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armedoldhippy

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demonstrating a higher-than-average propensity for narcissistic and sociopathic personality types.
sounds like a POTUS candidate...
With a cannabis violation, there's no inherent violation of another's rights
my (former) next door neighbors teen son ran off a few years back. when found by police, he said "my mom smokes pot! i don't want to live with her..."(because she was mean and made him clean the house and do his homework :rolleyes: ) and the officer talking to him said (in front of witnesses)" we don't care if she smokes pot as long as she feeds/clothes you and gets you to school. you don't know how damn lucky you are..." Tennessee is NOT a liberal place, but sometimes i wonder...:cool:
 

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sounds like a POTUS candidate...

my (former) next door neighbors teen son ran off a few years back. when found by police, he said "my mom smokes pot! i don't want to live with her..."(because she was mean and made him clean the house and do his homework :rolleyes: ) and the officer talking to him said (in front of witnesses)" we don't care if she smokes pot as long as she feeds/clothes you and gets you to school. you don't know how damn lucky you are..." Tennessee is NOT a liberal place, but sometimes i wonder...:cool:
As an adolescent already engaged in some amount of activism, I had acquaintances and friends who the local (somewhat notoriously unruly) PD in SW Michigan had, on occasion, simply scattered their pot on the ground when found, sending them home.

Me, on the other hand, probably both due to the amounts I was sometimes caught with (of both larger quantities of pot and once or twice, other drugs like a quantity of hallucinogens) and due to my confrontational style in activism back then, (i.e. following a raid on a guy's trailer who supposedly had hashish and amphetamines, but only had antihistamines when the dust settled out, and when he 'escorted' the vice cops out of his trailer/home, tossing them out the front door, one Vice Detective Helsel, whirled around and put a home-loaded 9mm hollow-point slug or 2 through the guy's chest that was loaded so hot it went out the other wall behind where he was standing in his own trailer's open door, through both walls of the trailer next door to his, and bounced off the exterior near wall of the trailer next to that one), I was not afforded such outcomes of grace..

I believe I was about 15 going on 16 years old at that time, and I phoned their PD, asking them if they were aware that even under the Geneva Convention, use of hollow-point ammo was unlawful against a declared enemy of war, yet they were using them on the (apparently innocent) citizens they swore an oath to protect... who didn't have the dope they'd alleged, who they shot for simply telling their intrusive asses to get the fuck out.

Wyoming Michigan PD, sometimes referred to as 'The Wyoming Cowboys', who had a notably higher rate of 'accidental shootings' than average, nationally, per capita.

I knew a decent cop on their force who ended up acting as an informal Big Brother to me, a neighbor and 'friend' without the private non-profit's formal involvement.

But confronting them about their lunacy didn't gain any privileges.

The guy they shot in that case, by the way, lived. Helsel had placed a cigarette cellophane over his chest wound to keep the punctured lung from fully deflating, and the victim and his mother appeared on the news on camera at his hospital bed side, talking about the misbehavior by our 'protectors.'
 
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therevverend

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Tennessee is NOT a liberal place, but sometimes i wonder...:cool:
I don't believe that the majority of stoners are strongly liberal these days. The liberals may become a minority among stoners, soon, if they aren't already. Especially in rural areas and red states. A lot of it is the internet conspiracy theories, opposition to gun control, and the idea that Trump and the Republicans are the 'opposition party' now. Stoners tend to dislike authority and the Republicans, especially Trump, have done a good job of portraying the Democrats as lame authoritarians who want to control everybody's lives.

There is some truth to this, but the Republicans were and are the original lame authoritarians. Both parties have swung right, something that is missed with all the 'liberal' 'communist' 'Marxist' name calling. An example is how far the Democrats have gone to keep Bernie Sanders from getting anywhere in his presidential campaigns. Despite a huge level of support. Sanders winning is the greatest fear of the establishment Democrats.

During Trump's presidency he did nothing to push cannabis legalization, his AGs opposed it and his administration opposed it at many levels. One thing that hasn't changed is the vast majority of cops and DEA are Republicans and that's not going to change.

No matter the rhetoric the Republican's primary goal is to ensure that the wealthiest people in this country are able to hold onto their wealth and continue accumulating it regardless of whether this is good or bad for society. The top Democrats share the goal of maintaining their established power structure for as long as possible.

The idea that a massive change for the worse is about to happen if one party or the other wins the presidential election is unlikely. There are important issues at stake, health care, gun rights, abortion, cannabis legalization, and the maybe the biggest one, foreign policy. (You can forget about immigration; this country has always needed a steady influx of uneducated vulnerable labor that will work for less then fair wages and safe conditions at jobs very few Americans want to do) Dick Chaney backing Kamala is a huge red flag. He's a despicable man responsible for thousands of deaths but he is an American 'patriot'.

It's been clear for a long time that Trump poses a huge security risk for America and it's allies and is an asset to it's enemies. Cheney's endorsement does not bode well for the future of America's military and financial dominance if Trump wins.

This may please many liberals who dislike American hegemony but when a power vacuum appears there are always bloodthirsty opportunists who quickly fill the void. Trump has watched The Godfather too many times, also Saddam Hussein's favorite movie. His administration was a disaster for our intelligence networks across Europe, Asia, and Africa.

Guess I got away from cannabis legalization, I don't like election years. I still think we are closer to going to a doctor to get a prescription for a pharmacy then going to 7-11 to buy pre-rolls but it depends on the scheduling. A schedule 3 means you don't need a prescription but the pharmacist keeps the drugs in an area under their supervision. Self selection is possible but a pharmacist is available to inform the customer about the substance.

Schedule 2, which seems to be the most likely, is prescription only. I can't imagine it going unscheduled. I believe that would be the worst for the consumers and the growers because the cigarette companies will mass produce it and make it strong, cheap, and flavorless.
 
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