U.K cheese brightside cut ?

[englishrick]

I know the exodus cheese from gh is definitely the brightside clone reversed. .b dropped it on gh after the laughable atempt from gh first time when they used buddahs seeds to make gh cheese. The Exodus gh line was done to stop people taking the piss and b helped them do it through Steve d ..if gh exodus cheesr doesn't give you 100% cheese clones I wouldn't be surprised. .I did a reversal years back and dusted a whole room years back...I grew 20 of the seeds I made and the plants were not on a level with the clone so I was not bothered when all the seeds got stolen by my ex partner ..he can shove them up his bum for all I care. Hopefully he does and ends up with sub par cheese plants growing out of his ass the dick...lol

 

[Cheesegez]

Greenhouse Exodus Cheese and Kaliman Cheese are S1s of the real cut

Greenhouse Cheese and Big Buddah Cheese are Cheese x Afghani, more yield, less stink, may be better for production if the market is not wise to or demanding the original clone.

Some UK people know and love the original, many happily settle for "Cheesy"

Correct but chaos I've got to say it might be uk cheese there crossed with but not brightsides in my opinion as I've grown them all out and they all smell pretty similar along the uk cheese lines ... But as Ric says above I may of got Buddhas gear instead it was like 6 years back now ...

I think you need a clone off me to see if you've had brightsides cheese before not doubting you have but it would be good to see if the clone I've got is the same ..
what most know as uk cheese and brightsides cheese seem to be very different

Peace

 

[Chrondiddle O]

I'd happily grow the brightside and let you know if it's the 'uk cheese' I grew a decade or more ago..we had a flo clone around our way which was very similar to the 'uk' cheese,very earthy and berry smelling.

 

[englishrick]

B's clone does have a tendency to display a lack of homogeneous flowers from setup to setup. It's possible you might have smoked something that was dialed extremely well and it's not hitting that spot for you when using your preference of grow technique. I found cheese was best in canna coco and on nft with canna aqua. ..but there has been times I've not managed to dial her in nft and the product has been sub par.. but whatever I did it still stunk more than anything else. It just didn't taste as good when not dialed perfectly. ..B's clone is a bastard to dial and even worse to make yeald more than a low figures

It's also possible that you smoked something better than b's ..ya never know..maybe someone had a clone that was easy to dial an you got a top noch bach of cheese type weed ..it's a tough one bro

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Thanks for the info! Good to know the heritages.

What's "cheesy"? The cheese x afghan you mentioned?

Sorry, yes, by "cheesy" I mean Cheese like... Not the clone, but having a lot of the distinctive cheese clone stink, e.g. BB/GHS "Cheese" which is Cheese x Afghani


What Goat Cheese says has a lot of truth, the Cheese clone makes some excellent crosses, but chasing something like the original clone via S1s is a bit chasing your tail, it is a sport pheno, a freak, unlike Bubba or OG it does not self into something very close to the mum

 

[Blazeee]

Cheesegez try your best to flower her out and enter her in to the 420 cup please, i will be entering the cut i have so it would be a good way to compare

 

[ojd]

We have not been able to reverse the brightside cut
Some cuts dont want to reverse (especialy these old cuts) so was surprised to hear it was reversed ?

But i guess greenhouse seeds with the big seed buying facilty, i mean making facility they have worked it out


The Brighside cut and the phycosis cut will be spread about in the new year

Peace

 

[englishrick]

b`s cheese does reverse,,, its really not hard to do so,,,it needs sts or a cs made with 99.9 silver at a specific constant low voltage and filtered with coffee filter paper to remove the silver that drops out of suspension,,using well distilled water you will have no issues atall,, the cs route needs to be "onpoint" tho ,,you will need a voltage meter and a bench power supply to get the right figures for cs,,or you an make a lab grade sts as that did the trick too,,,dont get sucked into the idea that b`s cheese wont reverse people who say this dont have the expertise to do so and or have never tried with the right equipment,,,,,

 

[englishrick]

here is a little bit abot the appropriate protocol for cs,,,the lower the voltage and ma rating give smaller particles which can pass through cell walls. 24v 400ma is too strong,,,test low and slow,,,its like using a smoker!

to suggest b`s cheese wont reverse is to suggest a level of sterility,,be sure when you designate this form of sterility as its very uncommon ,,,people to have tried to say something wont reverse in the past have been found to not be following an appropriate protocol

 

[Blazeee]

here is a little bit abot the appropriate protocol for cs,,,the lower the voltage and ma rating give smaller particles which can pass through cell walls. 24v 400ma is too strong,,,test low and slow,,,its like using a smoker!

to suggest b`s cheese wont reverse is to suggest a level of sterility,,be sure when you designate this form of sterility as its very uncommon ,,,people to have tried to say something wont reverse in the past have been found to not be following an appropriate protocol

If you were buying store bought CS what ppm what work best, or is the store bought stuff no good? I remember reading the rumours that she wouldnt reverse, would be worth giving it a try though.

 

[GoatCheese]

Good info there 'Rick.


Franco from GHS also said UK Cheese is quite difficult to reverse properly, so that it will produce pollen. I understand that is fairly easy to make UK cheese to produce nanners, but to make them drop pollen is more difficult.


Another note..
I just put my Cheese leaning Cheeseberry into the bloom tent, and after only 2-3 days in there i could smell the skunk.

 

[englishrick]

I never had any problems as I like to do things properly when I do go for gold...

Nothing beats home made cs..I don't think people really know how to do a good job when it's for reversals. .. filtering with a low an slow approach is the best a man can get

Sts is just to volatile if you ask me..would never touch that stuff again. It's a Fukin hazardous chemical experiment and I'm just not equipped nowadays..

Ya gota remember this was years back..people should have caught up by now..but anyways. .people are who they are..

 

[Big-Narstie]

School us Rick! I have a ltr of 45ppm CS was gonna have a lil go myself just to save the genetics I have and to hopefully find something better than mum?

Is 45 ppm to strong if so can I just dilute?

 

[englishrick]

Always S1 your keeper clones..cross them to other fems too..even try my personal favourite and the big idea I laid out back in my 2010 thread "reversed backcross" the RB1 as I called it ..the reversed backcross is something all fem breeders should know and use....that's "r e v e r s e d b a c k c r o s s i n g" for those who didn't catch that...

Ya know..today I've sanded 2 doors , arcitraves, the stairs and I'm still taking the kids to school...

I'll have to go back to an old computer to double check the protocol to be 100% sure about the details. ..il have to dig it up..but it's a pleasure to do so when people are up to the challenge. ..so don't get me wrong. .Im happy to help..I'm just can't stand trying to correct misnomer. .

Toxicity and keeping super small particals is the key..using a Canadian maple leaf 99.99
silver coin is a big deal too. The low juice figures and over a extended zap time keeps the particals small enough to remain in suspension and brake through cell walks. .filtering is also key...my advice is create your own protocol from mine and others experience. .then you will have a more in depth understanding and learn more than I can ever drop on ya..it's not hard. Just takes a little time and thought. .think perfection an you will always find ya way. I believe in you all...providing you apply the right attitude and nor listen to people who haven't the skill to achieve what your shooting for

 

[Big-Narstie]

Nice1.. I will do my part of reading/learning then come back to you and chew ya ear abit. I bet some pk s1's are hiding some nice specimens.

 

[englishrick]

Thanks man.. saves me so much effort. ..I will do a write up though. ..getting flooded with messages how this tech is done...I have to detail it now. Cant say no

Oooh now ya talking bro...that pk deserves an RB..bet the fuker breeds true for a good few traits..an RB2 would be epic with that pk..cheese could have done with an RB2 but unfortunately Tony the tealeaf fuked that one up for me an I've never looked back

 

[englishrick]

Good info there 'Rick.


Franco from GHS also said UK Cheese is quite difficult to reverse properly, so that it will produce pollen. I understand that is fairly easy to make UK cheese to produce nanners, but to make them drop pollen is more difficult.


Another note..
I just put my Cheese leaning Cheeseberry into the bloom tent, and after only 2-3 days in there i could smell the skunk.

Franko knows what he's doing when it comes to reversals. . I'm glad Steve d got b's cheese to him..someone who was a prolific reversal guy needed to show the boys how it's done..but if ya looking for that next level weed man then chimera is the dude. He's got the original too and he's more capable than anyone out there

 

[NewAgeGenetics]

what do you think what they use? cs on 20 ppm?

 

[englishrick]

Try and aim for 50ppm. It will drop over the next few days hitting 40 ish. Remember it has a shelf life! .. it should look like tea and be virtualy crystal clear any very dark particals will block things up.

 

[englishrick]

ok,,make this a quick one,,,

shopping list,,,

30VDC power supply will do,,running at 16mA ,,max 28 milliamps,,,,switch polarity every 1 or 2 hours,,

distilled water

some silk screen ,,think small microns

lab grade Ag9999 ,,or 2 maple leaf silver coins of 9999 whatever purity,,the highest grade you can get basically.,,just remember to get 2 chunks for each electrode,,,

a glass jar made of pyrex preferably ,,fill it with distilled water

a small rod,, its to hang the electrodes from while ya silver is being dunked in the jar,,,,,,they just hang there at a specific distance between the 2,,,,about 1.5 to 2 inch is optimum distance between the 2 electrodes,,no stiring or bubbling,,

when the ppm stops rising, thats when its time to clean the electrodes and filter the solution and go back to the the electrolysis again,,bringing it up to around 50ppm like i said before

add this to previous post an bingo,,best cs ya ever seen

correct me if im wrong?,,its cool,,im wrong often