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Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

GOT_BUD?

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I do wonder about the Biden nomination
Biden wasn't that enthused about being POTUS at this stage of his life imho
he answered the call because he was needed bad
now just suppose the dems are trying to set up an exciting primary season
it climaxes with someone fresh and exciting, Biden has some brand and that adds to the moment
then Biden plays the gracious loser, I can smell the love already
Bwahahaha!!!!!

You so funny!!!
 

HempKat

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I think she's a deal breaker, I don't have any more issues with her than other politicos
but this is a 'Hillary' situation, Harris would fair no better against Trump than Hillary, probably worse
the big Democrats up top seem to be aware of her weak appeal
so I suspect it will be an interesting democrat process
As near as i can tell from talking with black friends she wouldn't have the black vote and that's usually a deal breaker in Democratic primaries. Now she could potentially turn that around but she would have to do a lot of big things. From the people i've talked to their main gripe with her is that she just hasn't done anything of value to justify her becoming president. I doubt she could do enough between now and 2024 to change that view so Biden would have to win 2024 with her remaining VP to buy her enough time to change peoples minds. The only problem with that though is that if Biden kept her on the ticket that couldd have a negative impact on his chances for 2024. The only other wy i could see her making it is if Biden passes away while still president. Again though if she wanted any hope of staying president she would really need to get busy pleasing people. if she manage to spearhead total marijuana reform by descheduling it and getting it legalized nationwide on the Federal level that would likely change alot of people's minds about her but given her past reord as a District Attorney, towards marijuana that doesn't seem very likely.
 

HempKat

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2028? Porter/Raskin would be a pretty good combo. That'd be a fun one.
I'd love to see somethng like that happen. I kind of doubt it will but if it did they would definitely shake things up in some major ways.
 

GOT_BUD?

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As near as i can tell from talking with black friends she wouldn't have the black vote and that's usually a deal breaker in Democratic primaries. Now she could potentially turn that around but she would have to do a lot of big things. From the people i've talked to their main gripe with her is that she just hasn't done anything of value to justify her becoming president. I doubt she could do enough between now and 2024 to change that view so Biden would have to win 2024 with her remaining VP to buy her enough time to change peoples minds. The only problem with that though is that if Biden kept her on the ticket that couldd have a negative impact on his chances for 2024. The only other wy i could see her making it is if Biden passes away while still president. Again though if she wanted any hope of staying president she would really need to get busy pleasing people. if she manage to spearhead total marijuana reform by descheduling it and getting it legalized nationwide on the Federal level that would likely change alot of people's minds about her but given her past reord as a District Attorney, towards marijuana that doesn't seem very likely.
You know that will never happen. Between her and Joe we have two of the staunchest anti-legalization democrats in Washington.

There is nothing Kamala can do that would change people's minds about her. She runs for President again she'll drop out after the third or fourth primary just like 2020.
 

armedoldhippy

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Harris' time as a prosecutor sets well with NOBODY on the liberal side of the aisle. Biden would be better off with a different VEEP so if he was incapacitated, the world wouldn't be holding its breath. but would that turn off Black voters, who pushed him over the finish line & saved the D's in Georgia? it's not that Harris is female or black, (for me anyway) it's that she was a prosecutor. yeah, i know we need them, but we don't need them in the White House or anywhere near the controls of power. JMHO
 

GOT_BUD?

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Harris' time as a prosecutor sets well with NOBODY on the liberal side of the aisle. Biden would be better off with a different VEEP so if he was incapacitated, the world wouldn't be holding its breath. but would that turn off Black voters, who pushed him over the finish line & saved the D's in Georgia? it's not that Harris is female or black, (for me anyway) it's that she was a prosecutor. yeah, i know we need them, but we don't need them in the White House or anywhere near the controls of power. JMHO
If he wants to fill that position with someone who doesn't have the baggage of Harris, he should look at Stacey Abrams. She checks all the same boxes and people actually like her. Plus she's a demonstrably good person. I'd be excited for that ticket. And so would a LOT of others.

But again, never gonna happen.
 

armedoldhippy

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he should look at Stacey Abrams.
she was my first thought. Biden is not gonna toss Harris. that does not mean that she couldn't be talked into leaving of her own accord, taking one for the team (country)...:chin: she would rack up some good will with party insiders (and voters) for future consideration of other positions.
 

HempKat

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Harris' time as a prosecutor sets well with NOBODY on the liberal side of the aisle. Biden would be better off with a different VEEP so if he was incapacitated, the world wouldn't be holding its breath. but would that turn off Black voters, who pushed him over the finish line & saved the D's in Georgia? it's not that Harris is female or black, (for me anyway) it's that she was a prosecutor. yeah, i know we need them, but we don't need them in the White House or anywhere near the controls of power. JMHO
Well I would particularly care about a Politician having been a prosecutor in the past as long as they were a fair and reasonable one. The problem with Harris though, according to people living in California at the time, Fair and Reasonable were two terms that did not apply to her.
 

HempKat

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If he wants to fill that position with someone who doesn't have the baggage of Harris, he should look at Stacey Abrams. She checks all the same boxes and people actually like her. Plus she's a demonstrably good person. I'd be excited for that ticket. And so would a LOT of others.

But again, never gonna happen.
I like Stacey and yeah she would make a good VP but I don't think she would be a good choice to go on the ticket with Biden because despite her popularity she lost both of the last two political races she was in. So obviously there are a good amount who don't like her. Another one that would be interesting but woulld never happen is AOC. If nothing else I'd like to see that happen just for how much it would piss off so many Congressional Republicans Who was that weirdo that did the fantasy murder video of her? His head would probably explode. That would be fun to watch.
 

GOT_BUD?

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I like Stacey and yeah she would make a good VP but I don't think she would be a good choice to go on the ticket with Biden because despite her popularity she lost both of the last two political races she was in. So obviously there are a good amount who don't like her. Another one that would be interesting but woulld never happen is AOC. If nothing else I'd like to see that happen just for how much it would piss off so many Congressional Republicans Who was that weirdo that did the fantasy murder video of her? His head would probably explode. That would be fun to watch.
Stacey is a metric fuckton more likable than Kamala. And I don't think it's a case of people not liking her but the fact she was a woman of color running in Georgia. And while Georgia technically did turn blue last election, it wasn't by much.
 

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I like Stacey and yeah she would make a good VP but I don't think she would be a good choice to go on the ticket with Biden because despite her popularity she lost both of the last two political races she was in. So obviously there are a good amount who don't like her. Another one that would be interesting but woulld never happen is AOC. If nothing else I'd like to see that happen just for how much it would piss off so many Congressional Republicans Who was that weirdo that did the fantasy murder video of her? His head would probably explode. That would be fun to watch.
 

armedoldhippy

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Stacey is a metric fuckton more likable than Kamala. And I don't think it's a case of people not liking her but the fact she was a woman of color running in Georgia. And while Georgia technically did turn blue last election, it wasn't by much.
if she had been a GOPer, they would have hoisted her on their shoulders & carried her around. but being Black, female, AND a Democrat was more than they could stand...in Georgia. i think she might be more popular around the country than her home state.
 

HempKat

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Stacey is a metric fuckton more likable than Kamala. And I don't think it's a case of people not liking her but the fact she was a woman of color running in Georgia. And while Georgia technically did turn blue last election, it wasn't by much.
Oh I agree she's way more likeable then Harris. Harris is only being mentioned because she is already the VP and so that gives her a slight edge on running for President. No doubt Stacy Abrams would get more done though that would be meaningful to democratic and left leaning independant voters. Alas too many voters don't really look at what the candidate pledges to do but rather goes by name recognition. If a woman of color can't win in Georgia then it would seem unlikely she would win nationwide for the same reason. I'm not saying that's right, in fact it's incredibly sad. i thought we moved past skin color after obama but apparently not.
 
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