Vote YES or NO on Prop 19

[SCF]

They will listen to their union leaders and vote yes. We are lucky marijuana is not gay or else the mormons would have spent hundreds of millions defeating this CA prop.

Marijuana will make you soo pasive. its only a matter of time, before you are gay.

LOL

SCF

 

[kmk420kali]

Don't forget one of the best Points in this Prop...you can keep all the product from your grow!! What happens now, if they roll on you, and you have 5 pounds in your home??

 

[kmk420kali]

Marijuana will make you soo pasive. its only a matter of time, before you are gay.

LOL

SCF

I'm surprised the Anti Platform hasn't went there!!
"If you hit a joint, you will suck a Joint!!"

 

[CatManDoo]

Prop 19 Debate tonight!

Prop 19 Debate tonight!

I'm pasting this info from the Norml website. Should be interesting.-----

Please join host Chris Skyhawk for Universal Perspectives this Thursday night October 7 from 7-8 PM on KZYX/Z 90.7/91.5 FM in Mendocino County. We will be hosting a forum on Proposition 19, the Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010, which appears on the ballot this November.
Guests will be Chris Conrad and Dragonfly de la Luz.
Conrad is

1. an author
   - Hemp: Lifeline to the Future,
   - Hemp for Health,
   - Shattered Lives: Portraits from America’s Drug War,
   - and Cannabis Yields and Dosage,
2. the court-qualified marijuana expert witness cited in the California Supreme Court’s Kelly decision,
3. curator of the Hash Marihuana and Hemp Museum in Amsterdam,
4. founder of Safe Access Now,
5. publisher of the West Coast Leaf newspaper and
6. member of the Yes on 19 campaign. (See chrisconrad.com, westcoastleaf.com).

De la Luz is

1. a correspondent for the television news show “Cannabis Planet”,
2. a writer on marijuana issues for various publications and
3. is a critic of Prop 19.

Within the pro-marijuana community there has been a lengthy debate on the merits of Prop 19. We will spend the hour exploring those issues with our guests, as well as discussing what Prop 19 would do if passed and speculate on those impacts within the Emerald Triangle region.
Out-of-area listeners can tune in via the web.

 

[kmk420kali]

This should be good-- I wonder how she will stand up to Chris??
My guess is she will get served--
I hope the shitty internet connection I have here will let me listen--

 

[Hydrosun]

ya but are you willing to risk 4 years in prison for 29 grams? 2 year min for attempt of sales, and 1 year min for over an ounce. 29 grams.

let alone growing 4 plants will get u the same prison sentence, as someone growing 40.

4 years in PRISON!!!! mandadted!

Are you saying that prop 19 takes away time for 2oz, but the current law has a 1 year mandatory min for 2oz?

I thought Prop 19 does nothing to change the guy pulled over carrying 2oz.

Does CA really have 4 year mandatory min prison time if caught growing (4 or 40 plants)? Prop 19 will change that for the micro grower, but aren't most growers popped with more than 25sq'?

 

[Herborizer]

If you are considering voting NO on Prop 19, please join this conference call

Statewide conference call next Tuesday Oct 12th.

Sign up using the form below to participate in a strategy discussion with Proponent Richard Lee, Dale Sky Jones, and key campaign strategists on October 12 at 7 p.m. We'll discuss the campaign and answer your questions.

Sign up here: http://yeson19.com/conference_call

 

[johnnyla]

Are you saying that prop 19 takes away time for 2oz, but the current law has a 1 year mandatory min for 2oz?

I thought Prop 19 does nothing to change the guy pulled over carrying 2oz.

Does CA really have 4 year mandatory min prison time if caught growing (4 or 40 plants)? Prop 19 will change that for the micro grower, but aren't most growers popped with more than 25sq'?

it's 16 months madatory in state prison. so if you don't mind spending 16 months in the clink, vote no on 19. and if you have more than an ounce at home you are ok, if you have more than an ounce while transporting, then you need the $5000 growers permit.

kudos to km420kali who werks for a collective and is voting yes on 19. nice to know all the collectives arent scumbags

 

[kmk420kali]

kudos to km420kali who werks for a collective and is voting yes on 19. nice to know all the collectives arent scumbags

Thank you, but there are others here that are Owners..who are putting EVERYTHING on the line, in order to advance the Legalization of Cannabis for everybody--
Kudos to THEM!!

 

[Hydrosun]

it's 16 months madatory in state prison. so if you don't mind spending 16 months in the clink, vote no on 19. and if you have more than an ounce at home you are ok, if you have more than an ounce while transporting, then you need the $5000 growers permit.

kudos to km420kali who werks for a collective and is voting yes on 19. nice to know all the collectives arent scumbags

So the 16 months in the clink stays under prop 19 unless you have a $5k permit? Or are you saying 19 lowers penalties for more than one oz?

 

[johnnyla]

So the 16 months in the clink stays under prop 19 unless you have a $5k permit? Or are you saying 19 lowers penalties for more than one oz?

depends on if you are in your home or get caught transporting.

at your house any amount is ok.

if you carry more than an oz on you without the permit then 16 months if you plead guilty, if you get a lawyer probably probation.

 

[krunchbubble]

ya but are you willing to risk 4 years in prison for 29 grams? 2 year min for attempt of sales, and 1 year min for over an ounce. 29 grams.

let alone growing 4 plants will get u the same prison sentence, as someone growing 40.

4 years in PRISON!!!! mandadted!

wait! what? are these under the prop 19 guidelines? im confused....

 

[SCF]

So the 16 months in the clink stays under prop 19 unless you have a $5k permit? Or are you saying 19 lowers penalties for more than one oz?

im saying its legal. THERE WILL BE NO MORE PROBABLE CAUSE. so it wont matter if you have a quarter pound. If they search you. Its an illegal search, and WILL BE DISMISSED IN COURT. and thats Law, and a fact!!!!!

 

[vta]

19 just got another Hundred Grand

Facebook Co-Founder Donates to Prop 19
October 6, 2010 | Author: Cannabis Karri

UPDATE: Facebook’s hatred of leaf shapes aside, Sean Parker, Facebook’s first president and the co-founder of Napster has now given $100,000 to the Prop 19 campaign. Parker, played by the talented Justin Timberlake in the movie, “The Social Network” is also a press-shy billionaire, like Moskovitz. I hope this begins a bidding war to see how many young billionaire entrepreneurs can pony up with their checkbooks.

Original Story: Dustin Moskovitz is a co-founder of Facebook. He has been getting some press of late, and not just because he is portrayed in the recent box office smash movie, “The Social Network”. (He is played by actor Joe Mazzello) Moskovitz, who prefers to keep a low profile, is reputed to be America’s youngest billionaire and still has a 6 percent stake in Facebook. Moskovitz has gotten his checkbook out a second time and donated a healthy $50,000 to the proposition 19 effort in California to legalize marijuana for adults in the state.

 

[Tripsick]

Awesome that is money well spent

 

[215forLife]

lol I knew facbook was pro weed.

Been running ads there since last december very very cheap rates too!

 

[JJScorpio]

Lets try this again.....,

 

[SCF]

Are you saying that prop 19 takes away time for 2oz, but the current law has a 1 year mandatory min for 2oz?

I thought Prop 19 does nothing to change the guy pulled over carrying 2oz.

Does CA really have 4 year mandatory min prison time if caught growing (4 or 40 plants)? Prop 19 will change that for the micro grower, but aren't most growers popped with more than 25sq'?

CURRENT LAW BEFORE PROP 19


16 to 36 months. rather 1 plant, or clone. or 100 plants.


Possession
28.5 g or less misdemeanor no probation $100

More than 28.5 g misdemeanor 6 months $500

28.5 g or less on school grounds while school open (over 18 yers old) misdemeanor 10 days $500

More than 28.5 g on school grounds while school open (over 18 yers old) misdemeanor 6 months $500

Cultivation
Any amount (exception for patients or caregivers) felony 16 - 36 months none


Sale
Gift of less than 28.5 g misdemeanor none $100
Any amount felony
2 - 4 years
none
28.5 g or less by a minor misdemeanor none $250
Any amount to a minor over 14 years old felony 3 - 5 years none
Any amount to a minor under 14 years old (includes offering, inducing, distributing, or employing) felony
3 - 7 years
none
Miscellaneous (paraphernalia, license suspensions, drug tax stamps, etc...)
Any conviction of minor under 21 causes driver's license suspension for 1 year.
Details

Possession of 28.5 grams or less of marijuana is not an arrestable offense. As long as the offender can provide sufficient identification and promises to appear in court, the officer will not arrest the offender. Upon conviction of the misdemeanor charge the offender is subject to a fine of $100. Possession of greater than 28.5 grams is punishable by up to six months in jail and a fine of up to $500.

Proposition 36
The Substance Abuse and Crime Prevention Act passed by 61% in 2000

Possession of 28.5 grams or less of marijuana on school grounds when the school is open is punishable by up to 10 days in jail and a $500 fine. Possession of greater than 28.5 grams or more of marijuana in a school zone is punishable by up to six months in jail and a fine of up to $500.

The cultivation or processing of any amount of marijuana is punishable by up to sixteen months in state prison. There is an exception to the cultivation prohibition for patients or patients’ caregivers who possess or cultivate for personal use by the patient upon approval of a physician.

The laws regarding possession and cultivation of marijuana do not apply to patients or patients’ primary caregivers who possess or cultivate marijuana for the personal medical use of the patient, upon the recommendation or approval of a physician.

Selling marijuana in any amount is punishable by 2 – 4 years in the state prison. Giving away less than 28.5 grams is a misdemeanor and is punishable by a fine of up to $100.

Sale of marijuana to a minor is punishable by 3 – 5 years in prison.

For anyone under the age of 21 convicted of any of the above offenses, the state may suspend the offender’s driver’s license for up to one year.

Possession of paraphernalia is a civil fine of $200-$300 for the first offense and goes up to $5,000-$6,000 for a fifth or subsequent violation within a five-year periood.

A breakdown of CA county and local medical marijuana guidelines is available here: http://www.safeaccessnow.net/countyguidelines.htm.

 

[vta]

Hydrosun......It's anyones guess what the penalties will be after 19 until the State sets them.

Looking at ABX6 9 we get a glimpse of what they have in mind...

11310.1. (b) Possession of more than 16 ounces of marijuana, except as
authorized by paragraph (iii) of subdivision (a) of Section 11300 or
another applicable law, is a violation of this article.

(a) A violation of subdivision (b) of Section 11310.1 is an
infraction punishable by a fine not exceeding one hundred dollars
($100).

Nice!

 

[vta]

Oh...and a couple other things ABX6 9 does:

Possession or use by person under 21 is an infraction $100

Smoking in Public is an infraction $100