to the best of my knowledge there is no chloramines in there. So it's never something I even had to think about and so I have no real opinion. Certainly if a pattern of problems appear in an area where chloramines are used ones would have to consider that as a factor. But then there's the issue of, do you trust the "Authorities" to inform you accurately and timely and/or do you even trust their ability to determine such hazards? These are all things each individual has to decide for themselves when/if needed.
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transpiration
Quick answer. There are no roots to take up h2o and nutrients to support itself. Therefore, no roots and transpiration of h2o from the leaves it will wilt and die, so you are decreasing the surface area equalling less loss of h2o. Whether or not this is necessary is debatable, but I do it just the same.
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Heya, have another question:
Why do some people clip the ends of the fan leaves when taking cuttings for rooting (or even new seedlings)?
Thanks
Quick answer. There are no roots to take up h2o and nutrients to support itself. Therefore, no roots and transpiration of h2o from the leaves it will wilt and die, so you are decreasing the surface area equalling less loss of h2o. Whether or not this is necessary is debatable, but I do it just the same.
Heya, have another question:
Why do some people clip the ends of the fan leaves when taking cuttings for rooting (or even new seedlings)?
Thanks
Sometimes the leaves on the cutting are too big and as such require more resources to keep them going. Since resources are so limited until the cutting takes root and since the excess leaf isn't needed to generate enough energy to grow roots, some growers clip the excess off. I can't think of any sensible reason for doing it with seedlings though.
