Vintage Colombian

[Betterhaff]

I don’t think the younger people have had the opportunity to smoke the older strains or strains that were available in the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s. Not criticizing, just making a comment. Most things available today are not really the same as back then, there may be some exceptions.

Love the thread red, it’s nice to see the pictures of the country and the surrounding countryside. I spent some time in SA and we were traveling off the beaten path. Totally different flavor from what you get in the urban settings.

 

[huligun]

I have gotten bud and grown bud that was available in the 70s so the people around me have complained that they didn't like it that much. They grew up with indica leaning hybrids so their memories are liked to those. When I was growing my Colombian Gold x Jamaican Lambsbread (USC) those that seen it growing didn't think it was really cannabis, and smoking it brought out a lot of complaints. The concentrates from that plant were from another planet, and too strong for them to smoke. They were not used to the high from those kinds of genetics. Their memories of cannabis were of a sleepier dopier quality.

 

[onavelzy]

RR, I know you've mentioned safety concerns in a couple of prior posts. How are things there now for non-Columbians? It seems like such a picturesque place but in recent history it wasn't always as pretty as it looks. I get the sense from your posts that things are much safer now but could you talk about that at all?

 

[red rider]

Gold VS new
All I smoke and have been smoking for years is Colombian outdoor grown cannabis, be it crippy or domestic. I can honestly say I have a considerable amount of experience with Colombian strains and how they affect me. Is crippy better? The answer is no. it’s no because of what I look for in the cannabis effect. I’m sensitive to certain effects that maybe others don’t even notice, I can tell if a Colombian plant was grown at a high altitude or not. The complexity and quality of Colombian strains grown to perfection under the high altitude equatorial sun is simply not present in anything less regards of its genetics. Now that’s just me and I’m sure most consumers of cannabis don’t notice or care about this subtle difference in the effect or maybe their ignorant to its existence having only experienced flat indoor cannabis. Now I often hear the angle that if Colombian is so good then why isn’t it still available.
There are many contributing factors but the main one (and most obvious) is money. Colombians make much more money exporting Cocaine then cannabis. Period. Then there are smaller reasons as to why bulk shipments of Colombian cannabis have disappeared, one being Northern hemispheres growers got better and now indoor grows are the norm. In the past the only reason to grow indoors was because cannabis can’t for one reason or the other be grown outdoors. Be it security or a non-cannabis friendly climate, cannabis had to be grown under artificial (note this word) conditions. As a result imports in general all but disappeared in favor of the faster growing “pretty” indoor strains. There is just more profit in domestically grown weed so the mass consumer is fed a bulk product without even the opportunity to make a choice. Growing Colombian equatorial strains indoors or even outdoor (outside of the tropics) is not profitable to the commercial grower and as a result what is thought of as “the best” cannabis are strains breed for looks and smells, compromising the effect in the process. So if Colombian was so good where is it today? Try Skunk#1, Haze and many variations of them in modern strains. Colombian has been “tamed” in order to be profitable in the new market. I just prefer the original, that’s all.
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[red rider]

Colombian green

Colombian green

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[Mikell]

Some of us in the younger generation are tired of the kush-craze we grew up with

 

[ThaiBliss]

Every time I see that Colombian Green, my heart skips a beat! It looks the most extreme Sativa looking of all. Please tell me about it again.

 

[sdd420]

I wonder if the crippy you smoke today is the same as it was in the early 90s. I have heard it is now made up of Dutch genetics, but have no idea.

I believe the people that enjoy smoking the older sativas have a memory of when they were young and the taste of the smoke bringing back those memories. The mind is a very strong tool. To the younger people the older strains are just not up to their standards and since they have no memories of the strain are not impressed. Being a market society the popular strains are available and the not so popular just fall the wayside. That is my opinion of course and worth every penny you paid for it.

I disagree it is a different high that is no longer available . When you smoked trip weed back in the day there was an instantaneous Rush of adrenaline and you were flying too fast to slow down and yes there was some paranoia in the buzz. I can remember trying to sober up with a cold shower haha no way .....you had to wait it out Thai stick mmm
A lot of other types too peace and luck hope you find it down there sdd

 

[satva]

One of the long flowering Mango Haze pheno-types looks like Green Colombian. Thin single leaves, dark green color growing tight to the stem, similar flower structure ~ 16 weeks flowering. Smell in the jar cedar/incense/citrus. The effect is strong, spacious, psychedelic, with a good energy flow and some stone. On paper Mango haze is 65% sativa, but the effect is similar to Colombian sativa.

 

[red rider]

Colombian coastal Green

Colombian coastal Green

Beaten bruised and bloody this plant still packs a beautiful punch


This is what I call Colombian coastal green. I obtained this sample from my trusted Colombian contact that obtained it for me directly from its source. It was grown somewhere between Barranquilla and Santa Marta on Colombia’s Caribbean coast and is believed to be of 100% Colombian genetics.

This is where the seed came from that created my beautiful green (and purple) sativa.

I’ve described the effect in earlier posts and at the moment I can’t recall the details but this particular sample was unusually potent. The effect had a fantastically long duration with a clear motivational high. From 03 – 07 I had time to kill and money to burn so I was getting new different samples sometimes every week, if it wasn’t special I wouldn’t bother keeping seeds. Also I believe this is one of the only low (sea level) altitude grown Colombian that I felt was worthy of reproducing.

 

[red rider]

The offspting

The offspting

More Colombians coming!


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[red rider]

Step child

Step child

The coastal green seedling started out with a hard life of neglect and abuse. I really didn’t think much of the plant and just pushed her to the side, giving my attention to other plants in the garden.

The green is a tough strain (or this plant), I broke her main stem by accident one day and she just grew faster.

No fertilizers or constant watering and the plant just kept up with all the other that were being spoiled.

The green appears to be a very hardy plant that thrives under the high altitude sunshine.

 

[red rider]

More green

More green

Santa Marta Gold

Colombian Coastal Green


Here is the green with her sister Colombian (SMG) that was spoiled. The green surpassed the gold not only in growth but in effect. The end results were the gold was great but the green was spectacular. I never would have thought the green would turn out better than the gold when there were seedlings.


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[red rider]

Colombian redbud

Colombian redbud

Sticky aromatic Colombian redbud

Second only to the Black in raw potency the redbud is premium Colombian.



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[armedoldhippy]

the redbud pictures conjure up images from the early to mid seventies for me. if seeds are ever available, I'm camping out to be near the front of the line. thanks for the ride back in time, Red. I don't have many heroes (still alive) but you are getting close.

 

[red rider]

I love it when someone who “knows” see’s the Colombian and remembers its goodness. But it would be even better to see your face after you took a hit. I have every intention of making that happen in the near future. Sometimes it baffles me to think now day’s Colombian cannabis is all but forgotten. I can remember for years just the word Colombian was associated with potent cannabis. Even the low grade mass produced commercial Colombian would pack a guaranteed punch. I always thought of Colombian cannabis as the missing link between low potency sativa (NLD) and the overly potent indica (WLD). Those that remember know that great Colombian is like no other weed. I would never say any type or strain is the best but I can say that if I only had one choice I could (and do) live with redbud would be just fine.

 

[Rinse]

I dig your devotion to Colombian herb red, not being very familiar with S. American strains myself only makes your descriptions more fascinating.
For me Im fond of African strains, or at least the phenotypes that finish here and the occasional import, I've found similar effects to what you describe in Colombian - uplifting yet calming. Like a summers day for the mind, even the body buzz can feel like you've been sunbathing, different from the straight couchlock of many indicas.

Im convinced these ancient plants grown under sunlight create something in their resin that is lost in most of the "crippy/hybrids" (especially hybrids grown in indoor hydroponics)

It would be interesting to see how African and Asian sativa's do alongside the native Colombian and to hear your thoughts on the effects. I know I'd be going crazy with crossing Punto rojos with Ethiopian highlands and the like hehe.

 

[Unclecrash]

QUOTE:I have every intention of making that happen in the near future. Sometimes it baffles me to think now day’s Colombian cannabis is all but forgotten.

I would love to see this happen and to make it up through the state's!! If you get it going put me inline for some red gold, The black I dont think I ever smoked it, but you never know . I never heard of it called that, but then again I will know by the flavor if Ive ever had it . Hope your endevor works out for you cause I would sure love to add it to my grow room.

 

[pinkus]

Oh my god I miss good south american weed. Thanks for the thread though. That stuff looks stellar Kind of like your coastal green observation, we smoked lots and lots of Colombian weed, but I remember getting special gold Colombian on occasion and it was just out of this world for taste, smell, effect. The compete package. It was hypnotic. I remember just staring out at the green fields for hours watching the patterns in the grass from the wind on a couple of occasions. But unlike many strong modern hybrids there was no problem getting up and moving if I wanted to... it just made everything perfect where I was so why move?

 

[kookied]

Mustafunk your theory, interesting but missing some history. The spread of southern Asia and Indian subcontinent landrace cannabis strains into Caribbean and mexico was not the the Spanish but rather the British. With the The British Slavery Abolition Act in 1834, the sugar plantation owners where forced to import Coolies mainly from India but also from Asia to replace the slaves. The use of cannabis or Bhang , by Indian Coolies is well documented. Its kinda like why they have curried goat and roti , just about everywhere in the caribbean. Any cannabis before this would have been african in origin. If any thing this should help your theory.
My apologies to Red Rider for the hijacking his post.