Vintage Colombian

[mexcurandero420]

The African from Sierra Leone is a real beauty.Whats the history behind it?
Indentured workers from Sierra Leone brought Cannabis to Jamaica in 1862.

 

[red rider]

Yes very interesting plant that came from a very generous member here. I believe he's got a thread about these genetics on icmag. He's welcome to jump in with info if he likes. They might sell these seeds.

But this is most definitely a tropical plant, that seems to do well here. Once I put her in the ground she exploded with vigorous growth. It's the biggest plant in the greenhouse now. Cleaned up some of the larff and smoked some as I do between harvests.

My torrence is low but I got a really nice effect. Very nice plant and we'll definitely be growing more once I'm really up and running.


red rider

 

[silverhazefiend]

The African from Sierra Leone is a real beauty.Whats the history behind it?
Indentured workers from Sierra Leone brought Cannabis to Jamaica in 1862.

Partially true there was slaves from west Africa brought in but after slavery was abolished they tried to source cheap labor in India and those indentured servants brought cannabis with them

When slavery was finally abolished on the island in 1838, landowners turned to India as a source of cheap labour. These indentured labourers (people who came to New World by agreeing to work for an employer for a fixed number of years) carried the first cannabis (or ganja) seedlings to Jamaica.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Partially true there was slaves from west Africa brought in but after slavery was abolished they tried to source cheap labor in India and those indentured servants brought cannabis with them

When slavery was finally abolished on the island in 1838, landowners turned to India as a source of cheap labour. These indentured labourers (people who came to New World by agreeing to work for an employer for a fixed number of years) carried the first cannabis (or ganja) seedlings to Jamaica.

Info about the introduction of Cannabis by indentured Sierra Leone labours in Jamaica was found in British archives according to Chris Duvall.
Sure that Indian labours brought their genetics as well to Jamaica.

 

[ThaiBliss]

There was also an old sailing route from S.E. Asia. They landed near Acapulco, carried cargo overland to the Gulf of Mexico, and continued on in other ships to Jamaica and other ports in the Caribbean.

This is why the Western Hemisphere has had great world class weed that rivals the rest of the world, despite the later introductions.

 

[silverhazefiend]

Info about the introduction of Cannabis by indentured Sierra Leone labours in Jamaica was found in British archives according to Chris Duvall.
Sure that Indian labours brought their genetics as well to Jamaica.

Yea I deff think both are possible it just would make the African genetics that much older

The British archives is also where they found that they labeled anyone that seemed crazy it was bc they smoked weed .. and weed caused lunacy etc .. messed up times

 

[red rider]

Often I've pondered the origins of the Colombian cannabis that was being exported in the 70s/80s. During those years we had a few different Colombian offerings. From the Santa Marta Gold ( I just remember it being Colombian Gold) to redbud, black and purple. And tons of mersh brown Colombian filled with seeds.

We got Colombian wacky weed and candy bar that was totally different than the lighter colored golds and browns.

Rainbow was one of my favorite Colombian back in the day.

Pressed Gold was always a treat and there were many types of gold, from brown gold to the rarer blonde gold

Then there was the dark or redbud, it was super strong with a unique trippy narcotic stone to it.

And my all time favorite Colombian Punto Rojo. Beautiful stuff that was for me rare, I had a couple different versions of it all incredible.
To me I don't believe there is one original Colombian from one imported source. I think many varieties were and are introduced to Colombia and that's a good thing. One thing I do know is that cannabis cultivated in Colombia due to the rich climate is unique and extremely desirable to the global cannabis culture.

Cielo Azul


red rider

 

[red rider]

Really enjoying the Sierra Leone tropical sativa. I hope she gets strong enough to support the newly arriving flowers.

This plant has a good vibe and I'm looking forward to growing it out.

The Hawaiians are setting up shop and starting to flower nicely.

We are using the Hawaiian for a lite pollenation.

I'll keep him around a little longer, it's a nice male.

And the Muisca is looking good at the moment.

Tasty Colombian mountain sativa.



red rider

 

[mexcurandero420]

Often I've pondered the origins of the Colombian cannabis that was being exported in the 70s/80s. During those years we had a few different Colombian offerings. From the Santa Marta Gold ( I just remember it being Colombian Gold) to redbud, black and purple. And tons of mersh brown Colombian filled with seeds.
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We got Colombian wacky weed and candy bar that was totally different than the lighter colored golds and browns.
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Rainbow was one of my favorite Colombian back in the day. View attachment 18947355
Pressed Gold was always a treat and there were many types of gold, from brown gold to the rarer blonde gold
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Then there was the dark or redbud, it was super strong with a unique trippy narcotic stone to it.
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And my all time favorite Colombian Punto Rojo. Beautiful stuff that was for me rare, I had a couple different versions of it all incredible.
To me I don't believe there is one original Colombian from one imported source. I think many varieties were and are introduced to Colombia and that's a good thing. One thing I do know is that cannabis cultivated in Colombia due to the rich climate is unique and extremely desirable to the global cannabis culture.
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Cielo Azul


red rider

Early 70s a big load of Mexican seeds were introduced into Colombia and around 1977 Thai genetics were introduced.

 

[red rider]

Yes, I believe by the seventies genetics from around the globe were introduced to Colombia for commercial production specifically for export. Back then I like many others smoked Thai, Jamaican and lot's of Mexican. But even the best examples of these varieties were not like the Colombian. Panamanian was close and so were some of the early Jamaicans but to me Colombian was distinctly different. Lumb had a smell and taste that could overwhelming distinguish from any other weed.

Nowadays every type of genetics are actively being cultivated legally and on a larger scale illegally.
Unfortunately as we know equatorial plants are not commercially feasible so the tropical plants even here are somewhat rare and quality varies.

However there are some with genuine passion that countiue to grow and reproduce pure varieties.

red rider

 

[red rider]

When I first tried Colombian to the last time I actually purchased some was less than ten years. Compared to the amount of time I spent with the plant imported Colombian was a blink of the eye. I really saw the change ( import to domestic) when I returned to Texas from Germany in 82. By then the Colombian I could get was shitty commercial pressed bud. More potent than the old Mexican brick but a nasty hit that burned you out after one session. Bad taste full of seeds and still $40 an ounce (no more lids). But there was something around so much better and was grown domestically. Sinsemilla, no idea of where it was grown much less the genetics but it wasn't indica which I would find a few years later. Sinsemilla was super popular despite being more expensive. It was sold in quarters of an ounce, $25 . With no seeds and fresh unpressed buds it was a deal. Things progressed from there with quality improving along with higher prices, but there was still imports but very low undesirable quality.
What I was getting at is that all the weed that was imported during those years was not the best. From Mexico, Thailand, Jamaica to Colombia, the best of the best never left the point of origin. These were commercial products grown and processed for export profits (not for the growers). I'm 90% sure the really primo flowers were kept for local consumption and never made it out of the country or region. I can recall my Colombian love affair in 79, when she tried the Colombian I had she said it was regular commercial. But she had brought some directly from Bogota that was seedless and not compressed. Better taste and a hit that defined quality. She told me that the export weed was not regularly smoked in Colombia. Now I know thousands of tons of fine cannabis was imported but I believe the best never found it's way to me.
Now in Colombia just like anywhere else in the world there's excellent weed but really fine Colombian grown sativa is rare even here. Lot's of sun grown crippi and seed bank stuff is around for the buyer but the real exotic stuff stays around the area it was grown at.
Here's some that will never leave the farm.

red rider

 

[mexcurandero420]

It looks like your Sierra Leone will grow to the roof. I like her structure very much.

 

[red rider]

Red stem Sierra Leone

red rider

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hi Red Rider,

I have a couple of questions. Maybe I need to appologize if it is obvious from reading your thread, but I didn't pay attention to this type of thing before.
Do plants re-veg in your area so close to the equator under natural light?
If so, what time of the year would re-veg normally occur?
Thanks in advance,
ThaiBliss

 

[typ 82e]

As Dutch slave owners transported people from West Africa to colonies in modern-day Brazil and throughout the Americas, some African women braided seeds into their hair as a means for survival of themselves and the culture of their homeland.
Grain seeds, cannabis seeds and even food are well documented to have been carried internationally while concealed in those braids.

 

[red rider]

Hey ThaiBliss, good to see you. Are you still in CR ? As far as supplement light I have a small tent that I use for veg and seedlings. During the day all the veg plants get natural light which means I move plants back and forth everyday. Lot's of varieties don't need a veg cycle and can go right outside but I give them eight weeks of supplemental light just to speed up growth. So yeah I use supplemental lights (5pm to 12am) or else you get little popsicle bud plants.
This time of the year is best for flowering due to the cloudless days but I do it year round.

red rider

 

[ThaiBliss]

Are you still in CR ?

Yes, at about 10° from the equator, and I'm afraid the plants will re-veg before they get fully ripe.

 

[red rider]

Shouldn't be a problem if they're outside. To reveg I have to use supplemental light because it's always around twelve hours natural light here.


red rider

 

[mike-or-ozzy]

Shouldn't be a problem if they're outside. To reveg I have to use supplemental light because it's always around twelve hours natural light here.


red rider

love your area and setup @red rider, ever do any light dep., to give like 14 hours of dark?

edit: on a single plant at a time type, build a light weight frame from sticks and cover with a cloth sheet. Just stoned thinking, great area you live in

 

[oldmaninbc]

When I first tried Colombian to the last time I actually purchased some was less than ten years. Compared to the amount of time I spent with the plant imported Colombian was a blink of the eye. I really saw the change ( import to domestic) when I returned to Texas from Germany in 82. By then the Colombian I could get was shitty commercial pressed bud. More potent than the old Mexican brick but a nasty hit that burned you out after one session. Bad taste full of seeds and still $40 an ounce (no more lids). But there was something around so much better and was grown domestically. Sinsemilla, no idea of where it was grown much less the genetics but it wasn't indica which I would find a few years later. Sinsemilla was super popular despite being more expensive. It was sold in quarters of an ounce, $25 . With no seeds and fresh unpressed buds it was a deal. Things progressed from there with quality improving along with higher prices, but there was still imports but very low undesirable quality.
What I was getting at is that all the weed that was imported during those years was not the best. From Mexico, Thailand, Jamaica to Colombia, the best of the best never left the point of origin. These were commercial products grown and processed for export profits (not for the growers). I'm 90% sure the really primo flowers were kept for local consumption and never made it out of the country or region. I can recall my Colombian love affair in 79, when she tried the Colombian I had she said it was regular commercial. But she had brought some directly from Bogota that was seedless and not compressed. Better taste and a hit that defined quality. She told me that the export weed was not regularly smoked in Colombia. Now I know thousands of tons of fine cannabis was imported but I believe the best never found it's way to me.
Now in Colombia just like anywhere else in the world there's excellent weed but really fine Colombian grown sativa is rare even here. Lot's of sun grown crippi and seed bank stuff is around for the buyer but the real exotic stuff stays around the area it was grown at.
Here's some that will never leave the farm. View attachment 18949471
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red rider

I was pondering your comments about the best weed staying local. I reflected back to the latter part of the 60s when a friend of mine would vacation in Jamaica. The first couple of years he would purchase low grade commercial weed sold to tourists. Then he met people who would take him up into the mountains were he could buy a much higher quality weed. Since I looked after his home and cats while he was gone I always managed to enjoy some of this fine product.