TWO S1 LINE PRODUCES MALES

[Madjag]

I Vote for the Math Camp...yes

I Vote for the Math Camp...yes

Make zero mistake I am a big Heisenberg fan, and I approach with the assumption that I am wrong. But come on man, your in the middle of retreating to markets etc, how about we just shoot from the hip instead?



If I can not lean on you to understand the maths of what I speak of, then I am at a loss. I spoke to the maths clearly I thought, your, my, Mendel's, Burbank's, Sam's, phenotypic evaluation, is worth jack shit. It is an ego wrapped up in crap, compared to skewing the maths with that of altering selection method, I felt I offered this this very plain and simple. I stated order of magnitudes, other maths, I was as plain as can be. This is not mine, this is our collective understanding of biometrical genetics to date, as I understand them to be. Again, I am entirely open to alternative hypothese, proffer them if you please.

Mofeta and Tom have made my day.

MJ

 

[GMT]

Madjag, I suspect you don't know the diff between heisenberg's uncertainty principle and karl poppers falsification theory either then

 

[Madjag]

Yep

Yep

Correct.

However I do understand this: cannabis geneticists subscribing to different paradigms end up talking past one another.

"Though each may hope to convert the other to his way of seeing science and its problems, neither may hope to prove his case. The competition between paradigms is not the sort of battle that can be resolved by proofs."

Thomas S. Kuhn - The Structure of Scientific Revolutions

I came here synchronistically following posts by Mofeta. I dig that guy and enjoy his thinking. Tom Hill and yourself were a bonus. I plan to learn a lot from your exchange, just as I do when I stumble upon other dedicated experts in other threads, books, or articles.

I don't understand everything you're saying, however after reading the thread I merely chose to support Tom's position. Time will tell whether either of you have the most accurate method. You both have humor and respect, as frustrated as you appear with the other's viewpoint. Nice joust.

Madjag

 

[GMT]

Fair enough, well put

 

[wrongwrong]

Madjag, I suspect you don't know the diff between heisenberg's uncertainty principle and karl poppers falsification theory either then

Well some in toronto would now say that the uncertainty is more certain!

http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v109/i10/e100404

 

[Tom Hill]

Tom I will take your word for it that Your Tri's were worthless. What else can I say? Some Bi's are also worthless, but not all, I'm surprised you can't accept the same possibility about tri's. And I'm sure your geography is better than mine, though what that's got to do with the price of fish.

Sigh bro, it is not mine nor your tri's that I am speaking of. It's the very principles of their worth that I reject. Further, I find that anybody finding some extra worth in them beyond what passes through my pipe to be absolute blasphemy. You feed that, it makes my eye twitch. But ultimately I am a fan of Heisenberg, so against all instinct I must make room for you, this as well, makes my eye twitch.

 

[Tom Hill]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavQY5V0xpg

 

[GMT]

Tom, the fact is, until you try a strain for yourself, to comment on it, and to attempt to belittle someone else for doing something in the privacy of their own home, is beneath you. What I was most surprised by though, was the fact that you contradicted what you yourself have left as the intro to your own forum here, just to try to take a pot shot at me. I'm not asking you to make room for me, I'm demanding that you don't attack me until you know what you're talking about. If you ever fancy finding out the value of my tri's, I'm sure we can arrange that, and after that if you want to knock me, you'll be able to do so from an informed position.

 

[Tom Hill]

fuck all that, you've bred clowns, clowns who think 3 is better than two, completely blind of celular reproduction, why don't you do right? tell it like it is amigo, if cannabis can't count on you and yours then we are fairly lost and gone...

 

[GMT]

least you've got taste in music, try this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liX7zPV095Q

 

[GMT]

why not tell us all what I've lied about then? and if you can add a link to where I've done it, then you can show me up good and propper can't you.

 

[Tom Hill]

the very thought, that 3 is in anyway better than 2, was, is, and always be a big fat lie, imo. Worthless, like hyb and his abc cannabis. pfft, I don't give a shit about hiding stuff in the backyard, or your magical 3 leafed lass. You are hanging on by a thread with that crap, you have yet to pass it off as worthy, you spend way too much time talking about leaves than smoke. The former, is worthless, imo. What you got? and if you speak of tri's I will lose my cool, possibly..

PS that muddy link is one of my faves for sure

 

[GMT]

There's a full description of the smoke in my threads, It's a head emptying, body relaxing, pain killing, sinking into the furniture smoke. It helps me to destress, it lets me watch a film or play a game without my mind focusing on problems after 1, and lets me sleep after 2. Its a decent yield that wont hermy on you regardless of how you treat it ( I dont mean treat as in with chems though not tried that one), but for a newbie grower or lazy grower, it does well when over or under watered, light leaks arent an issue for it, lighting times arent an issue for it. Sounds dreadfull doesn't it, I've really fucked up making this havent I?

 

[Tom Hill]

search you feelings luke, you believe it yields more because of 3, this is incorrect. Beyond that, you've bred within our community the same thoughts. This is all incorrect, this is what bothers me, this is what make my eye twitch. You have absolutely failed to show that, in fact I can show otherwise. This is the crux of my twitch, the breeding of ignorance. This is not about our smoke, cease trying to make it so.

 

[Tom Hill]

you took your eye off of something because you thought something else was worth something, your conclusion should be that it wasn't worth taking your eyes off of plan A, this is the only lesson I see to be had here.

 

[GMT]

you asked me to make it about smoke in your last post.
go ahead, show me that my tris produce less than average yields. I've tried other strains, including yours, and I disagree. Though I did find the apple taste of the x18 interesting.

 

[Tom Hill]

tell me how it's gunna be george, if I hold my breath, and do a bunch of nitrous will I turn blue? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ5q1z9xB0g

 

[GMT]

on the contrary, I chased the smoke 1st, the tri thing second. To prove it, I bred my tri line to other bi's in the past trying to get the right effect, remember these started of in my orangeberrys, since then I added black dom and nutcruncher into the mix, which hurt my tri numbers for years, till I got them up again AFTER getting the right effect for ME.

 

[Tom Hill]

I am of the understanding that we might speak of genetics, without necessarily mine or your lines? Line the merits of 3 vs 2, like the price of early, like the risk of late?

 

[Tom Hill]

YOU sir have bred an online following that think very wrongfully that 3 is better than 2.. I have seen it, I would hope you don't believe it yourself, because it's bullshit. Further, set out to fix it, you owe.