Vintage Colombian

[red rider]

One of a kind

One of a kind

HolaThaibliss you cracked me up with your post.

That is the infamous Francisco de Paula Santander strain that was traded to the Amazon Indians for Peru in 1961.

This strain is known to knock the panties of a charging paisa at fifty paces. It takes a year and a half to flower and only grows in a small cave outside a dinner in Tolima.

Just joking of course, that particular plant came from one of my first samples from George originating from Santa Marta.

That was one of the first plants I grew full term in Colombia. I started the seed in April 04 and got 3 harvests off her before finally cutting her down in January 05 (it was still growing).

This as with all my previous grows never left the neighborhood. Although the quality of the effect on this plant may not have been as good as some of the earlier exports, it certainly surpassed or equaled all but the very best exports. I’ve grown better. more to come.

red rider

 

[smac17]

this thread is epic

 

[red rider]

this thread is epic

Yeah epic, I like that word. Thanks man


red rider

 

[huligun]

Yeah I would not close this thread. Lots of nice pics in here and lots of good comments. I come to it every day

 

[JamieShoes]

same here bro, this one, the mex landrace thread, the search for trip weed thread and Tangwenas Zamaldelica thread... literally the staples of my IC diet

 

[red rider]

Never say die

Never say die

Alright then we will carry on with the thread. I never tire of writing about our favorite plant and Colombia. IC Magazine is the only place I post my adventures and I attribute 90% of my cannabis knowledge to the fine people here (Thank you). I wish I could go out into the bush and show pictures of huge cannabis fields that do exist here, but it’s simply too dangerous even now to do that. So I try to work on a much smaller scale by collecting seed and growing it here myself in a safe location. I love and admire the Colombian people but I must say after living among them for all these years they have a very violent streak. I find Colombians to be extremely passionate people and most of the time happy, considerate folks but they get offended very easily and once that anger rears its ugly head watch out. I have a temper too but even angry I want to peacefully resolve the situation and forgive. They on the other hand seem to feed off the other person’s anger and it’s on to the point of murder. The women also seem to be more violent and aggressive than the men in general which seems strange to me but that’s the way it is. However I can honestly say I’ve been alone in some very dangerous places and never had a problem. I know every bit of Bogota as I’ve walked most of it and never felt unsafe or in danger although I’ve seen some really bloody stuff it hasn’t happened to me or anyone I knew. I also notice the older generations of Colombians are very closed minded and they seem to perpetuate the violent mentality. The younger generation however is the hope and future of Colombia. The young people here are connected to the global community and want to forget the violent ways of the previous generations. So like the rest of the world Colombia is changing and for the better but it’s a long process.

At the moment I’m somewhat in flux with the wife thing (again) so I’m not advancing on getting the finca. Of course now the wife’s not onboard with anything cannabis related and refuses to even talk about. I don’t care I don’t need her or her approval to fulfill my dream of growing at a finca. When the time is right it will happen and until then I will keep my mouth shut and keep trying.

I didn’t go out with Ray last night, Ray’s about 20 years younger than I and he’s still in the party mode of his life, I’m past that. He wanted to go out to the club and roll on ex while chasing loose women (he’s single). And he’s a drinker, I haven’t seen him since 07 and I’ve changed a lot since then. So I declined because I no longer care for that life anymore although this is the place to live it. I will visit with Ray at his mother’s house where he will be on his best behavior and I can talk to him and his mother about my dream. No clubbing for the rider. In fact I went back on my smoking break until further notice.

One thing I do want to ask and it may very well be a stupid question but can bee’s make honey with cannabis pollen (male) and or female tricomes? And if so would the honey made from cannabis be psychotropic? The reason I ask is because I want to have honey bees on the finca and how cool would it be to have cannabis honey.

As I collect more information I will update and I’m sure the best is yet come. I offer my sincere thanks and gratitude to all who read my words. Thank you IC Mag

Peace from Colombia!

red rider

 

[bombadil.360]

Hola Red!

Always great to pop in here and read your posts and everyone's comment.

I have a question / advice for you:

How's your Spanish?

My guess is that it is so-so, on the weak side, right?

You must get on top of that right now, get enlisted in a course appropriate to your current level, you need to be able to understand and speak fluently to fully 'get' the local Ethos, and the complex idiosyncracy.

I'm telling you from full experience, only reversed, had to learn English to truly understand the gringos (lol) when I lived in the U.S, and now the same happens where I now live, another couple of new and very complex languages to master before I can claim to actually fully experience this place..

You are limited by the people you can talk to at deep levels, for example, reading Cien Años De Soledad in Spanish and living in Colombia, acquires a depth that is simply inaccessible to someone reading it in French or English translations.

You'll also see as your eldest son grows, how knowing Spanish well will open worlds within Colombia that remain closed to you, until you master the language.

Let me know what you think, and tell me I'm just crazy if I'm wrong.

Also, you are lucky you are in Colombia, the only country in South America that moves forward, however slowly...you'd hate Brazil, Chile or Argentina instead, and lets not even mention the most retrograde place of all, Venezuela...

Paz y salud!

 

[huligun]

Paz is correct. Many subtleties of a language are not understood by outsiders. Take the word mañana. To an American it means tomorrow, but it could also mean never. And how about huevos? Eggs formally, or testicles informally. These subtleties are the misuse of the language or slang. The hardest thing to learn. But you will not really learn slang in school formally. You will learn slang from immersion into the language by living in a Spanish speaking country. I majored in English at USC and still have language misunderstands daily.

I have always admired Paz's grasp on the English language. My mother has lived in the USA since 1994 and she can barely ask to find a bathroom in English.

Bees make honey from nectar, not trichomes. I don't think that trichomes fit into the plant breeding scheme at all. Bees are attracted to nectar of flowers. Nectar is a sugary substance plants produce to attract bees. As bees collect the nectar to make honey they carry pollen from flower to flower. Some Europeans call hash of kiff Pollen. That is a misnomer.

 

[red rider]

Hola Red!

Always great to pop in here and read your posts and everyone's comment.

I have a question / advice for you:

How's your Spanish?

My guess is that it is so-so, on the weak side, right?

You must get on top of that right now, get enlisted in a course appropriate to your current level, you need to be able to understand and speak fluently to fully 'get' the local Ethos, and the complex idiosyncracy.

I'm telling you from full experience, only reversed, had to learn English to truly understand the gringos (lol) when I lived in the U.S, and now the same happens where I now live, another couple of new and very complex languages to master before I can claim to actually fully experience this place..

You are limited by the people you can talk to at deep levels, for example, reading Cien Años De Soledad in Spanish and living in Colombia, acquires a depth that is simply inaccessible to someone reading it in French or English translations.

You'll also see as your eldest son grows, how knowing Spanish well will open worlds within Colombia that remain closed to you, until you master the language.

Let me know what you think, and tell me I'm just crazy if I'm wrong.

Also, you are lucky you are in Colombia, the only country in South America that moves forward, however slowly...you'd hate Brazil, Chile or Argentina instead, and lets not even mention the most retrograde place of all, Venezuela...

Paz y salud!

Hola bombadil.360 you are absolutely correct, I speak Spanish at an A-1 level (very basic). I do study on my own and I have been improving (god knows I get enough practice) but I still need much more improvement. You would think living here would be all you need to learn Spanish but really it's not. I can understand 80% of "most" people here and I can reply where most can understand me but no where near fluent. But I do indeed agree with you Spanish is a must here. It's funny because when I was drinking I would go to a bar here and after a few would "think" I was speaking perfect Spanish and it appeared I was. Then I recorded myself one evening and I don;t know what I was speaking. Like my English students a lot for times I just don't like to attempt to speak because I tired of constant corrections. Most of the time unless I really need to speak I don't. I had a Spanish teacher until I got so turned on by her I wasn't paying attention to the class and gave up. Much improvement is necessary.

I've know you for years and I really enjoy your informative posts, you're one of the few people I know that has actually grown cannabis (Colombian) in the Andes. I take your advice to heart and I am most appreciative for any thing you offer. Thank you so much my friend.

red rider

 

[Donn]

My impression is that cannabis doesn't have much to offer, for a bee. It's like (real) grass, the pollen gets around on the wind, so it doesn't need to stock up nectar to lure the bees, and consequently they don't come.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

I don't think u can get the bees to do it for u, but u can certainly infuse cannabis in honey for effect and flavor. Delicious cannabis flavored honey straws would be awesome. Im gonna have to try that. the sugar from the honey should be a nice carrier and help to make the cannabis bioactive for ur body. Where I live we have some simply fantastic floral honeys from all the amazing wild flowers. Im envisioning a flo hash oil infused into a fresh wildflower honey batch. Ive got some blueberry hash oil I will give it a try with and report back on how it worked out.

 

[padrone]

ever heard of the honey hunters? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_b2i_FvYPw

 

[red rider]

The honey idea came to me after consuming the purple corinto QWISO. I had visions of honey made from the fine Colombians but I guess infusing it could be another route. I did see a documentary about some guys I think in India collecting honey on some cliffs I believe. And the tripped on it I think. But it was just a thought.
Please let us know how that wildflower honey infused with blueberry hash oil is (that just sounds right). I want to try and think outside the box and fine something really unique to produce.

Ray called wanting me to go over to where he's staying to "party" but I'm not interested. This guy is going to get me into trouble calling me like that, the wife hates him. So I'd like to say I don't care what she thinks but right now it's best to let Ray do his own thing. Ray has been up since yesterday all coked up with a bunch of teeny booppers and I have no problem with coke and booze as long as I don't get around people doing them. However there is a part of me that says "do it" and I must admit I want to, but I won't. Of course now I want to quit my smoking break but I've got to take the kids over to the church (the wife is forcing the Catholic on them) and I want to be straight. George called saying he's got something special for me but he always says that and I've still got a lot of samples so I'll wait.

red rider

 

[red rider]

I hate typing on my phone, so sorry about my spelling....

 

[Weedninja]

I don't think you can make honey from cannabis that gets you high. The Mexican Indians used to make a drink out of the trippy honey from morning glories, but morning glories have completely different flowers than mj.

If you still want to keep bees, you should know that a European Honeybee colony will probably be overrun by killer bees anywhere in the tropical Americas. A killer bee attack may not be the best experience for guests at your finca.

A better option would be native stingless bees. A)They won't sting you, B) keeping them is an endangered tradition, and C) they're pretty cool.

http://strathconabeekeepers.blogspot.ro/2012/09/the-stingless-honey-bee-of-maya.html
http://www.agenciadenoticias.unal.edu.co/ndetalle/article/stingless-bees-nest-in-colombia.html

 

[red rider]

Thats some good info. Weedninja thanks. You know I forgot all about the killer African bees down here. I have a Colombian friend that is an experienced bee keeper but i didn't ask him about cannabis honey. But cannabis doesn't produce nectar so it wouldn't work along the lines I was thinking. Stingless bees that is cool.

red rider

 

[heady blunts]

there's some bad ass bee keepers that are working with the killer bees. they're resistant to colony colapse disorder apparently...

 

[JamieShoes]

I hate typing on my phone, so sorry about my spelling....

hahaha we all hate that bro... "the fingers you have used to type this message are too fat... please try again" ...

either that or my auto correct takes "hey, wanna meet later?" and turns into "hey, I'm gonna eat laughter" ...

 

[red rider]

Classic Colombian

Classic Colombian

Yes typing on the phone is challenging at best for me but my fingers are perfect, they made the phone just a little too small. Typing on the phone, what a concept.


I would like to humbly present an offering from the central Colombian highlands (Manizales). I call this “redbud” due to its reddish color and the resemblance it has to the redbud I knew from the past.

This strain was grown and cured the same way by the same simple folks for the last 60-70 years. Although it does not carry the same value as it did it is still cultivated and traded within the region but is not exported due to its perceived low quality (seeded).

This sample is as good as or slightly better than any redbud I ever had in the past and I enjoy it just as much today as I did then. I do not see this available in Bogota anymore, the way I get this quality now is only through George when he travels to that remote region.

The taste and smell are exactly the same as a fresh export and the effect is classic. She creeps up on you building to a euphoric explosion that takes away any negativity and replaces it with reinforcing happiness. It’s has a nice full term duration that doesn’t build quick tolerance and a very high ceiling.

I truly love all good cannabis but this is where my head is at. This is what I'm going to preserve (with any luck).

Colombian Redbud 2015!

red rider

 

[Brookky]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Looks good to me wish I could obtain some of that as well.