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Trump administration hints at ‘greater enforcement’ of marijuana laws

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Meraxes

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and what does rearrange the executive branch mean?....Don't answer that, I don't want to know (packs)
 

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I am by no means a supporter of any politician, but am I wrong in thinking this could be a good thing in the end? Having laws on the books that aren't enforced is just asking for trouble. It leaves it open for any anti-cannabis "authority" to come in and wreck shit. Laws work both ways. Laws protect the grower/processor/dispensaries. People were afraid to speak out about cannabis before, but now the stigma has been broken. I think as soon as people see that a thriving industry and tax resource is in jeopardy there will be enough public outcry to finally actually make some serious change to the fed. It won't happen overnight but neither will their "crackdown". Just my optimistic opinion. Maybe I'm just looking for any positives in this.
 

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oh shit I decided to check back in and yet another thread I have to wonder if I will ever catch up on... I hate "rules are rules" types of people, but nonetheless, now more than ever I thank those that make the rules here and overlook the rules when the greater good is at hand.. this is a great thread and in these times with all going on personal and worldwide, we need to express ourselves in a constructive way, some have no other way, so thanks.
 

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a similar thread, mine, where I was trying to encourage talk only on cannabis issues, gets closed and this thread continues? Both should continue, and long time members deserve some respect we did things right for so long after all. why is this?
 

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a similar thread, mine, where I was trying to encourage talk only on cannabis issues, gets closed and this thread continues? Both should continue, and long time members deserve some respect we did things right for so long after all. why is this?

Don't take it personally. Once initiated, political threads take on a life of their own. When it turns ugly the mods shut it down. Don't blame them- blame the uglies for screwing it up.
 

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Politics is a ugly biz by nature. I took my car in for some service and the guy in the waiting area said they had to turn the tv news feed off because of the arguments over politics...
 

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I am a Trump voter, and I think sessions comments are absolutely ignorant concerning cannabis. I think most Evangelicals and some conservatives, are principled people or they try to be. The biggest hurdle we cannabis lovers face, concerning legalization is, these principles of no cannabis, are not rooted in fact. The right has a hard time accepting the fact that they are wrong on cannabis. It goes against everything the religious folks have been taught. Also, the guilt/ shame for locking people up for no legitimate reason, is hard for them to accept. The biggest mistake we make is talking shit to non cannabis people. We aren't going to change minds through confrontation. We need to change minds on a personal level. The more we act like the quintessential stupid lazy Stoner, the less we can change minds. I know we have a giant challenge ahead of us. If we can separate cannabis from the typical right vs. Left political bullshit, we may actually get some where. I find it intriguing that Obama had a chance to get this done, but he decided to kick it down the road to the next group of politicans The Cole memo was a temporary half ass attempt to appease stoners.
 

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We have a very similar (precisely the same?) issue with people ignorant of firearms ownership.

I agree brown, but the constitution is clear about firearms. The only problem there is people who want to change the bill of rights for political gain. The fact is its a very very small amount of law abiding gun owners will use there legally owned firearms in a manner that is dangerous.Things like cars, hammers, trains, and a thousand other items we use on a daily basis, that are responsible for a much larger percentage of death and injures. 80 % of gun crimes are drug related, thus not law abiding citizens.
 

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it's really simple, no president wants to be the stoner president
not obama, not trump. and so on
a lot like vietnam, no president wanted to be the one who lost it
so each administration deals with cannabis only as much as it has to
which gives us a paler shade of grey cannabis law each iteration
 

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I am a Trump voter, and I think sessions comments are absolutely ignorant concerning cannabis. I think most Evangelicals and some conservatives, are principled people or they try to be. The biggest hurdle we cannabis lovers face, concerning legalization is, these principles of no cannabis, are not rooted in fact. The right has a hard time accepting the fact that they are wrong on cannabis. It goes against everything the religious folks have been taught. Also, the guilt/ shame for locking people up for no legitimate reason, is hard for them to accept. The biggest mistake we make is talking shit to non cannabis people. We aren't going to change minds through confrontation. We need to change minds on a personal level. The more we act like the quintessential stupid lazy Stoner, the less we can change minds. I know we have a giant challenge ahead of us. If we can separate cannabis from the typical right vs. Left political bullshit, we may actually get some where. I find it intriguing that Obama had a chance to get this done, but he decided to kick it down the road to the next group of politicans The Cole memo was a temporary half ass attempt to appease stoners.

Presented with an unexpected opportunity to do the right thing, legalization in CO & WA, Obama did what he could w/o making it about him. He knew full well the implications & the long term effect of the Cole memo. Or he could have just pulled a Romney. He advanced the cause of legalization by years if not a decade.

Just say Thanks Obama & let it go at that.
 

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Presented with an unexpected opportunity to do the right thing, legalization in CO & WA, Obama did what he could w/o making it about him. He knew full well the implications & the long term effect of the Cole memo. Or he could have just pulled a Romney. He advanced the cause of legalization by years if not a decade.

Just say Thanks Obama & let it go at that.

Sorry Jhhnn, thanking Obama is one thing I will never do. He caused division never before seen in this country.
 

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Sorry Jhhnn, thanking Obama is one thing I will never do. He caused division never before seen in this country.

never before seen?

did he cause division or did he just expose the deep rooted racism in American culture?


The same racism and xenophobia that Trump used to rally his simple minded followers.
 

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The left calls anything and everything racist, it's all about name calling. It's not about race. The fact is it's really about taking responsibility for your own life, the black community is held back due to the destruction of the family 70%of black homes have no father. That has nothing to do with Trump. The Democratic party has been in power in most inner-city neighborhoodsfor 40 to 50 years.As the family imploded so did graduation rates, poverty, welfare, gangs, hard drugs. Itis time the Democrats own the failure of there policies in the inner cities. The only thing that was successful for in the inner cities is creating a mass of blind faith Democrat voters.

It's sad that you are so closed minded that you have no comments on the actual topic. It's just a chance to demean other Americans.
 

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We can only reach those that oppose cannabis on a personal level. If we act like life is a chech and Chong movie we aren't going to change minds. We all represent the cannabis community, good or bad.
 

brown_thumb

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Sorry Jhhnn, thanking Obama is one thing I will never do. He caused division never before seen in this country.

N-o-o-o-o-o... we did that to ourselves. If (many types of divisiveness) weren't already present to begin with in our sick society, nothing Obama did/does (or Trump either) would have any significant influence. ;)

Who knows what harm Trump's Chumps can inflict? Only time will tell.......................................
 
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