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:::::::USA Set to Reschedule Cannabis::::::: HHS Releases Recommendation Documents:::::::

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Congress has full authority on this issue. Thats all you need to know. Congress is intentionally choosing to NOT holding hearings. Congress is waiting to hear the decision or "Rulemaking" law which the DEA and Justice Deptartment are enventually going to make, I assume.

Why do you think that is?

I do like the fact that they are looking at some type of reform, something. Rand Paul, son of Ron Paul, can do better. I am surprised he is involved in something like this unimportant reform, but I can see why if its something both supporters and opposition could agree on.
 
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Governor is a very high power position. They have authority to veto any legislation and also to create Executive Orders.

The feds are holding back and allowing the states to make their own legislation, but its only the states that are willing to create legislation which is in conflict with federal cannabis laws.

Are they promoting lawlessness or what?
 

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Meant to post this before. This is what my comment was referring to. :smoke:
 

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1 month away from election day, and they reveal their position on this issue. They could have been debating it for the american public to hear and decide the past few months. Why wait until the last minute, political gain by avoiding upsetting the base over the issue?




On the heels of a new government-commissioned report that calls on federal agencies to take a more active role in providing guidance to state-level marijuana markets, authors said in an online presentation on Thursday that officials need not wait for Congress to enact any cannabis reform legislation to start taking steps to better protect public safety and minimize harm.
“Most of the recommendations that we make…are not regulatory in nature,” Steven Teutsch, a public health researcher and professor in Southern California who co-edited the report, said in response to a question from Marijuana Moment.
“They require getting information, they require the funding to provide the research resources to do the work that we’ve identified,” he said—but most don’t require any action from federal lawmakers.

“Basically these agencies need to take up these roles, and they need to be allowed to do that,” Teutsch explained, urging what he described as “a change in the basic approach to the federal role in cannabis.”
Teutsch and others spoke as part of an event publicizing a new, 341-page report by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM) that takes a broad look at the U.S. marijuana market. It lays out a number of policy recommendations around health and safety matters, research, criminal justice and social equity.

For example, it calls on the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to develop both targeted public health campaigns and establish “best practices for protecting public health” in states that have legalized marijuana.
It also advises that CDC begin centrally tracking state-level marijuana information more closely with “an adaptable public health surveillance system for cannabis, capturing a range of data from cannabis cultivation and product sales to use patterns and public health impacts,” and calls for a shift in research priorities to focus more on public health outcomes related to legalization, including efficacy of tests to determine cannabis impairment and health effects of new and emerging products.

“States have received little federal guidance on how to proceed regarding the health impact of cannabis on the public and communities,” the NASEM report says. “Other than two memoranda deferring to states”—guidance that was rescinded under the Trump administration—“the federal government has been noticeably missing from this dialogue.”
In fact, the federal government’s position on cannabis has actually set back state-level attempts to protect safety, the NASEM report asserts.
“Because cannabis is illegal federally, the federal government has had minimal involvement in cannabis policies within the states,” it notes. “The limited federal guidance on cannabis has focused on its sale—not on public health. Further, federal policies have complicated the efforts of state governments to develop cannabis policies that protect public health.”
 
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10 WEEKS AWAY FROM THE FIRST DEA HEARING ON POSSIBLY RESCHEDULING CANNABIS----DECEMBER 2, 2024

Does this article not underscore the need for congressional oversight of cannabis law reform?
 
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anti-cannabis hold-outs in federal jobs do not want to aid the inevitable legalization. a point- Melinda Haag, a federal prosecutor in California refused to give ANY guidance to dispensaries there trying to stay open and on the good side of the federal govt, saying that she "was not going to advise them on the best ways to violate federal laws..." she did her dead level best to find an excuse to crack down on dispensaries regardless of how hard they tried to follow the rules. got away with it too, until she tried to bully the city of Oakland and Harborside ...
 

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OMG, if sugar had to go through those hoops. Or caffeine.

Also, it's just my personal opinion, but i would think that naturopaths and herbalists would have a better grasp of the nuances of Cannabis. Do they even teach the endocannabinoid system in med school, YET?
 

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anti-cannabis hold-outs in federal jobs do not want to aid the inevitable legalization. a point- Melinda Haag, a federal prosecutor in California refused to give ANY guidance to dispensaries there trying to stay open and on the good side of the federal govt, saying that she "was not going to advise them on the best ways to violate federal laws..." she did her dead level best to find an excuse to crack down on dispensaries regardless of how hard they tried to follow the rules. got away with it too, until she tried to bully the city of Oakland and Harborside ...
Exactly, thats the nature of the justice department, following laws, which have to be reformed by legislators who refuse to act or prioritize cannabis reform.

The DEA has a mission to stop drug abuse. Daily therapeutic cannabis use is "chronic" drug abuse according to DEA which is part of the Justice Department of the federal government.

The Judicial arm is crafting law which is the power and duty of strictly the Legislative branch of the federal government. The separation of powers between Judicial, Legislative, and Executive was made so there is a balance of power and also to avoid consolidation of power in any one branch. Consolidating too much power into a particular branch means its a target for corruption and could be used as a tool of oppression.
 

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Here's a study for them, how about studying the harms and unintended consequences of prohibition.

Yeah its interesting to see the double standard on other natural commodities such as coffee.
 

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Here's a study for them, how about studying the harms and unintended consequences of prohibition.
all of them (probably) like the perks of their job. telling your bosses that "hey, you're fucking up here and harming those we are supposed to be helping" is no way to keep your job. having the balls to DO that should get you a damn medal, but..."SHOOT THAT MESSENGER!" :eek:
 

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And then the head of the DEA Anne Milgram is completely opposed to reform, and is acting in arrogance against the millions of American citizens, who are the boss. The people can't vote her out though.

See how this goes? Who appoints the head of the DEA?
 

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See how this goes? Who appoints the head of the DEA?
that is the POTUS. if ANY president wanted to re or de schedule cannabis, all they have to do is call the DEA head into their office and say "you work for me. get this done by dawn or have your resignation letter on my desk..." it really IS that simple. it is much safer politically however, to "study" shit till the chickens go to roost. Democrats don't want to give the GOP something to beat them over the head with, and the GOP doesn't want their elderly religious white base to find out that THEY too think weed should be legal. and the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round... :rolleyes:
 

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I think there is more than adequate information to make a decision at this point. The president should hold back and let the legislators take care of the actual reform process so nobody is left out of the conversation. Would be appropriate for the president to be vocal about the issue and organize supporting lawmakers who are creating bills to be heard in congress.
 

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The DEA is engaged in the lawmaking process, although they've been given authority by congress in the Controlled Substances Act to do what they call "rulemaking" which is adjusting the category and penalties of a certain substance. The legislators should take on their duty to create law as cannabis is prevalent across the nation and it requires representation to make the law fair for everyone.

Definition-- law /lô/

noun​

  1. A rule of conduct or procedure established by custom, agreement, or authority.
  2. The body of rules and principles governing the affairs of a community and enforced by a political authority; a legal system.
    "international law."
  3. The condition of social order and justice created by adherence to such a system.
    "a breakdown of law and civilized behavior."

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rule /roo͞l/

noun​

  1. Governing power or its possession or use; authority.
  2. The duration of such power.
  3. An authoritative, prescribed direction for conduct, especially one of the regulations governing procedure in a legislative body or a regulation observed by the players in a game, sport, or contest.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition •
 

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Should be using pipes as well, not everyone uses joints, and thats quite a bit to smoke at one time.

Best to medicate or use cannabis for stress relief with a toke every few minutes. I don't like to smoke one all at once usually.
 

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