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top of the heap to third world status in one generation

armedoldhippy

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Jeremy Scahill, and others have been dismissed by the conglomerates, despite their extremely good reporting.

Scahill exposed how loose the CIA intel requirements were re. targeting civilians in Pakistan with drone-fired missiles.
been that way since the 1800s, "nits make lice" formula for suppression of Native tribes in USA. "kill it before it grows" military just uses more efficient weapons now.
 
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been that way since the 1800s, "nits make lice" formula for suppression of Native tribes in USA. "kill it before it grows" military just uses more efficient weapons now.
A neighbor traveled into the outlands in Pakistan with Code Pink during that period.

The US State Dept in Pakistan had a group meeting with them before they headed out, trying to convince them the Taliban had all their names on death lists, and completely ignoring the tribal Walli; code of ethical safe harbor and grace for guests in the villages, providing tribal customs were not violated.

The US State Dept. in Pakistan (heavily CIA influenced, no doubt, and aware that the Code Pink 'mission' involved addressing with the locals the heinous disregard for life in those areas, as evidenced by the extremely loose and illegal targeting of civilians there via missiles), tried to convince the CP group to fear the outcome so much that they'd turn back. (My opinion/interpretation).

Wasn't going to happen.

In the out-lands, at one village, their bus was surrounded by locals, in the areas these drone strikes had been taking place, and both 'sides' understood the sentiments of the Code Pink mission there.

There was a very heart-felt moment while that bus was surrounded (in a good way) when young men placed their hands on the wndows outside the bus, palm to palm through/on the glass with the bus occupants' hands, few to no spoken words, just non-verbal pleading for some kind of understanding of the humanity present in that moment, and spoke without words. A tear-jerker moment, for sure, just listening to it...

When he returned home and told the condensed version of the story in a comment section of the newspaper, a local GI replied, stating that it was bullshit, as one such young man had tossed a frag over a wall and killed his buddy. My neighbor replied, matter-of-fact, "You were there to kill his people, What did you expect?"

Such is the lack of understanding among nationalists and those filled with vile propaganda. They can't see their own fucking sins. There's that outrageous degree of a sense of entitlement, attributed in large part to the invisible 'white cowboy hats' some of us wear.

Same group, Code Pink, some different players onboard, was with the Peace Flotilla when IDF/Mossad raided it, and fucked people up.

Any Supreme Being, if there is such a thing, is going to send me where ever I've earned, and there's some dirt under my nails, but I have a hunch there will be those who are absolutely certain they're going to a place with angels & harps, who are apt to be in for a serious wake-up..
 
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Irrespective of what happens with 45, his handling of classified materials will likely go down as one of the most expensive, harmful and damaging things which have ever been done to the country.

There is no appropriate analogy :
Reality Winner served over five years for one single document.
They had considered going in to waste Assange in an Embassy over things which
would have been mundane compared to the material 45 had.

No outside power could ever have damaged the country to such an extent.
 
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No outside power could ever have damaged the country to such an extent.
are you positive that an outside power did not have something to do with it ? maybe Russia had a much bigger investment in The Chump than shows, like the tip of an iceberg. i am dubious...:yoinks: it could be nothing, or it could be existential nationally.
 
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I would expect his involvement with Russia is longstanding and and more involved than we have been told. I imagine that it is the House of Saud that is paying for his current run at
the White House. Which leave him all the more exposed to control by the powers that be
at home.
 

moose eater

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I would expect his involvement with Russia is longstanding and and more involved than we have been told. I imagine that it is the House of Saud that is paying for his current run at
the White House. Which leave him all the more exposed to control by the powers that be
at home.
Makes the renting of the Lincoln bedroom look like Trump change.. err, I mean chump change... Err. I guess there's no difference.
 

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What ever you do in modern corporatist America, don't dare stand in the way of resource extractionists, or the corporations whose right it is to toxify your life, while they make extra jing for their shareholders, or for better coke and caviar. It's now unAmerican to do so.
 

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there is a simple solution. stop electing hard-right politicians (or assholes like The Chump) to POTUS, and NEVER allow anyone that was vetted by the Federalist Society to have any federal court seat, EVER! Mitch McConnell will burn in hell for his betrayal of the process we had in place for placing judges on the SC.
 

moose eater

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there is a simple solution. stop electing hard-right politicians (or assholes like The Chump) to POTUS, and NEVER allow anyone that was vetted by the Federalist Society to have any federal court seat, EVER! Mitch McConnell will burn in hell for his betrayal of the process we had in place for placing judges on the SC.
The corporatism won't be stopped by targeting just one party's antics; they're both mostly owned by Wall St. etc.

The theocracy can be targeted via targeting the Rs, but that just occurred here, by their own doing, when they tried to frame Lisa Murkowski (moderate R, corporatist, and pro-choice) as anti-2nd Amendment (despite her having previously been an A or A+ with the NRA), and they failed, in great part, due to her competitor, Kelley Tchibaka (spelling? "Sounds like Chewbaca, whio, inmy oppinion, was a much nicer and more sane character), who openly advocated for banning birth control via the Postal Service, which is how most of our rural villages get their Rx meds these days. Then Kelley denied saying that, despite her being on video saying so at a public mtg.; see dermott Cole's blog online where teh video was last time I looked).

Kelley was also brought up from Outside, as a Commissioner, and an attorney, to provide services to a specific (less than honorable) administration here, and failed to pay back over $35,000 in relocation fees.

Kelley was also popped a bit after for commercial fishing without a license, after which her best defense (as a licensed attorney at the time) was "I didn't know." (That's usually my best defense when nabbed in the commision of a fairly serious crime, too <eye-roll> ).

She stated that she frequently prays about her policy decisions, speaking in tongues.'

But it was largely the abortion/choice issue, and the GQP folks here, including Gov. Dunleavy, who pushed for a Constitutional Convention (for which there's no doubt they wanted to go after our Article 1, Section 22 Rights of Privacy in our State Constitution, which is the source of not only Alaska's abortion protection, but also the 1975 Ravin Decision re. cannabis and privacy. They lost that vote,, 'hugely.'

Oh, and Kelley is an election denier, and Dunleavy is a tRump sycophant.

Aside from all of that, I can't imagine why Lisa won. <eye-roll... again>.

Simply put, they grossly underestimated the SHIT out of the R womens' voter faction. 'HUGELY'. Who, despite being Rs, seem to largely see their bodies as belonging to them alone. Imagine that.
 
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Below you will find a link to a book on the Japanese Unit 731, which was tasked with
perpetrating bacterial warfare on the population of China.


What I would like you to notice, is the price which is being asked for a hardback copy.
The reason for that price has to do with how scarce it is.
Frequently the easiest way to suppress something was simply to buy up the majority of
what was printed and to take them out and bury or burn them. Which has the effect of
making the remaining copies more valuable.
We scooped up all we could with respect to 731 and the personal who ran it.
It was used along with captured knowledge from Germany to further our own
research into such things.

There were a number of tests done here in the US, and over in the UK on
the distribution of BW components.

Testing was done using NYC subway system as a distribution means.
There were a couple of people named who worked on the NYC project.
Shortly after 9/11, there were a series of Anthrax Letters sent to various
Democratic politicians.
The authorities mentioned a man as a subject of interest.
The man who was named killed himself, he had been
part of the group who had been involved with the subway
testing in NYC years earlier.

What the material above indicates is that Frank Olson, the CIA employee who took a dive
out of the 13th floor of a NYC Hotel, was a part of the same project.
The agency has long linked Olson to LSD, but may well be that he
was in fact working with something far darker.

I would imagine some who look thorough this thread wonder why I spend the time
I do on things which are older as opposed to what is happening currently.
If one can understand and appreciate how things were done then, it becomes
easier to have an understanding as to how things work the way they do now.
 

Gry

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are you positive that an outside power did not have something to do with it ? maybe Russia had a much bigger investment in The Chump than shows, like the tip of an iceberg. i am dubious...:yoinks: it could be nothing, or it could be existential nationally.
I imagine that we will with the passage of time, come to learn more of 45's various sources
of financing. There is author by the name of David Cay Johnson (who is the man that 45s
taxes were sent to) that has provided some interesting insight as to what 45 may have been
involved with.
I expect that we will come to learn a good deal more about 45 over the next couple
of years.
What I can say with certainty is that there will never ever be any great revelation
when it comes to the classified past of our country. 45's dog and pony show is just that.
I firmly believe the powers that be, will pull it all down before they would ever see anything
of substance revealed.
 
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