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At least its not the Indians!
Woo woo Woo
lol,mate it's fucking free-for-all in there. Between the populations of thrips,fungus gnats and all manner of predatory mites I hoped would deal with the formers, I could probably apply for a wildlife trust grant.
Something I'm getting into is companion plants that draw the pests. A moth layed eggs in my room a while back and i was dealing with caterpillars for a while. Those bastards are big and hungry just like in the book and one alone can strip a leaf in an hour. They do huge damage fast.
I read their favourite thing is cabbage so i bought a cabbage and chucked the leaves around the bottom of the plants and hay presto, they went for it and got evicted shortly after. Ill be looking for this kind of solution in future on any pest - don't fight em, give em what they want more than your plants. Even if i find their favourite plant is an elite clone (might be only thing I keep cheese for lol), ill just grow one as a sacrificial decoy to keep them off the ones I want. I'll keep it under fed and weak so it vulnerable to attack and feed it systemic evil I won't put on anything i want to harvest. The ones I want to protect will be so much healthier and the leaf surface so much more resilient they will flock to the weak, tender sacrificial companion... and get poisoned
I've planted a load of basil in there man,I hear thrips and gnats both hate it,but judging by the numbers I reckon their just waiting for me to give them some pine nuts,oil and cheese too so they can enjoy some fresh pesto.
I like your idea but all my plants are generally weak and underfed lol.
Mind you it is bloody interesting seeing which plants are affected and which aren't. The birdy cheese is the one which the fungus gnats are really attracted to..the trap in that pot has at least double the stuck gnats per grid..the chem d is the one the thrips really love. The 2 flo phenotypes are almost untouched by both,then the soma clone and my grapefruit x mk x black dom are providing what looks like at least acceptable habitat for both species.
I'm in a bit of a bind with it really.I'm at least 3 weeks into flower,maybe slightly less based on the development (I rarely mark it on a calendar,I find they finish just as quickly when I don't know the start date),so any kind of spray or bugbomb is out of the question although I would be loathe to use them even in veg. I know cinnamon spray works for thrips but the last thing I want is to be dabbing cinnamon flavoured rosin for 4 months so apart from hoovering the lower leaves and stems and continuing to use the nilnat soaks I don't know what to do.I've let the plants wilt a coupe of times in my effort to dry the soil to the point that it no longer becomes habitable for gnat larvae but they keep coming. I've seen gnats on the celining of the tent a couple of times and last round the buds under the lamp looked like they had black pistils due to all the gnat bodies that had seen fit to fly straight into the hps.
I love the idea of companion planting and cover crop approach, but as I know all this life came to me in a few sacks of canna terra pro plus I'm actually considering going back to hydro as it seems to me that as I'm only actually consuming the resin I should not have my experience affected negatively by reverting as the flavour of the actual plant matter in a joint isn't a consideration.
Mind you it is bloody interesting seeing which plants are affected and which aren't. The birdy cheese is the one which the fungus gnats are really attracted to..the trap in that pot has at least double the stuck gnats per grid..the chem d is the one the thrips really love. The 2 flo phenotypes are almost untouched by both,then the soma clone and my grapefruit x mk x black dom are providing what looks like at least acceptable habitat for both species.
I'm in a bit of a bind with it really.I'm at least 3 weeks into flower,maybe slightly less based on the development (I rarely mark it on a calendar,I find they finish just as quickly when I don't know the start date),so any kind of spray or bugbomb is out of the question although I would be loathe to use them even in veg. I know cinnamon spray works for thrips but the last thing I want is to be dabbing cinnamon flavoured rosin for 4 months so apart from hoovering the lower leaves and stems and continuing to use the nilnat soaks I don't know what to do.I've let the plants wilt a coupe of times in my effort to dry the soil to the point that it no longer becomes habitable for gnat larvae but they keep coming. I've seen gnats on the celining of the tent a couple of times and last round the buds under the lamp looked like they had black pistils due to all the gnat bodies that had seen fit to fly straight into the hps.
I love the idea of companion planting and cover crop approach, but as I know all this life came to me in a few sacks of canna terra pro plus I'm actually considering going back to hydro as it seems to me that as I'm only actually consuming the resin I should not have my experience affected negatively by reverting as the flavour of the actual plant matter in a joint isn't a consideration.
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Eik, Gnats.
Their damaging larvae ended any chance of me keeping the " known " Original.
When I logged on I was taken to the last page. Ohho ... Believed the thread had been deleted for a few minutes
But no page 1 is still Here of Course
CdO ,later discovered, gnat off works TOTALLY. ; well, Certainly keeps them at bay I found, everytime !!! (((- : Although £20 Each time may mount up you are given Definate peace of mind
Their damaging larvae ended any chance of me keeping the " known " Original.When I logged on I was taken to the last page. Ohho ... Believed the thread had been deleted for a few minutes
But no page 1 is still Here of Course
CdO ,later discovered, gnat off works TOTALLY. ; well, Certainly keeps them at bay I found, everytime !!! (((- : Although £20 Each time may mount up you are given Definate peace of mind
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Add some h202 in your feed... It'll kill the larve.. Also the microbes and other bennies living in there but if the plants are as weak as described they ain't doing there job anyways... Bti is also great an effective as well, takes time but won't kill the good stuff... Both are harmless and safe to use in flower... But not organic...
Also some cinnamon flavored rosin may taste nice, think I've heard of a jack pheno that was cinnamon but that's one flavor ive never ran across that I can remember..
Also some cinnamon flavored rosin may taste nice, think I've heard of a jack pheno that was cinnamon but that's one flavor ive never ran across that I can remember..
Ah they're not all that bad really,I'm exaggerating a bit when I say they're weak..I generally feed very very little and prefer to see what the herb has got to offer rather than what bottled chems can add to it.
Medium is canna terra pro plus,and I ALWAYS get wildlife stowaways when I use it. I just asked the growshop dude for the freshest soil he had had delivered which he could guarantee had not been stored outdoors for long periods and this is what I got. It wasn't til I got home and opened the bags I saw that dreaded logo.
I'll try h202 for soil treatment,and grab some gnat off next time I'm near the shop,but I really don't want to spray if I can possibly help it.
what's 'BTI' stoney?
the tanlin (nilnat canadian express formerly) seems to be doing nothing whatsoever to the population I've got.I've been using it weeks and still seeing massive breakouts of newly hatched gnats on my traps. Granted I don't have a 'control' plant not treated but if this is them being controlled I'd hate to see them thriving.
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many times under the rootmatt of the NfT recall seeing lots of fungus gnats but Never any plant damage. Wonder Why. ?
Of that, Come across this that a had used some years ago
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Responding to your post below m8
Hiya CdO ! Nowt wrong with Ordering from America bro ;-) ( yea I know ya didn't say that ) When they first came out I got my 1200W and 900W L.E.D's from China - Shenzeng ( or something like that ) This was several yrs ago ,some other brits got them from there also.
I Also got A bottle of B52 from Florida , ltr but around the same time. Pics later today Sometime , lovely day of sun here today :-D
Mate ... Try lots of Small loose pebbles (on the media surface of course ; ). Me m8 I often State the Obvious (((-: .
L O L. Remembering when I got " the 2 Stoke Bscheese's "
Well,yea Navigation Complications and after Consideration meant I ended up sendin' one to the West.
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SP ; have got one that looks like yours but sure this was when I stopped taking cuts and I took about 8 ! . Theres been a mix dude ;
Of that, Come across this that a had used some years ago
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Responding to your post below m8
Hiya CdO ! Nowt wrong with Ordering from America bro ;-) ( yea I know ya didn't say that ) When they first came out I got my 1200W and 900W L.E.D's from China - Shenzeng ( or something like that ) This was several yrs ago ,some other brits got them from there also.
I Also got A bottle of B52 from Florida , ltr but around the same time. Pics later today Sometime , lovely day of sun here today :-D
Mate ... Try lots of Small loose pebbles (on the media surface of course ; ). Me m8 I often State the Obvious (((-: .
L O L. Remembering when I got " the 2 Stoke Bscheese's "
Well,yea Navigation Complications and after Consideration meant I ended up sendin' one to the West.
SP ; have got one that looks like yours but sure this was when I stopped taking cuts and I took about 8 ! . Theres been a mix dude ;
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William76 is right...
I don't use none of those products the hydro shop has... This is hella effective and CHEAP.!!!!! Shit lasts forever... Sprinkle a lil bit of the bits on top of ya soil forget about it water normal... . Plant roots don't uptake it so it has zero effect of the plant. the only thing that know its there is you n the gnats... Do this in every pot , combined with peroxide incorporated in ya feed you will never have gnats again..
Mosquito Bits...
I don't think those would even be available in the UK or possibly EU but I'll check it out..
To give you an idea of the kinds of things you have there which we're simply not allowed, I tried to buy a 'bug-a-salt' gun off the net and it was stopped by customs and returned to the vendor on my behalf..I doubt there is a specific law which prohibits mosquito bits but you never know.
To give you an idea of the kinds of things you have there which we're simply not allowed, I tried to buy a 'bug-a-salt' gun off the net and it was stopped by customs and returned to the vendor on my behalf..I doubt there is a specific law which prohibits mosquito bits but you never know.
farm supply store, landscaping supply store, home depot hardware store, or a swimming pool store may have it... The product was made for ponds pools etc. Ppl even put it in farm animals drinking water... Looks to be available uk Amazon... If they don't have bits the dunks are fine to.. Just gotta bustem into bits which is a pita if ya got a big grow...
Yea,iv been useing the tanlin about a month,but i only had the odd 1 or 2 due to my plant numbers being down,see if it still works as my plant numberso up.iv not seen any gnats for a few weeks.the gnatrol u can get from amazon/ebay.that works but its expensive,if u buy a small tub and it runs out just as u get them under control.u can buy the bti on its own from amazon,iv not tried it but its the same stuff as the gnat off.which i thot worked brilliant but the banned it.76
Boyz you need to use cinnamon if you use soil mixes...
cinnamon is stronger than Bti in action,fuck them larvaes really fast and also
there is no any bad side effects for plants,organic goodies for highly
consciouss growers and will rid you menace turbofast.
Simply sprinkle enough cinnamon to form a visible layer across the top of your potting media, and repeat every few weeks, if needed..
you give a true problems to gnat larvae as they will die fast from hunger...
Rule of a tumb will be----no food no gnat larvae in your medium..
Have a liquid Bti a 3000 unit per ml,its a good thing but acts lot slower than cinnamon
sprinkling..
cinnamon is stronger than Bti in action,fuck them larvaes really fast and also
there is no any bad side effects for plants,organic goodies for highly
consciouss growers and will rid you menace turbofast.
Simply sprinkle enough cinnamon to form a visible layer across the top of your potting media, and repeat every few weeks, if needed..
you give a true problems to gnat larvae as they will die fast from hunger...
Rule of a tumb will be----no food no gnat larvae in your medium..
Have a liquid Bti a 3000 unit per ml,its a good thing but acts lot slower than cinnamon
sprinkling..
