Trump threatens medical cannabis

[Orrie]

Don't forget that this guy is a key part of Trumps agenda...





Mitch McConnell on Drugs
Republican Sr Senator (KY)



Strongly opposed to legalization of marijuana
Appearing on a radio program for University of Kentucky sports fans, Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Alison Lundergan Grimes said it's "worthwhile" to discuss legalizing marijuana and requiring background checks for all gun purchases at gun shows.

On marijuana, Grimes criticized Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell for not realizing the "economic benefits" the state of Colorado has enjoyed after legalizing recreational use of marijuana, adding that she's "in favor of having the discussion, especially to reclassify the use of marijuana."

"We haven't had a senator who's even wanted to have those discussions though," Grimes said.

A spokesman for McConnell's Senate office, said in a statement later Thursday that "Senator McConnell is strongly opposed to legalization of marijuana as Kentucky families deserve no less."

A February poll of registered Kentucky voters found that 52% favored "allowing the use of medical marijuana in Kentucky," with 37% opposed & 12% not sure.
Source: Lexington Herald Leader on 2014 Kentucky Senate race , Sep 25, 2014

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Mitch_McConnell_Drugs.htm

Its bigger than one man is what I am saying in this thread
Trump (and Company) threaten medical cannabis


and it sucks

 

[resin_lung]

Politicians should be Champions of all Americans. I hate all the hate of people who are successful. We should encourage people to improve their lives not, encourage them to live off the taxes of evil rich people.I don't see welfare recipients creating jobs, or opportunities for anyone. There is nothing wrong with people keeping the money they earned.

There's nothing wrong with people keeping the money they earned. But why should they get to keep more of it than anybody else?

$250,000 is the cut off between the middle and highest tax bracket?

A person who makes $1,000,000,000 pays the same as someone who makes $250,001?

There are only gonna be 3 brackets as apposed to 7.

It will be 10%, 25% and 35%.

Today's rates are 10%, 15%, 25%, 28%, 33%, 35% and 39.6%.

So the guy in the middle bracket pays 15% more that the guy in the lower bracket, but the guy in the top bracket only pays 10% more than the guy in the middle.

The "death tax"......

About 11,300 estate tax returns were filed for people who died in 2013, of which only 4,700 were taxable, less than 1 in 550 of the 2.6 million people who died in that year.

He's in it for the richest of the rich.
BELIEVE ME!

It's a fleecing!! I know because Trump is going to increase my accounts balance by a few TEN's of millions of dollars!

That's just on the Estate tax.

I fkn hate Trump but there's only so much I can do about it.

The electoral college has spoken and in the end....I'm just one man.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Don't forget that this guy is a key part of Trumps agenda...





Mitch McConnell on Drugs
Republican Sr Senator (KY)



Strongly opposed to legalization of marijuana
Appearing on a radio program for University of Kentucky sports fans, Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Alison Lundergan Grimes said it's "worthwhile" to discuss legalizing marijuana and requiring background checks for all gun purchases at gun shows.

On marijuana, Grimes criticized Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell for not realizing the "economic benefits" the state of Colorado has enjoyed after legalizing recreational use of marijuana, adding that she's "in favor of having the discussion, especially to reclassify the use of marijuana."

"We haven't had a senator who's even wanted to have those discussions though," Grimes said.

A spokesman for McConnell's Senate office, said in a statement later Thursday that "Senator McConnell is strongly opposed to legalization of marijuana as Kentucky families deserve no less."

A February poll of registered Kentucky voters found that 52% favored "allowing the use of medical marijuana in Kentucky," with 37% opposed & 12% not sure.
Source: Lexington Herald Leader on 2014 Kentucky Senate race , Sep 25, 2014

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Mitch_McConnell_Drugs.htm

Its bigger than one man is what I am saying in this thread
Trump (and Company) threaten medical cannabis


and it sucks

I think I remember reading that he has been quite flexible on the hemp issue & is actually supportive of it.

 

[packerfan79]

I want a flat tax, everyone should pay the exact same %. Thats true equality. No more punishing the successful people. No more rewarding people who don't work

 

[subrob]

First off...I am a Libertarian. I believe that any person in the government that breaks laws or puts our national security in jeopardy, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law{opposite of Manning}. This includes Trump. However there has been absolutely no proof that Trump broke the law....just a bunch of crying and a shit ton of fake news coming out of the msm. We have people quoting sources such as the Palmer Report. But what is even scarier is how the msm has become so partisan. It's come down to making shit up..this anyom source confirmed that his anoym source verified {insert today's conspiracy}. And of course the 'It's okay for us but not for you mentality.

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Packer makes a great point...Obama used tax payers money {our taxes} to help Netanyahu's opponent. How is that not considered foreign interference to sway an election???? It's either right or wrong...the President's political views should not be the determining factor.

I have several social liberal leanings. But it seems the Dems sling the most shit and can be very nasty as a party {the DNC}. Do me a favor and listen to the head of the DNC and the head of their CA chapter during the last rally. Listen to their new superstar Harris give everything she has to continue and cause more division. I could never stand with that or want my children to be influenced with such hateful rhetoric.

The GOP are just a bunch of pussies. The last eight years...we have no power...and now that they do...Dems won't let us. Both parties need to refocus and get their priorities straight. Unfortunately it's all about them and their rise to wealth and power.

Have to disagree w the last part there
The DEMOCRATS are the pussies!
The "when they go low we go high" crowd doesn't understand how the game works. I respect the shit out of republican politicians in that they will lie cheat steal fuck underage boys and then convince the country that it was someone else's fault. They dominate the little bitches who run as Democrats. There is nothing they will not do to win. And that my friends is how shit gets done in America. Don't like the rules? Change em...get them colored folks out of the voting district! Ruthless.
So until the Dems actually mount SOME sort of offensive besides the women's day off March they will remain the party of spineless wretches!

 

[resin_lung]

I want a flat tax, everyone should pay the exact same %. Thats true equality. No more punishing the successful people. No more rewarding people who don't work

Flat tax. It's not that clear cut. It's about taxable income. Costs, deductions and shelters..... Trump ain't the only dude with good accountants.

Just spend everything you got on things that will make you money. Even if it's almost nothing. It's not like you'll need the money anyway. Just freeze that shit!

It's easy for rich people to not pay a single dollar in taxes. Look at Trump. Getting out of paying a flat tax is just as easy as getting out of paying taxes today. Problem is poor people don't have extra to spend(invest), their just trying to eat.

 

[resinryder]

I agree with the 3rd party. However, let a new "for the "People" party" get into power, that power will go to their head and corruption will rear it's ugly head in it given enough time.
Remember, no one spends millions and millions of dollars for a 2/6 year job that pays $174,000 a year then leaves a multimillionaire.

 

[Orrie]

I think I remember reading that he has been quite flexible on the hemp issue & is actually supportive of it.

Yes that is correct. He became supportive after seeing the superpac monies to be had. The tea party is alive and well.

 

[packerfan79]

I agree with the 3rd party. However, let a new "for the "People" party" get into power, that power will go to their head and corruption will rear it's ugly head in it given enough time.
Remember, no one spends millions and millions of dollars for a 2/6 year job that pays $174,000 a year then leaves a multimillionaire.

If you make 174,000 a year and leave a 4 or 6 year term a millionaire, you are a corrupt ass person and should be prosecuted for said corruption. Follow the rules in the constitution and our country will be fine, neither party does.

 

[packerfan79]

Flat tax. It's not that clear cut. It's about taxable income. Costs, deductions and shelters..... Trump ain't the only dude with good accountants.

Just spend everything you got on things that will make you money. Even if it's almost nothing. It's not like you'll need the money anyway. Just freeze that shit!

It's easy for rich people to not pay a single dollar in taxes. Look at Trump. Getting out of paying a flat tax is just as easy as getting out of paying taxes today. Problem is poor people don't have extra to spend(invest), their just trying to eat.

My plan would not involve deductions, or loop holes, also the 41% running cost of a bloated unaccountable bureaucrats would be drastically reduced. Most people don't realize 41cents on the,dollar taken in by the irs is spent on administrative costs, that amounts to billions of dollars we could save each year. That's less money taken from Americans. Both parties know that if the little guy and the big guy pay the same rate, people would be much more critical of government spending. Republicans and Democrats would actually have something to agree on .

 

[Cannavore]

 

[packerfan79]

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Fair is fair, pay your way.

 

[Jhhnn]

Politicians should be Champions of all Americans. I hate all the hate of people who are successful. We should encourage people to improve their lives not, encourage them to live off the taxes of evil rich people.I don't see welfare recipients creating jobs, or opportunities for anyone. There is nothing wrong with people keeping the money they earned.

I think it's excuseable for people who have very little to be greedy. More money makes their meager lives better. It takes on a whole different aspect when it's the ultra-rich, however, becoming something malevolent & controlling. It's not about living a better life at all, because they spend very little of their vast incomes on on their lifestyles. It's about owning more & about the Power to run other people's lives. It's about keeping score in their hyper competitive world of high finance, too.

Shee-it, Sherlock- their incomes are so huge that buying the Repub party is cheaper than taxes. Their power is already excessive.

Sometimes I try to imagine what it would be like to knock down Millions per year & what kind of asshole I'd have to be to resent paying taxes. I can't really put it together in my head. Trump apparently has no problem with doing that, never has.

I suppose that makes me some kind of Commie, but I figure I'm in good company with men like Benjamin Franklin & Thomas Paine-

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/w...s-paine-and-ben-franklin-you-didnt-build-that

 

[seeded]

Flat taxes are fairer but realistically unless you're a banker money doesn't just appear out of thin air. It comes from exploiting a resource or adding value through service or labor and if you're not putting in a fair days work it seems unfair that you get an equal share let alone the biggest portion when it's made off the hard work of others. It feels like it's opposite welfare and the more you make the more likely it is your fortune has been made through exploiting other people or nature in general so it seems fairer to have a tiered system that at least attempts to claw some of that money back.

 

[packerfan79]

I think it's excuseable for people who have very little to be greedy. More money makes their meager lives better. It takes on a whole different aspect when it's the ultra-rich, however, becoming something malevolent & controlling. It's not about living a better life at all, because they spend very little of their vast incomes on on their lifestyles. It's about owning more & about the Power to run other people's lives. It's about keeping score in their hyper competitive world of high finance, too.

Shee-it, Sherlock- their incomes are so huge that buying the Repub party is cheaper than taxes. Their power is already excessive.

Sometimes I imagne what it would be like to knock down Millions per year & what kind of asshole I'd have to be to resent paying taxes. I can't really put it together in my head. Trump apparently has no problem with doing that, never has.

I suppose that makes me some kind of Commie, but I figure I'm in good company with men like Benjamin Franklin & Thomas Paine-

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/w...s-paine-and-ben-franklin-you-didnt-build-that

No founding father would be in support of FAILED socialist policies, the policies have failed time and time again, when they fail then you get the atrocities of Mao, Stalin, Che Guevara, Pol pot. Socialism inevitably leads to mass murder, and mass starvation.These men have killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. Funny how people act as if Hitler is the most evil man to walk the earth, when Marxist like Mao and Stalin killed 20 times the innocent people than Hitler did.Hitler was a maniacal mad man, not discounting the Holocaust. The fact is Hitler and the National socialist workers party (NAZI) are in the same category of socialist.

 

[Jhhnn]

No founding father would be in support of FAILED socialist policies, the policies have failed time and time again, when they fail then you get the atrocities of Mao, Stalin, Che Guevara, Pol pot. Socialism inevitably leads to mass murder, and mass starvation.These men have killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. Funny how people act as if Hitler is the most evil man to walk the earth, when Marxist like Mao and Stalin killed 20 times the innocent people than Hitler did.Hitler was a maniacal mad man, not discounting the Holocaust. The fact is Hitler and the National socialist workers party (NAZI) are in the same category of socialist.

You merely divert from the topic at hand into the usual well practiced denial of the Right. We are in no danger of Communist style govt. We are in danger of too much greed at the top & what that top down class warfare has done to the fortunes of the middle class for the last 35 years or so. This is an astoundingly wealthy country. It's just that too much of that wealth is now in the hands of people who would deny responsibility to the nation that made them as astoundingly wealthy as they are. It's not like they need money at all.

From above comes the plutocratic insurgency, in which globalized elites seek to disengage from traditional national obligations and responsibilities. From libertarian activists to tax-haven lawyers to currency speculators to mineral-extraction magnates, the new global super-rich and their hired help are waging a broad-based campaign to limit the reach and capacity of government tax-collectors and regulators, or to manipulate these functions as a tool in their own cut-throat business competition.

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2014/06/15/the-twin-insurgency/

Trump & the Repubs spearhead that insurgency, make no mistake about it. They went international a long time ago & feel no loyalty to this country or any other- only to themselves.

 

[packerfan79]

@ jhhnn nice to know that 100 plus million deaths are just a diversion to you.way to honor their memory . The opportunity to become a millionaire , to be wildly successful is what makes this country great. The American dream isn't taking from those who have worked and studied and fought to be successful. That is the economics of failure. The opportunity is their make it happen. I struggle to but I don't hate successful people, I try to learn from them.

 

[vta]

You would not normally see me post a link to Huff Post...but this shit rocked my world !!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ign=zergnet_1727172&ncid=txtlnkusaolc00000894

 

[vta]

There's nothing wrong with people keeping the money they earned. But why should they get to keep more of it than anybody else?

I do not understand the logic.

$250,000 is the cut off between the middle and highest tax bracket?

A person who makes $1,000,000,000 pays the same as someone who makes $250,001?

The dude making a billion dollars a year is paying more, millions more, than the average taxpayer. I am trying to figure out the point you are trying to make?? So....'rich' people should pay more. Like how? Percentage wise? I noticed the 'Trump pays no taxes' comment earlier and I think to the ONLY tax information we have on him...oh and by the way revealed by Maddow on a super hyped show...we found out that on less than $200 million in income, he payed over $30 million in taxes in just one year. Now, I don't know about you but I would say that paying over $30 million dollars in taxes...in a single year...is pretty amazing. To make so much money that you pay over $30 million dollars in taxes in just one single year. In other words, that motherfucker is paying for more shit than anyone you will ever know...personally...that is.

But the question I have is...how much? How much do you want or rather feel the government deserves of the income a person makes off their labor. This is America baby...where anyone can reach the top...because of economic freedom. A bloated federal government only hampers that freedom.

 

[packerfan79]

I do not understand the logic.



The dude making a billion dollars a year is paying more, millions more, than the average taxpayer. I am trying to figure out the point you are trying to make?? So....'rich' people should pay more. Like how? Percentage wise? I noticed the 'Trump pays no taxes' comment earlier and I think to the ONLY tax information we have on him...oh and by the way revealed by Maddow on a super hyped show...we found out that on less than $200 million in income, he payed over $30 million in taxes in just one year. Now, I don't know about you but I would say that paying over $30 million dollars in taxes...in a single year...is pretty amazing. To make so much money that you pay over $30 million dollars in taxes in just one single year. In other words, that motherfucker is paying for more shit than anyone you will ever know...personally...that is.

But the question I have is...how much? How much do you want or rather feel the government deserves of the income a person makes off their labor. This is America baby...where anyone can reach the top...because of economic freedom. A bloated federal government only hampers that freedom.

The Democratic party platform, would love to see a 90 % tax on those making over 250k. Bernie wants to tax everyone at 90% but it's ok cause you will get healthcare and free college. We all get to live in housing projects, where we will be easily controlled. Government will supply all your needs. Glorious government will be everything to you.