Trump threatens medical cannabis

[Stay Gel^N 247]

Stay Gel^N...

I've known many Native Americans and all have been very good decent people... with the exception of one abusive control freak asshole. But all kinds of folks have those types. What you're describing in Northern California is a localized Social/Cultural structure and they are the exception to the norm. It's wrong to incriminate all peoples of one ethnicity as the same... either good or bad.

All Native American cultures most certainly are not the same.

In some groups, you and I would be consider 'White Devils'. Those people don't know either of us... but our inner spirits show themselves in what we say, write and do.

I've been to many reservations here and the surrounding places but I've only lived in Northern California, not seeing the rest of the nation's way of life, maybe I should be more specific about the wording that I choose.

@ Stay Gel^N...

thats way over simplified. the textile, oil and paper industry wanted hemp gone. the excuses for it where that it made black males want to have sex with white females and apparently white females were not averse either lol. anyway, there are some great documentaries that explain the historical narrative and how hemp was criminalized and why. lets just say those advocating the criminalizing had a massive conflict of interest.

I've seen a few of the propaganda films myself. As a TV and media culture of today, they are almost funny. But back then they were a tool used to educate from only one point of view, so they scared allot of people. Especially since you have to realize, most weed that was here in USA was landrace sativa. We all know the psychoactive effect that has hahaha. Most women go crazy for that, but I myself have never gotten a girl high or drunk and took advantage of them. Not without telling them first hahaha

cannabis was made illegal so that white America had a stick to beat other races & cultures with. Congress never really believed the horseshit (nor did Anslinger) but it gave them a weapon so they went along. Trump & Sessions enforce any law that allows them to discriminate against folks that disagree with them for any reason. actions against Christian teachings have little or nothing to do with US law. damn near anything against our laws is illegal everywhere simply because it is WRONG, not because Christians are morally superior to other religions. this country has NEVER truly been indivisible with liberty & justice for all. open your eyes, watch the news, read a history book or two for Gods sake!

The superiority of different religions and cultures is not for me to decide. The fact that we are such a diverse country is why we cannot decide on what values and laws should be considered right for everyone. The conflict and segregation we have here is what I find distasteful, we all typically prefer the comfort of being surrounded with people of similar beliefs simply because it is more comfortable to live that way. I myself very much enjoy other cultures, unless they treat me badly and don't accept that I am different.

 

[oldchuck]

I guess it only takes one guy to ruin an interesting thread.

 

[toxic hippie]

I guess it only takes one guy to ruin an interesting thread.

yep

 

[Stay Gel^N 247]

Damn I'm good!

 

[Gry]

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[toxic hippie]

Damn I'm good!

your a fucking menace the spews hate and justification for your hatred and superiority.

the fact that this thread went into the toilet should let you know that no one wants to to be around your shit slinging.

 

[subrob]

Damn I'm good!

Of all the spaz shit talkers on IC you are the only one that can close down a political thread that the mods actually leave open...hell...even trumpies stay away from you.

 

[brown_thumb]

Folks, we're lowering ourselves to getting personal. The mods will close the thread for certain if this continues. Sometimes it's better to simply ignore the posts from an instigator rather than react to them... I'm as guilty as most with regard to 'reacting' though. This thread is no exception, though I've tried to avoid being accusatory... as much as I wanted to be.

 

[Stay Gel^N 247]

The fact that someone believes they get to decide what president we have based upon their own beliefs and agendas rather than the will of the voting majority, is a true sign of someone who feels superiority. To not accept that others have a different belief system and to combat their will using methods designed to intimidate and weaken others psychologically is considered hatred to me.

Being spastic, as in making quick decisions without organization of thought and facts? Isn't that the opposite of being psycho?
You guys make it difficult for me to follow along. I feel the feminazi oppression of your minds has weakend your ability to consider others opinions and beliefs as being plausible.
Ask your Mom's what they think about the subject, I'm certain they will agree with you.

 

[Stay Gel^N 247]

Folks, we're lowering ourselves to getting personal. The mods will close the thread for certain if this continues. Sometimes it's better to simply ignore the posts from an instigator rather than react to them... I'm as guilty as most with regard to 'reacting' though. This thread is no exception, though I've tried to avoid being accusatory... as much as I wanted to be.

Instigation of an argument with the intent of seeking the opinions and facts that others have to more clearly understand the subject at hand? Isn't that the purpose of the thread?
A one sided discussion without subjectivity, and addressing the facts and opinions of others is called propaganda.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

You're right Brown Thumb. If people want this unique thread to continue, then we have to tow the line (myself included). Our "friend" here is pushing for a response so he can reply and continue to control this thread. If he's ignored he'll get frustrated and become more and more outlandish in his attempts... which will eventually bring the hammer down.

Do we have the restraint?

 

[brown_thumb]

On another forum which I frequent (unrelated to cannabis) there's a member who believes he is one of the 'elite' individuals who should be allowed to vote, while most others should not be allowed to vote due to lack of intelligence. He is so arrogant that no one can get through to him. If others were to let loose with what we really think of his ideals, the thread would most certainly be shut down.

Elitism, bigotism, closed-mindedness, rudeness, etc. should not be tolerated on any civilized public forum.

 

[brown_thumb]

Yes, as intelligent adults, we have the restraint. We just need to keep our wits if we drink a bit too much and stop posting. Umm... I'm guilty of failing at that too.

 

[yesum]

It used to be such a great thread from open minded souls, what happened? hahahaha

 

[brown_thumb]

So... what will Trump do, assuming he's in office long enough to do anything? What might Pence do should he take over?

 

[Stay Gel^N 247]

As a republican capitalist, the title of the thread is concerning to me. I already know the stance of trump and sessions towards cannabis and towards their jobs as politicians. They will follow the will of the people based upon the laws and regulations we as citizens put into place.
To believe rebelling against them will force them to our will is ludacris. The balance of power that was created by our for-fathers as the Constitution, can be interpreted in many ways. As such, only if we work together to further our goals will we succeed. But I think legalization is not the intent of those currently profit from cannabis. I myself don't profit from cannabis.
As nice as it would be to get a president that accepts cannabis the way we accept it, and remove the current scheduling/regulations of prohibition, in this generation, would be political suicide. As we show the older generations that this plant is not only a medicine, but is safe for the general public to use, will take time. Or we wait for them all to die off, but those same people are our family members. Educating them to accept the safety and benefits of the plant, in my opinion, is the peaceful method of creating a common understanding.
I believe we should continue to prove that cannabis is safe and that those using/profiting from it are decent people, capable of living withing the laws of our nation and only standing up for our rights as people if the plant.

 

[subrob]

Folks, we're lowering ourselves to getting personal. The mods will close the thread for certain if this continues. Sometimes it's better to simply ignore the posts from an instigator rather than react to them... I'm as guilty as most with regard to 'reacting' though. This thread is no exception, though I've tried to avoid being accusatory... as much as I wanted to be.

I was with you for a moment...til I read his next posts...ha...I will take a break for a couple days and see if I can put him behind...

 

[Jhhnn]

As a republican capitalist, the title of the thread is concerning to me. I already know the stance of trump and sessions towards cannabis and towards their jobs as politicians. They will follow the will of the people based upon the laws and regulations we as citizens put into place.
To believe rebelling against them will force them to our will is ludacris. The balance of power that was created by our for-fathers as the Constitution, can be interpreted in many ways. As such, only if we work together to further our goals will we succeed. But I think legalization is not the intent of those currently profit from cannabis. I myself don't profit from cannabis.
As nice as it would be to get a president that accepts cannabis the way we accept it, and remove the current scheduling/regulations of prohibition, in this generation, would be political suicide. As we show the older generations that this plant is not only a medicine, but is safe for the general public to use, will take time. Or we wait for them all to die off, but those same people are our family members. Educating them to accept the safety and benefits of the plant, in my opinion, is the peaceful method of creating a common understanding.
I believe we should continue to prove that cannabis is safe and that those using/profiting from it are decent people, capable of living withing the laws of our nation and only standing up for our rights as people if the plant.

The part about a president favoring legalization being political suicide isn't accurate at all. ~60% of adults favor legalization. Google "marijuana legalization poll". Support for MMJ is overwhelming, in excess of 80% Google "medical marijuana poll".

Despite a lot of opposition in 2012 the Colorado state govt has done a complete 180 & will fight to keep legalization if push comes to shove. They're trying to turn stupid when it comes to caregivers & small time operations, however. I seriously doubt that those efforts can pass constitutional muster, however.

Meanwhile, truly personal growers like myself sail on, safe from everybody other than the likes of Jeff Sessions.

 

[Orrie]

I'm interested in what recommendations the newly appointed Task force will be giving on or before July 27th.
Marijuana sentencing and asset forfeiture are on the table

https://assets.documentcloud.org/do...y-General-Jeff-Sessions-Memo-US-Attorneys.pdf

 

[Orrie]

the stuff that makes them easy money