Trump threatens medical cannabis

[topheavy420]

Do you believe he has more or less supporters now than during the campaign? Or the same number,?
Media savvy or not do you believe our country will be better off for having him as president for 4 years?
I enjoy your posts ...we don't agree on much but I'm curious to hear simple answers to these questions

Likewise subrob. But your pulling me off center bud!

He deffinately has less supporters today. 2020? Only if the economy is booming and lots of infastructure is going up will he have more supporters than 2016.

I think the division has always been there but amplified by polarizing guys like Obama and trump and fueled by an overload media. So no, I don't think it will be better. But will it be any worse?

 

[resin_lung]

Really? You don't like my point about trump and trump supporters being loyal to each other so you roll out the nazi stuff... pffft!

What point about trump did you make?

who says I don't like what you said about " trump supporters"?

As far as nazis go, I may have showed you the way but you took it there. But if the shoe fits......fuk it!

I think it's bizarre that he still needs support after "America" elected Him.... or whatever. but I don't mind their loyalty to him or yours. I actually prefer it. Best if the diehards all go down with the ship anyways, at least suffer the most, for the longest.

Did you ever see Inglorious Bastards? "So, you gonna burn that there uniform after the war?." Kinda feel similar. The general population that was fooled and realized it should be forgiven if they'd like it, but the trusty road dogs should get something they'd never take off.

I don't know what your saying about trump supporters being loyal to each other? That's laughable! The republicans in congress don't even support each other!lol

Please stop. Before you wake yourself up. Realitys gonna suck, believe me! It's sux for me and I hate him! It would have to be unbearable if I actually had faith in him.

 

[subrob]

Likewise subrob. But your pulling me off center bud!

He deffinately has less supporters today. 2020? Only if the economy is booming and lots of infastructure is going up will he have more supporters than 2016.

I think the division has always been there but amplified by polarizing guys like Obama and trump and fueled by an overload media. So no, I don't think it will be better. But will it be any worse?

This is an entire post by a trump supporter I can agree with
But I don't even consider 2020 an option for him
Matter a fact I hope he doesn't get impeached cuz I want my "quit for heLth reason" prediction to win the day!

 

[armedoldhippy]

Do you believe he has more or less supporters now than during the campaign? Or the same number,?
Media savvy or not do you believe our country will be better off for having him as president for 4 years?
I enjoy your posts ...we don't agree on much but I'm curious to hear simple answers to these questions

he has fewer, and we are already the laughing stock of the century; the nation that elected a money-grubbing thug to its highest office.

 

[watts]

trumps 1st international visit is to saudi arabia, israel, and the vatican... talk about puppet

 

[BudToaster]

i am so tired of seeing us lefties running around like our hair is on fire over what Trump does ... take the ice bucket challenge, for goodness sake ...

no, instead the lefties should come out with the big ask: single payer health care for everyone, no questions asked. we can do this.

And ignore the trump show - R's just want to end government as we know it.

 

[Orrie]

Its okay

the truth is 'coming out'

 

[Stay Gel^N 247]

Med check
So the thousands of convos you've had is what led you to assume I'm native? With all the signs of 'psycho' your exhibiting for some reason I'm just dying to know your reasoning for assuming I'm native? Was it just a random neuron firing off or was it something I said...not insulted or upset just so damn curious!
But since I did say I would engage w you:
As far as secession goes...I've grown up around that
We had Wally world and the lingering attitude in Alaska...Hickel was a riot
I rooted for the French in Quebec
Fascinating idea but I don't think it's feasible

I was thinking I saw you write that you are native, but it was someone else that said that. Typically it's the natives and the people the natives bought or scared into submission who are the ones to argue with me about my studies. This is a war zone here in Northern California, Obama was considered weak by the tribes. The tribes use that feeling of strength to further their goals of domination for the advancement of their own people and culture. They are doing their best to place a stranglehold on marijuana as more people come here to grow it. Like a Mafia.
I am very psycho, as in, I think clearly and subjectively without feelings towards the subjects I study. I've been an amateur scientist since middle school, when the scientific method was first taught to me.

This relates to Trump and the laws that pertain to cannabis culture here in the USA. As the natives fear Trump, the freedom of the growers here will expand. You will no longer have to pay off the tribal Mafia to be able to stay here and grow.
If you come to Northern California, know what you will be facing here. Decide if you want your family subjected to their way of life. If you disagree with their influence, they will take everything from you, your spouse, your children, your business, your land, anything they can get from you. That is their way of life.
Don't fear them and don't allow them on your land. They are taught from birth to further the goals of the tribes, they are the truly psycho. Without feelings towards others and without moral values as most people who are raised around Christianity believe every person has.

Sounds to me as maybe you don't have their influence on your life. But the other motorcycle enthusiasts who are originally from Southern California, they do have that influence.

Take care my brotha!

 

[gaiusmarius]

@ Stay Gel^`N 247

i don't really get what you are saying here. nor does it have anything to do with this thread even in the expanded subject matter now being discussed. i'm sure the tribes have their criminals, just like every community has criminals, not sure what that has to do with Trump though. in fact it's bordering on being insulting, at least to any law abiding tribe member. in the end generalizing people is always factually incorrect. people are diverse, there are good bad and everything in between in all races and sexes for that matter.

 

[Stay Gel^N 247]

@ Stay Gel^`N 247

i don't really get what you are saying here. nor does it have anything to do with this thread even in the expanded subject matter now being discussed. i'm sure the tribes have their criminals, just like every community has criminals, not sure what that has to do with Trump though. in fact it's bordering on being insulting, at least to any law abiding tribe member. in the end generalizing people is always factually incorrect. people are diverse, there are good bad and everything in between in all races and sexes for that matter.

I realize saying these things would be offensive to someone with Christian values. But the people I'm talking about do not have those feelings and values. To them what I say only costs them money, because to educate someone to what they are doing helps to protect Christians from a culture they don't understand and may not want.
I believe this does relate to Trump and sessions, as they are the ones backing up the Constitution and enforcing the laws of our culture which are based on Christian beliefs.
If it wasn't for the fact that criminals profit from marijuana, marijuana would be legalized already. If you remember the reason marijuana was demonized and prohibited, according to the records of Congress, was because Mexicans and African Americans were using marijuana to get women high and make them promiscuous. I don't want to blame other races and cultures for prohibition, but that is the reason that Congress believed. Those actions are against the teachings of Christianity, and as such are deemed illegal activities. That was back when we had laws based upon moral values, as one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Let's make American great again!

 

[brown_thumb]

Stay Gel^N...

I've known many Native Americans and all have been very good decent people... with the exception of one abusive control freak asshole. But all kinds of folks have those types. What you're describing in Northern California is a localized Social/Cultural structure and they are the exception to the norm. It's wrong to incriminate all peoples of one ethnicity as the same... either good or bad.

All Native American cultures most certainly are not the same.

In some groups, you and I would be consider 'White Devils'. Those people don't know either of us... but our inner spirits show themselves in what we say, write and do.

 

[gaiusmarius]

@ Stay Gel^N...

thats way over simplified. the textile, oil and paper industry wanted hemp gone. the excuses for it where that it made black males want to have sex with white females and apparently white females were not averse either lol. anyway, there are some great documentaries that explain the historical narrative and how hemp was criminalized and why. lets just say those advocating the criminalizing had a massive conflict of interest.

 

[armedoldhippy]

I believe this does relate to Trump and sessions, as they are the ones backing up the Constitution and enforcing the laws of our culture which are based on Christian beliefs.
If it wasn't for the fact that criminals profit from marijuana, marijuana would be legalized already. If you remember the reason marijuana was demonized and prohibited, according to the records of Congress, was because Mexicans and African Americans were using marijuana to get women high and make them promiscuous. I don't want to blame other races and cultures for prohibition, but that is the reason that Congress believed. Those actions are against the teachings of Christianity, and as such are deemed illegal activities. That was back when we had laws based upon moral values, as one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Let's make American great again!

cannabis was made illegal so that white America had a stick to beat other races & cultures with. Congress never really believed the horseshit (nor did Anslinger) but it gave them a weapon so they went along. Trump & Sessions enforce any law that allows them to discriminate against folks that disagree with them for any reason. actions against Christian teachings have little or nothing to do with US law. damn near anything against our laws is illegal everywhere simply because it is WRONG, not because Christians are morally superior to other religions. this country has NEVER truly been indivisible with liberty & justice for all. open your eyes, watch the news, read a history book or two for Gods sake!

 

[brown_thumb]

thats way over simplified. the textile, oil and paper industry wanted hemp gone. the excuses for it where that it made black males want to have sex with white females and apparently white females were not averse either lol. anyway, there are some great documentaries that explain the historical narrative and how hemp was criminalized and why. lets just say those advocating the criminalizing had a massive conflict of interest.

I'm not sure what you're insinuating, gaius, but I'm a pasty-white gringo/cracker. Just because I am indeed those things doesn't make me, nor the majority of those like me, stereotypical White Devils. My ancestry is Scottish and Irish and my ancestors suffered much the same crap as many other cultures, not only in the old countries but here in the USA too.

We DON'T WANT the Irish!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boO4RowROiw

 

[Borderliner]

actions against Christian teachings have little or nothing to do with US law. damn near anything against our laws is illegal everywhere simply because it is WRONG, not because Christians are morally superior to other religions.

The State of Maryland was formed in part because of religious persecution against Catholics and is now considered the birthplace of religious freedom in the USA.

 

[gaiusmarius]

with all due respect Brownthumb, maybe just stick to what i actually said rather then what you think i am "insinuating." this was a response about the origins of the cannabis war, nothing else. like walking on hot coals some times, don't look for offense when none was remotely intended please.

edited to add, i was actually responding to StaynGel, have made it clearer in the above post. sorry for any misunderstanding.

 

[brown_thumb]

Sorry, gaius. I thought you were responding to my post. Mea culpa.

 

[Spaventa]

All these points are valid. Cannabis is criminalised to serve a multitude of corrupt agendas - as many as there are uses for cannabis.
The powerful few remain so by controlling the supply and price of all resources. They control, corner and manipulate all markets and trade just as they do all human affairs.
Cannabis is a very important one, like fuel, you can deny it, restrict it, tax it ...without catastrophe or revolt (unlike water, food, shelter) BUT it has a huge impact.

One day, it will be acknowledged that cannabinoids are a nutritional requirement for humans, without which we don't live as healthily or happily or as long. Cannabinoid deficiency should be recognised and treated with supplements.

 

[Jhhnn]

I have to agree with armedoldhippy about the origins of cannabis prohibition. It was very much due to a crusade by Harry Anslinger, an avowed racist & bigot, & not really about money or business. It was the era of Jim Crow, anti-semitism, father Coughlin & resurgent White Supremacy fanned by the rhetoric of Hitler & the German American Bund. It was sold as an instrument of racial & cultural oppression of black & brown people, plain & simple.

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes_by/harry+j.+anslinger

Nixon used it the same way, just added Hippies to the target list.

Sessions draws on that heritage today in his own pandering to White Culture Warriors.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Harry Anslinger was human scum...


Harry Anslinger's Role In Billie Holiday's Death;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3UcqSpq1Zk


Billie Holiday; Strange Fruit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Web007rzSOI

with lyrics subtitles;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHGAMjwr_j8