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[Mrpiston38]

dude if you look at jorge cervantes newest dvd he saits to check water depth by poking the soil. but like i said im not whinning i was just asking a simple Q and your are blowing something really small way out of preportion. anyways ty for your help (or lack there of).....

Mr.p

 

[FRANKENBLUNT420]

Mrpiston38; hey man, i know you are new to this, i am too. . .well the success part of things anyway. one thing i will say is that, i do organic soil, i just started a NYCD bagseed grow myself. and you seem to be well on your way. sometimes peeps in here can be kinda cold in the way they come off, but solarT is right, the best way to water your ladies is to test the weight of the pots. once you have you have watered the first time and the water has runoff from the bottom, toss the runoff away and lift the pot a couple times while holding suspended in the air (waist high for the smart asses!!), and get the feel for that weight when you water them. of course anything differing from that, you know you need to water, thats the basic method, but all strains are different, so you may need to watch the leaves for drooping, but do a search on what strain your bag seed came from and see who else is growing it, that way you can see what you'll be in for from what you are growing.

from my experience a liter of water per two gallons of soil should be enough, to get a descent runoff, or get the roots nice and watered all they way to the bottom. but YOU should be the one to tell yourself that

now as far as my experience , i followed/got allot of good advice from blazeoneup. he is known for his recirculating system, but he did a soil grow and i was blown away at the advice he has, and bes thing about it. . . he is obviously a seasoned grower and his sig explains what hes about. i especially noticed big difference with his technique of "busting the root ball up" b4 you transplant your ladies to bigger pots.

i don't know about solarT, but that whole " roots being fragile" thing was the same way i felt about it, until i literally " busted up the root ball. .. those roots are allot tougher than we give them credit for. after my transplant the plant took off, and the leaves/ branches actually widened a bit!!

now as far as advice goes i held certain people in high regard until i read a Q&A where someone asked mr. cervantes about a certain technique and how it was totally contradictory to the progression of the plant as far as results. i remember reading , from mr cervantes himself, that even HE is still learning new techniques of growing and various techniques to "read" what a particular cannabis plants needs are, specifically and in general. so we are all still learning, and as long as there are new strains, we will all still be learning, from novice to guru.

i say that, to say this, there are certain people on here that will give you so-so, good, great and godsend advice, but no matter what, you have to have a lil common sense about it, now understand, i am not trying to be rude in anyway, but its what i had to learn as well, so think about this: how would you really be able to tell how wet/moist a pot of dirt is by just "sticking your finger" into it? i know you want answers but most of the time , you gotta just use your head ya know, at least thats what ive learned.

 

[FRANKENBLUNT420]

her ya go , check it out--->http://www.icmag.com/ic/member.php?userid=280

 

[Guest]

Good info Frank-

I dunno

maybe if I poke and prod my roots I can make my plants look like Mrpiston38's





YA think?

 

[Mrpiston38]

SolarT you must have a huge chip on ur sholder and i dont appreciate negitivity in my posts. if you dont have anything possitive please stop posting. i ask questions get over it. to all that do post positive ideas is greatly appreciated

Mr.p

 

[khaleel]

hey mrpiston, what's up. i saw you were looking to get the LST thing down. i'm on my first grow and just did my first low stress training. its the best for bushing plants without stunting them, for sure (at least in my vast experience haha). here's a great link someone gave to me, if you haven't seen it yet: ABC's and LST

and if you don't mind, here's a pic of my own results. this plant was vegged for about four weeks, then LST'd for two before going into bloom:



as you'll learn in the thread, you can start it out pretty quick. its tougher to tie them down as they get bigger, and make sure to do it right before watering when they are flexible. if you happen to bend one too far and it breaks, don't worry. chances are good it will pop back up in less than a week and have more foilage to show for it.

good luck man!

 

[Guest]

mrpiston - you have mail - and are quite the sensitve fellow aren't you

Here is my response to your PM

Good eye - yes it is a clone - it's also my breeding male for Hashplant


dude - go read those links Frank posted - I did a search all posts about soil by Blazeoneup - there's a ton of info that will get you runnin better

start here
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....&highlight=soil

ya just need to tune your conditions and your methods.


you mean you cic a search on watering - and can't find an answer?


brb

http://www.icmag.com/ic/search.php?searchid=3818367

dude - 25 pages of threads about watering!!!

Quit bein stupid

I guess the difference between you and me - back when I was told "Dont put your head above that wall" I waited till some joker just had to have it explained - so HE put his head over the wall - and was promply shot.


There's a million good ways to grow - find one that works for you - but your a lazy ass if you think somebody can do it for you.

 

[khaleel]

forgot to say too, i would highly suggest erring on the side of caution when it comes to watering, in this case caution meaning be careful of overwatering. i had a problem with a nitrogen/magnesium deficiency that i thought was from nutrient problems, but after some searching and posting in the infirmary it was caused by waterlogged roots... as far as i have been learned by growers more experienced than myself, its far better to let them dry out a bit than always having moist soil.

the lift the pot technique SolarT was talking about is good stuff. check out this link from 10k. he helped me out a lot with my own issues... Lift the Pot

that's it! keep it green and growin!

 

[Mrpiston38]

UPDATE!

UPDATE!

Hey fellow ICers well i took a little break from posting and just let my plants veg out (hahaha).... well here is where i am at so far.
week1

1month

1m10days

10/18/07

10/25/07

today

things are finaly starting to turn around and and big THANKS to everyone what has giving great/or not so great input, it all helps.
MR.P
P.S. I don't poke the roots anymore......

 

[Mrpiston38]

I also noticed that i was able to start LSTing 2 of my plants now. I finaly got how to do it by what i have read and it seems to be working for the most part. again ty for all the help and if you all want this tread to de ill stop posting..
pics of LST


Mr.p

 

[Mrpiston38]

LST IS GOING very well indeed.. i have a lot of new growth on branches i thought wouldnt get enough light ... almost time for a transplantinto bigger containers. should i start to sex them before or after i trans? any help would be appreciated..
Mr.p

 

[Mrpiston38]

pics of lst

pics of lst

this pics were taking yesterday morning
(well this was a few days after fimmed)


LST


im gerting very happy with what i have grwon so far. going to sex them next week .....

Mr.p

 

[Mrpiston38]

Sexing

Sexing

well we are at the magical point of no return... I have started the 12/12 cycle on my 6 big plants to find out whos who. Also did the final touches on my CFL cab. Also just germinated one Blueberry seed that I found in my last sac (supper sticky weed) so I can't wait for that to pop out of the soil...
Also out of the advice of countless people I bought grow bags for flowering and I bought a PH tester and now I can test my water to make sure its ok.when in flowering what is the best ph #?
so here are some updated pics
lft-rgt 11/1/07 and 11/9/07


and here are the next batch of bagseed and the one Blueberry seed

man i hope its a fem but things are growing nicely. I have no bugs and temps have been steady I should know sex here shortly, I belive I already know I have 4 fem but 2 I have no clue on.
thanx for stoping by

Mr.p

 

[Guest]

i hope that one bluebarry is female
do you always have that cfl so high up? hang it down as low as possible!
as i can see during this thread, they are very small for their age. even if they are bagseeds, they could be much better imo.
i am not criticizing you! you are doing great!
how does your light setup for seedling looks like?

peace
-pm

 

[Mrpiston38]

I know that they could be bigger but I am still learning and I stunt there growth in the early stages, but they have perked up a lot. I didnt want to drop the light much closer to the seedlings becasue I dont have any fans to help get rid of the heat that the bulb gives off but I guess I could move it a little closer. As for the BB me to.... I would love to make clones of that one. PM I dont quite understand your Q.

ONE Q of my own. Dose the ph need to change from veg to flower? or is 6.5-7.0 the rule of thumb?

Mr.P

 

[Guest]

my question was, which lights are you using with your grow and how many of them.

 

[DarkCore]

Looks good so far my friend.
How long did you veg them for?

 

[Mrpiston38]

well there is my 400w mh for my larger plants and I have 2x100w cfls and i have 3x more is I need them for the other cab. I vegged for a little over 2m, they should be bigger but I fu in the early going.

PM~ do you think I should add more light to the cfls?

Ty dark these are the best ive done so far but the next batch should be better.

 

[Guest]

i had 5x125w cfl's for 8 plants. they were happy!!!
i had them directly above the plants. as close as possible, just so there isn't any contact between lights and plants.


they are about 20 days old here

let us now when the new seeds are planted.
remember, seedlings need a lot of light in their first few days and later on. it's the most important time in plants life...

 

[Jam Master Jaco]

Hey Mrpiston38, congrats on getting a grow going. My suggestion is to get your lights as close as possible to your plants and get a fan blowing across the plants. You'll get thicker stems and branches so the plant can support fatter buds later on, and the plants will get bushier.