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Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

armedoldhippy

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don't ANY of the folks that associate with The Chump/work for him read the news or watch it in tv? they literally stand in line to be denied, maligned, mocked, and flung...
 

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HempKat

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I saw some of this interview. To say Christie is two faced would be an understatement. On size alone he could get four. He called Chump out on his previous run, then he turned into an ass kisser after Chump won, and still got screwed out of any appointments. He continued to kiss ass hoping something would come his way and it did not. Now he's back to being a half truther and lying about Biden. Overall, I'd say he is a POS.
Yeah I wouldn't argue with any of the points you made just now but I wouldn't argue with the points he made about Trump in that Town Hall either. Trump is doing everything he's doing because his ego refuses to allow him to accept that he lost in 2020 to Biden. Trump is also solely responsible for all the division going on in our politics and Trump is solely responsible for the destruction of the GOP, which on the surface might sound great to someone who supports the Democratic party but it isn't because having a viable opposition party helps to keep things in check rather then a party getting too full of itself and becoming overrun by corruption.
 

buzzmobile

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Yeah I wouldn't argue with any of the points you made just now but I wouldn't argue with the points he made about Trump in that Town Hall either. Trump is doing everything he's doing because his ego refuses to allow him to accept that he lost in 2020 to Biden. Trump is also solely responsible for all the division going on in our politics and Trump is solely responsible for the destruction of the GOP, which on the surface might sound great to someone who supports the Democratic party but it isn't because having a viable opposition party helps to keep things in check rather then a party getting too full of itself and becoming overrun by corruption.
I was ok with it until he started trash talking Biden. Christie did call out Chump, but as said, if Chump won he would be right back to kissing ass. Biden has done ok in a tough adversarial environment and way more than his predecessor.
 

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Echo chambers ?

What's not to like ? A bone spur, college cheating, pussy grabbing, raper, tax cheating, worn out porn star fucker, who pals up with the two worlds worst dictators and steals the nations secrets after he gets his "model" (we know what that means) wife an Einstein visa after she worked here illegally. Then there are some people are incapable of seeing that. I guess that's both sides.
 
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buzzmobile

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I guess that's both sides.
Insert trump/trump's @ appropriate strikethroughs

Rows and flows of angel hair
And ice cream castles in the air
And feather canyons everywhere
Looked at clouds that way
But now they only block the sun
They rain and they snow on everyone
So many things I would have done
But clouds got in my way
I've looked at clouds from both sides now
From up and down and still somehow
It's cloud illusions I recall
I really don't know clouds at all
Moons and Junes and Ferris wheels
The dizzy dancing way that you feel
As every fairy tale comes real
I've looked at love that way
But now it's just another show
And you leave 'em laughing when you go
And if you care, don't let them know
Don't give yourself away
I've looked at love from both sides now
From give and take and still somehow
It's love's illusions that I recall
I really don't know love
Really don't know love at all
Tears and fears and feeling proud
To say, "I love you" right out loud
Dreams and schemes and circus crowds
I've looked at life that way
Oh, but now old friends they're acting strange
And they shake their heads and they tell me that I've changed
Well something's lost, but something's gained
In living every day
I've looked at life from both sides now
From win and lose and still somehow
It's life's illusions I recall
I really don't know life at all
It's life's illusions that I recall
I really don't know life
I really don't know life at all
 

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I always liked Joni. Tough to mixer her with something so slimy, vile and pernicious.

The list gets longer, Lawyer stiffer dirtbag, election fraudster, cheesey spray on suntanned golf cheater, gold plated business failure, fat bastard scum, purveyor of bogus college degrees and crappy steaks.
 
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armedoldhippy

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I always liked Joni. Tough to mixer her with something so slimy, vile and pernicious.

The list gets longer, Lawyer stiffer dirtbag, election fraudster, cheesey spray on suntanned golf cheater, gold plated business failure, fat bastard scum, purveyor of bogus college degrees and crappy steaks.
stop beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel! don't sugarcoat shit , we aint buying it! :love:(y)his utter disdain for reality and the law makes me wonder if he's not a lawyer of some sort, maybe has a law degree from Chump U. ???
 

Microbeman

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Trump university and the non-payment of many small businesses [dry wallers, plumbers] should be enough to quell the enthusiasm of MAGATS, yet no; he talks like us - we love the under educated.
 

HempKat

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I was ok with it until he started trash talking Biden. Christie did call out Chump, but as said, if Chump won he would be right back to kissing ass. Biden has done ok in a tough adversarial environment and way more than his predecessor.
Well of course he's going to trash talk Biden he's running for the Republican nomination and all the hopes of the Republican party are pinned on blaming everything wrong right now on Biden even if they know it's not true. Besides Christie once tried to do the honorable thing and gave Obama praise for his disaster response to a hurricane and he caught a lot of grief from fellow republicans for it. To be completely fair though Democrats have been known to do the same thing to Republican incumbants although they're not quite as bad about it. That's one of my biggest gripes about how campaigns are run. I don't want to hear someone's opinion of how badly a politician has screwed up, I can make that accessment for myself what I want to hear from a candidate is two things. First I want to hear them correctly identify the problems the country is facing and two I want to hear in detail what they are going to do to solve that problem. That's it, anything else is just noise.
 
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HempKat

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The feds don’t indict anyone and lose the case.

Trumps best bet is a biden pardon, or the off chance the Supreme Court rules the espionage act unconstitutional.

The espionage act was written to imprison anti war leftists without them actually committing espionage.
Actually Trump's best bet is if the judge he appointed, Judge Aileen "Loose" Cannon, who will be presiding over this historic case that has no real precedents and who is totally unqualified to preside over because she has only sat in judgement for 4 very simple felonies with a grand total of 14 trial hours under her belt, refuses to recuse herself. If she manages to stay n place over this case and make similar absurd motions like she did in the beginning then there is the very real potential she can drag this case out until after the 2024 election is over and if anyone but Biden or some other Democrat wins, then Trump will likely get his pardon.
 
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Hiddenjems

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Actually Trump's best bet is if the judge he appointed, who will be presiding over this historic case that has no real precedents and who is totally unqualified to preside over because she has only sat in judgement for 4 very simple felonies with a grand total of 14 trial hours under her belt, refuses to recuse herself. If she manages to stay n place over this case and make similar absurd motions like she did in the beginning then there is the very real potential she can drag this case out until after the 2024 election is over and if anyone but Biden or some other Democrat wins, then Trump will likely get his pardon.
That’s part of the off chance the Supreme Court rules the espionage act unconstitutional. It starts with the current judge making strange rulings.

This was part of the original espionage act, it’s been repealed, but I think the original intent of the law is clear.

“The Sedition Act of 1918 (Pub. L. 65–150, 40 Stat. 553, enacted May 16, 1918) was an Act of the United States Congress that extended the Espionage Act of 1917 to cover a broader range of offenses, notably speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort in a negative light or interfered with the sale of government bonds.”
 

HempKat

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That’s part of the off chance the Supreme Court rules the espionage act unconstitutional. It starts with the current judge making strange rulings.

This was part of the original espionage act, it’s been repealed, but I think the original intent of the law is clear.

“The Sedition Act of 1918 (Pub. L. 65–150, 40 Stat. 553, enacted May 16, 1918) was an Act of the United States Congress that extended the Espionage Act of 1917 to cover a broader range of offenses, notably speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort in a negative light or interfered with the sale of government bonds.”
You're over thinking it. First of all none of that is necessary. The charges he's guilty of are part of laws currently in place and are well established law concerning the handling of national defense documents. Most of it is open and shut based on the documents being found in Trump's possession and Trump on video and audio openly admitting he took them and tried to keep them and in at least one case admitting he knew they were not his to keep. All of which is because he totally misunderstands the Presidential Records Act and falsely believes the Presidential Records act allows him to basically claim any document he wants to claim as his personal property. Which should be obvious to anyone with the slightest understanding of the history of Watergate and what then President Nixon was attempting to do with government records. The law he's getting wrong was created because of the Watergate Scandel and is meant to help make sure things like that don't happen and it actually does the exact opposite of what he is claiming everytime he openly confesses to his crimes. The law does not required the documents to be classified or declassified nor does it require any proof that he did or intended to share the information with anyone else. Although one of the recordings they have as evidence clearly has him showing the information to someone not authorized to see it.

The only thing Judge Aileen "Loose" Cannon can do is delay things by entertaining every claim the defense tries to make even though everyone knows it won't go anywhere. She's not even a major threat because there are steps that the DOJ could take to get her removed from the case if they wanted to but for now it looks like they're not trying to go that route in order to avoid any possible perception of unfair treatment.

What is most particularly sad and pathetic about the whole affair is that it all could have been as easily avoid as it was for both Pence and Biden. Except Trump's ego made it impossible for him to be told what he can and can not do and most likely because he just wanted to hang on to these things for bragging rights and because he though it made him look cool. Yet this is the buffoon and total Moron that the Republican Party wants to tie themselves to. If it weren't for the potential chance that Trump might some how manage to get reelected (which currently seems virtually impossible) and the harm he could do if that were to somehow happen I bet the democrats would be tempted to just let Trump destroy what's left of the republican party.
 
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