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Captain Ginyu
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My GOD, that Mexican Oaxacan had more seeds than bud! Much of that other stuff made my throat hurt just looking at it, LOL.
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elmanito
In the summer of 1951 New York City was a marijuana jungle. From underpasses in the Bronx to empty lots on Avenue X, the razor-toothed fronds of 10 foot tall Cannabis sativa plants could be seen all around the city happily waving in the wind like any other innocuous and legal weed. But for all their persistence in invading the city's forgotten horticultural corners, these plants were likely waving farewell: New York was no friend to pot.
In this photo, captioned Plenty of Dream Stuff, we see Inspector Gleason and Denis Healy, Sanitation District Superintendent for Greenpoint and Williamsburg, taking the measurements of one especially lofty specimen. At this point in the summer -- August 2nd -- the Sanitation Department had already dug up "millions of dollars" worth of plants from the "marijuana plantations" of Brooklyn.
And in looking closer, beyond the posturing of the suits and the cops, you can just make it out -- it's a certain sort of conspiratorial glimmer, a smile, a shadow of a smile, some flicker of dissent passing over the face...
After being felled and used like safari beasts for some photo ops, the plants would then be taken to Sanitation Department incinerators in Woodside, Queens where Chief Inspector Gleason was on hand to oversee the fiery eradication.
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In this photo, captioned Plenty of Dream Stuff, we see Inspector Gleason and Denis Healy, Sanitation District Superintendent for Greenpoint and Williamsburg, taking the measurements of one especially lofty specimen. At this point in the summer -- August 2nd -- the Sanitation Department had already dug up "millions of dollars" worth of plants from the "marijuana plantations" of Brooklyn.
And in looking closer, beyond the posturing of the suits and the cops, you can just make it out -- it's a certain sort of conspiratorial glimmer, a smile, a shadow of a smile, some flicker of dissent passing over the face...
After being felled and used like safari beasts for some photo ops, the plants would then be taken to Sanitation Department incinerators in Woodside, Queens where Chief Inspector Gleason was on hand to oversee the fiery eradication.
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PicosPoisonftw!
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love this thread! 
I agree. Very neat. Its a shame they didn't have any pics of flowering plants. Though I doubt mexican sativas would finish that far north.
I wonder how they got there? I doubt most of it was actually planted purposely . Probably groups of fellas sneaking into abandoned lots to have a session. Rolling up joints of super seedy weed and tossing the beans.
I remember once in high school me and friends rolling 3 joints by the side of a river and tossing the beans. A few weeks later we met up to do it again and found a surprisingly large patch of weed growing on the river bank. A few weeks later the river flooded and washed them all away.
I wonder how they got there? I doubt most of it was actually planted purposely . Probably groups of fellas sneaking into abandoned lots to have a session. Rolling up joints of super seedy weed and tossing the beans.
I remember once in high school me and friends rolling 3 joints by the side of a river and tossing the beans. A few weeks later we met up to do it again and found a surprisingly large patch of weed growing on the river bank. A few weeks later the river flooded and washed them all away.
MotherNature
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does someone here have High Times Magazine # 44 - April 1979
with The Khyber Pass: World’s Oldest Smuggling Run article to share with me via pm to avoid someone's ban?
with The Khyber Pass: World’s Oldest Smuggling Run article to share with me via pm to avoid someone's ban?
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longearedfriend
gotta love that old school weed from abroad
looks can be deceiving...
to the untrained eye
looks can be deceiving...
to the untrained eyeMotherNature
Member
my eyes are trained enough. anyone can help me find this article?
i don't have the issue myself, but here's the magazine for sale for $8
http://www.thefind.com/search?query=high+times+magazine-+April+1979+
http://www.undergroundcollectibles.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/25642/subcatid/0/id/147888
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Chamba
My GOD, that Mexican Oaxacan had more seeds than bud! Much of that other stuff made my throat hurt just looking at it, LOL.
the best way to smoke tropical sativas is to carefully pull the bud apart and with fine scissors separate/cut away the calyxes from all the stem, seeds and leaf, even the tiny bits of stem that can be as thin as fine wire and you will find the smoke will be ten times smoother to smoke....this non-calyx plant matter can be set aside and when you have enough of it dry sift over a screen.
the best way to smoke tropical sativas is to carefully pull the bud apart and with fine scissors separate/cut away the calyxes from all the stem, seeds and leaf, even the tiny bits of stem that can be as thin as fine wire and you will find the smoke will be ten times smoother to smoke....this non-calyx plant matter can be set aside and when you have enough of it dry sift over a screen.
Mexican Oaxacan! 1976
Mexican Oaxacan! 1976
Hi All! Old strains of the past I miss them.....
Of all the strains that I have tried to this day, nothing compares to Mexican Oaxacan seeded and the HIGH was AWESOME! Astral projection, out of body experience ...this was all that, and you would be on the couch
while all this was happening...WOW! I miss outdoor weed from other countries, and Hawaiian weeds were the bomb at that time......I'm glad that someone is breeding this strain again, the younger crowd today would LOVE these strains
Let's see more Mexican Oaxacan
in the mainstream!!!!
Mexican Oaxacan! 1976
Hi All! Old strains of the past I miss them..... Of all the strains that I have tried to this day, nothing compares to Mexican Oaxacan seeded and the HIGH was AWESOME! Astral projection, out of body experience ...this was all that, and you would be on the couchwhile all this was happening...WOW! I miss outdoor weed from other countries, and Hawaiian weeds were the bomb at that time......I'm glad that someone is breeding this strain again, the younger crowd today would LOVE these strains
Let's see more Mexican Oaxacanin the mainstream!!!!
hurdy gurdy man
Member
What I recall is that shortly after writing the article "Indica Madness", he decided to quit smoking grass. I believe his last article was about using breath work and the mind to naturally create an altered state of consciousness.
I personally think "Indica Madness" is one of the most important thought-pieces on the sudden transition from the more cerebral, psychedelic sativas, to the heart-lung body kick you get from indicas. I remember reading it, and extolling its virtues to my friends back when it was first published.
The switch to indica went hand-in-hand with the USA's obsession with cocaine, gangster life and violence. We who actually are old hippies miss the feelings of freedom and brother/sisterhood that resulted from the sativa/psychedelic culture.
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gkn
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I agree completely with the post above...
but about 'R', i think he is Robert Connel Clarke, very known cannabis expert who nowadays co-owns a cannabis growing enterprise called HortaPharm, with mytical breeder Sam Skunkman who happens to post in these forums.
what i wonder is what happent to our friend four_seasons who shared all these amazing articles with us, and got banned (dont know why), and we know nothing about him since.
but about 'R', i think he is Robert Connel Clarke, very known cannabis expert who nowadays co-owns a cannabis growing enterprise called HortaPharm, with mytical breeder Sam Skunkman who happens to post in these forums.
what i wonder is what happent to our friend four_seasons who shared all these amazing articles with us, and got banned (dont know why), and we know nothing about him since.
love?
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According to this article: "R" is "Ron Rosenbaum", who has apparently been successful as a (mainstream) journalist afterwards as well.
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2010/09/famous_pot_critic_talks_about_his_first_year_on_th.php
thanks love?. That makes sense actually. I have an old 78 high times where in the "review section" they have Ron Rosenbaum's book "murder at Elaines". I doubt that was a coincidence.
Well the main reason indica came about is that the massive level smuggling organizations were being shut down by increased enforcement. They could no longer get away with twenty ton loads of tropical sativa on a weekly basis. Those left standing in the smuggling trade were a violent gangster type who could survive where law was lawless. Also once the volume that could be shipped was diminished they had to look for a smaller more profitable load to move. Then enters cocaine. This is also the time the cartels rose to power.
It was a necessary switch (to indica) in order to be able to produce enough harvests to avoid seasonal droughts, because the sativas did not finish here was one major problem. But aside from that its what people wanted and still want for that matter. A sept '78 interview with "R" and someone who was supposedly the pot industries quality control expert. A go between for american wholesalers, and latin plantation owners comes to mind. He was talking about the changing scene and said:
R- "Does dope mean the same thing to people now as it did a decade ago?"
Dope Taster- "For a lot of people it does. Especially younger people, all of whom are avid dope smokers. But the aesthetic nature of it is less important these days than the tranquilizing nature of it. This is part of the recent popularity in Colombian. Colombian is the smokable Quaalude."
R- "Thats a pretty negative way to think about it."
DT- "There are a lot of bad things going on in society that require a little tranquilizing to cope with. Colombian can do that. It's a worthy contribution. Especially in a healthy way. You know, alcoholism is not nearly as much of a problem for people under say ,35, as it used to be. And I think that Colombian dope can take the credit for that. Mexican was all right for hippies who wanted to see God. There is nothing wrong with saying hello to god once in a while, and I think certain mexican still has that, and so do some other good dopes at good moments. But more important is day-to-day peaceful survival. And Colombian offers that potential."
Well the main reason indica came about is that the massive level smuggling organizations were being shut down by increased enforcement. They could no longer get away with twenty ton loads of tropical sativa on a weekly basis. Those left standing in the smuggling trade were a violent gangster type who could survive where law was lawless. Also once the volume that could be shipped was diminished they had to look for a smaller more profitable load to move. Then enters cocaine. This is also the time the cartels rose to power.
It was a necessary switch (to indica) in order to be able to produce enough harvests to avoid seasonal droughts, because the sativas did not finish here was one major problem. But aside from that its what people wanted and still want for that matter. A sept '78 interview with "R" and someone who was supposedly the pot industries quality control expert. A go between for american wholesalers, and latin plantation owners comes to mind. He was talking about the changing scene and said:
R- "Does dope mean the same thing to people now as it did a decade ago?"
Dope Taster- "For a lot of people it does. Especially younger people, all of whom are avid dope smokers. But the aesthetic nature of it is less important these days than the tranquilizing nature of it. This is part of the recent popularity in Colombian. Colombian is the smokable Quaalude."
R- "Thats a pretty negative way to think about it."
DT- "There are a lot of bad things going on in society that require a little tranquilizing to cope with. Colombian can do that. It's a worthy contribution. Especially in a healthy way. You know, alcoholism is not nearly as much of a problem for people under say ,35, as it used to be. And I think that Colombian dope can take the credit for that. Mexican was all right for hippies who wanted to see God. There is nothing wrong with saying hello to god once in a while, and I think certain mexican still has that, and so do some other good dopes at good moments. But more important is day-to-day peaceful survival. And Colombian offers that potential."
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If you took everything the "Dope Taster" said about Colombian and replaced it with modern indoor "dank" indica weed I think it rings true even more so today. (as far as America is concerned, and certainly some European countries)
We've been at constant war for a decade and counting now. That is an entire generation of kids. Jobs being outsourced is just an accepted fact of life. Climbing the socioeconomic ladder looks bleaker than ever, so does affording a decent apartment on what you are liable to earn. Then you have "Dancing With the Stars" and "Jersey Shore" as well as their counterpart fan bases in real life.
Then pot costs twenty dollars a gram due to the law situation. So people have an expectation of a stone that hits hard with every toke, and is extremely potent, and it better or they couldn't afford it. Unfortunately indica is the only real choice for the situation. You can ask almost any pot dealer and they will tell you kush sells better than sativas. They want and 1/8 of sativa and the rest of the ounce in kush. Who can blame people for wanting to come home after a long day at a shitty job and smoke some indica before bed watching tv? Its just the new world. You can't blame people for wanting to be tranq'd for a few hours.
We've been at constant war for a decade and counting now. That is an entire generation of kids. Jobs being outsourced is just an accepted fact of life. Climbing the socioeconomic ladder looks bleaker than ever, so does affording a decent apartment on what you are liable to earn. Then you have "Dancing With the Stars" and "Jersey Shore" as well as their counterpart fan bases in real life.
Then pot costs twenty dollars a gram due to the law situation. So people have an expectation of a stone that hits hard with every toke, and is extremely potent, and it better or they couldn't afford it. Unfortunately indica is the only real choice for the situation. You can ask almost any pot dealer and they will tell you kush sells better than sativas. They want and 1/8 of sativa and the rest of the ounce in kush. Who can blame people for wanting to come home after a long day at a shitty job and smoke some indica before bed watching tv? Its just the new world. You can't blame people for wanting to be tranq'd for a few hours.
