Trump administration hints at ‘greater enforcement’ of marijuana laws

[HazyBulldog]

I'll agree with the last paragraph but not the first. All we need to do is look at Trump's budget proposals to see the falsity of it. Repubs have no intention of protecting the weakest & most vulnerable among us, or of supporting things that enrich us all rather than just the financial elite. That's beyond obvious despite the usual "They're just as Bad!" routine.

The weakest and most vulnerable among us? Like unborn children? Seems the left is the one killing unborn babies right? WHo are you referring to?

 

[Cannavore]

lol, now socialism never existed..... lol.

I am rolling over here. too funny. You are not being serous though right?

so·cial·ism
ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/Submit
noun
political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms: leftism, welfarism; More
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

no country on planet earth has ever put the means of production and ownership into the hands of the working class.

 

[HazyBulldog]

no country on planet earth has ever put the means of production and ownership into the hands of the working class.

O really. Tell us more of this fantasy world you live in....... I would argue, America has. In fact, it's what made America great. It's what needs to happen to make America great again. The entire political system that America revolutionized the planet also brings the power to the people. Weird perspective you have.

 

[Cannavore]

so mcdonalds workers own mcdonalds? walmart? GM? ect ect ect?

they also must choose to pay themselves barely enough to survive too, right? nah.

 

[HazyBulldog]

No, the owners of Mc Donalds own Mc D's. Not the government. WHy would the workers own it? Does that not sound perverted to you? Also, why would a mc d worker need more money? That isn't a career job? Nor should it ever be considered one.


You see Venezuela just raised the minimum wage....... Echos of socialism everywhere.

 

[Jhhnn]

The weakest and most vulnerable among us? Like unborn children? Seems the left is the one killing unborn babies right? WHo are you referring to?

Dodging, huh? Of course you are. What I said is true. You know it, which is why you're running away from it.

 

[HazyBulldog]

Dodging, huh? Of course you are. What I said is true. You know it, which is why you're running away from it.

No, in fact what you said was not true. Can you name a human more vulnerable than an unborn child? Didn't think so..........

Of course men not allowed in girls bathrooms cause they feel like a girl are a close second..........

 

[Cannavore]

No, the owners of Mc Donalds own Mc D's. Not the government.

How do we go from private ownership to worker ownership to government ownership? Again, state ownership is basically an extreme form of statism, ie - state capitalism.

WHy would the workers own it?

because that's what socialism is lol

Does that not sound perverted to you?

i'm not a socialist, just trying to lay it out clear because almost every one that talks about this has it wrong. i think the idea of having "democratic workplaces or worker co-op's" is an interesting idea though.

Also, why would a mc d worker need more money? That isn't a career job? Nor should it ever be considered one.

in today's economy it is. sad truth.

You see Venezuela just raised the minimum wage....... Echos of socialism everywhere.

lol huh? so raising the minimum wage in a general sense is socialist?

 

[HazyBulldog]

Shee-it, Sherlock- Repubs will cut funding for Big Bird, Meals on Wheels & a plethora of other useful programs to cut billionaires' taxes & bury more death in the desert in the form of military spending.

So big bird needs federal money?

Meals on wheels he took away budget increases........

and other stuff you can't name.........

Just crazy talk. I wish my life was so simple that taking away big birds money pissed me off.......... Issues like abortion take the back seat. I had my parents murder my sister, but that isn't a big deal. Big Bird funding however, stop the world NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[HazyBulldog]

How do we go from private ownership to worker ownership to government ownership? Again, state ownership is basically an extreme form of statism, ie - state capitalism.


because that's what socialism is lol


i'm not a socialist, just trying to lay it out clear because almost every one that talks about this has it wrong. i think the idea of having "democratic workplaces or worker co-op's" is an interesting idea though.


in today's economy it is. sad truth.

Thanks Obama!




lol huh? so raising the minimum wage in a general sense is socialist?

So your argument mirrors Marx then? No socialist society has ever existed, and can only exist in the fall of a capitalist system? That about right? (question marks are there cause I am asking, not implying anything)

 

[Cannavore]

no purely socialist society has ever existed, no. do we have elements of socialism in our economy and in many other countries? yeah. but i wouldn't go about referring to those countries as socialist.

bernie sanders for example kept calling one of the scandinavian countries socialist during his primary run... i think it was finland or denmark. anyways, the PM had to come out publicly and say that his country is not socialist. they are a capitalist country with a healthy welfare state. an appropriate mix of capitalism and socialism that does many things in their own country that make the US look like a pack of mongoloids.

 

[HazyBulldog]

I should also add, what happens in 20 years. No driving jobs, all taken by driver less cars. No taxis. No register people at home depot or grocery stores..........

I wonder if socialism will be a necessary tool for the future. With 50% unemployment rates given by the best in the industry as soon as 2030, we all should worry.

Back 100 years ago and more, people were more concered with getting water and food daily. Then things like construction became needed.......Well, what happens when computers do those jobs 100 times as fast? What do we do with all the extra people?

 

[HazyBulldog]

no purely socialist society has ever existed, no. do we have elements of socialism in our economy and in many other countries? yeah. but i wouldn't go about referring to those countries as socialist.

bernie sanders for example kept calling one of the scandinavian countries socialist during his primary run... i think it was finland or denmark. anyways, the PM had to come out publicly and say that his country is not socialist. they are a capitalist country with a healthy welfare state. an appropriate mix of capitalism and socialism that does many things in their own country that make the US look like a pack of mongoloids.

Well, I agree and respect that. Thanks for clearing that up. I do believe that socialism can be given value on how it's been implemented in places like Finland and Denmark, Venezuela and even the USA however.

 

[accessndx]

Lots of local dust-ups and shake-downs since Sessions and Trump hit the circuit.

Good job Trump voters.

Kill the environment, feed the rich fat-cats with tax breaks and opportunity galore, shit on marijuana and diversity.

So glad you didn't hire Hillary and her Wall Street cronies who are just a bunch of the same old guard.....

This new guard sure looks alot different, especially since all of his corporate cronies and buddies are helping him run the joint with his weirdo family.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

You should be embarrassed to allow an illiterate, ignorant, racist asshole with no designs on helping humanity into the White House. He's like a petulant child that can't wait to get his hands deeper into the cookie jar.

 

[igrowone]

I should also add, what happens in 20 years. No driving jobs, all taken by driver less cars. No taxis. No register people at home depot or grocery stores..........

I wonder if socialism will be a necessary tool for the future. With 50% unemployment rates given by the best in the industry as soon as 2030, we all should worry.

Back 100 years ago and more, people were more concered with getting water and food daily. Then things like construction became needed.......Well, what happens when computers do those jobs 100 times as fast? What do we do with all the extra people?

and there's the question, what do we do?
the welfare state exists for good reasons, unemployed and hungry people become dangerous
the current welfare is disability, once on it you likely can stay on it
is it a solution i like? not particularly
but the alternatives don't seem to be better

 

[Jhhnn]

No, in fact what you said was not true. Can you name a human more vulnerable than an unborn child? Didn't think so..........

Of course men not allowed in girls bathrooms cause they feel like a girl are a close second..........

And a double dodge away from the subject at hand.

 

[Cannavore]

I should also add, what happens in 20 years. No driving jobs, all taken by driver less cars. No taxis. No register people at home depot or grocery stores..........

I wonder if socialism will be a necessary tool for the future. With 50% unemployment rates given by the best in the industry as soon as 2030, we all should worry.

Back 100 years ago and more, people were more concered with getting water and food daily. Then things like construction became needed.......Well, what happens when computers do those jobs 100 times as fast? What do we do with all the extra people?

i hear a lot of people throwing around the idea of a Universal Basic Income. other countries are beginning to tinker with the idea. whether that's the way to go, or what, i don't know. i've never really entertained the idea before.

 

[packerfan79]

The government is not responsible for your well being, you are. You make poor choices, you deal with the fallout. The reason I support the funding cuts are simple waste. Pbs director makes hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. How much of the budget goes into political campaigns (why should tax payer money be wasted due to inefficiency). Private industry is profitable, government funded entities are not.

Socialism doesn't work for a very simple reason eventually you run out of other people's money. Drs. Aren't going to spend massive time and money on education to be taxed at 90%. Innovation dies when profit is taxed at high rates, eventually it descends into chaos. When people stop complying in comes government control of all industry, and forced policies, aka communism. I can't understand why people believe that the government (any government) would be more responsible with the people's money, than the people who work for the money.I guess I don't trust the government, which happens to be responsible for more death's than the combination of all illness, accidents, or natural disasters .

 

[Cannavore]

The government is not responsible for your well being, you are. You make poor choices, you deal with the fallout.

so for example someone that's born into a poor family that cannot afford a higher education, or health care is the fault of that child's poor choices?

Private industry is profitable, government funded entities are not.

health care and education for example should not be profit driven. and it shows. the US is ranked 39th in health care and probably in the same vicinity in education.

Socialism doesn't work for a very simple reason eventually you run out of other people's money.

socialism doesnt work yet no purely socialist country has ever existed. how does this work exactly? because the "socialist" programs here in the US are the most popular programs to ever exist (social security, medicare, medicaid)

Drs. Aren't going to spend massive time and money on education to be taxed at 90%.

i'm not even sure what this means. and no one is proposing a 90% tax rate.

Innovation dies when profit is taxed at high rates, eventually it descends into chaos.

zero proof of this.

When people stop complying in comes government control of all industry, and forced policies, aka communism.

socialism isn't communism, and that's not what communism is either, lmao.

I can't understand why people believe that the government (any government) would be more responsible with the people's money, than the people who work for the money.I guess I don't trust the government, which happens to be responsible for more death's than the combination of all illness, accidents, or natural disasters .

here's the difference. government can be reformed. private unaccountable businesses that operate solely to profit can not.

i want government health care, not government control of home depot and nike and best buy. the strawmen are real.




anyways this is what i'm talking about HazyBulldog. the flat out strawman against socialism, which isn't even an accurate critique of socialism in the first place. you guys gotta lay off the rush limbaugh and brietbart for real.

 

[packerfan79]

so for example someone that's born into a poor family that cannot afford a higher education, or health care is the fault of that child's poor choices?


health care and education for example should not be profit driven. and it shows. the US is ranked 39th in health care and probably in the same vicinity in education.


socialism doesnt work yet no purely socialist country has ever existed. how does this work exactly? because the "socialist" programs here in the US are the most popular programs to ever exist (social security, medicare, medicaid)


i'm not even sure what this means. and no one is proposing a 90% tax rate.


zero proof of this.



socialism isn't communism, and that's not what communism is either, lmao.


here's the difference. government can be reformed. private unaccountable businesses that operate solely to profit can not.

i want government health care, not government control of home depot and nike and best buy. the strawmen are real.




anyways this is what i'm talking about HazyBulldog. the flat out strawman against socialism, which isn't even an accurate critique of socialism in the first place. you guys gotta lay off the rush limbaugh and brietbart for real.

Cannavore with all due,respect you are wrong, you need to study history. If government were reformable don't you think it would have happened by now? The first government started with the greeks.If healthcare wasn't for profit polio would still kill people. heart transplant, brain surgery, cancer treatments, all created by private companies. Government doesn't create wealth, innovation, or anything else. Government takes taxes, freedoms, and most of all lives.The difference between the right and the left is the blind trust that the government knows what's best for the people vs the people know what's best. If monopolies are bad, the government is the biggest monopoly to ever exist.