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Tom Hill Haze

bigherb

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i complimented you . But I expressed my disappointment with those charts from a knowledgeable senior member as yourself

These Haze threads were once fun

I wanted to respond to elanius detailed post pages ago but I take long to type n other negative post followed so that deterred me . I don’t understand how Johnny Chicago doesn’t have the energy to talk all about his immense wealth experiences and knowledge of Haze but has the time and energy to be negative.

It’s disappointing and not what this community is about

Soo get a cup of coffee or glass or cognac . But it’s really beating a dead horse . It’s not fun repeating myself . It’s tiring and no enjoyable

Seriously info that contradicts those post or a better source or link 🤣

Have you read my article ?

Did you read anything posted in the last 10 years in my Question for Sams Original Haze thread ?

I’m a detail whore ,I want and appreciate as much information as possible. I’m open minded as well . The research I did and who I contacted was never done . Believe what you wish there are several post and links

Soo will we be soo Anal or technical to say if we didn’t see the imported Cannabis of yesteryear packed in place of origin and arrive by boat plane or train via that country then it’s not authentic import

Did the Aussies really smoke all that Thai or maybe it was from Singapore. Do we have footage or a picture of a return address from the shipments ???

How can we believe anything of source and stock before purchase from a Seedbank ( Nowadays most breeders lie anyway) . Well that’s life the word of man ( that meant something once upon a time )

How about the worlds bibles ( All religions) have stories from 10,000’s years ago . Do you believe it’s all made up or a actual event passed down over the years with much Truths

I spoke with 2 bros from New Jersey , the eldest who just passed recently had a public website ( Non cannabis related ) confirming personal info that was shared with me privately

I was asking questions to the man who shared the True Origins story with me who was in contact and got together with the Surfer boy G aka the originator and would ask some of my questions. Over a year I gathered info and was giving the blessing to share the story

Do you want government Names ?
Well you got the wrong guy

I’m not sure what Proof you guy’s actually want and what would be acceptable and what’s possible to show

I’m not talking about any Haze lines you grow today . I’m talking about The story if the Origins of Original Haze

What do you think of this post Below here , ( was that me just trying to make my story look good ) .

Read Sam the Skunkman's posting about the Haze Brothers with great interest and wanted to clear up a few things. First, I was there in Santa Cruz in the Seventies when it was all happening and never heard the original growers refer to themselves as the Haze Brothers. The infamous Haze Brothers did actually exist, but they were consumers, not growers.

How do I know? I was one of those three brothers and we bought, smoked and shared as much Haze as probably anyone on the planet. We were originally herb connoisseurs from back east who had grown up on the best Columbian, Jamaican, Panama Red, Thai Stick, etc. But even with our backgrounds, we had never seen, smelled or smoked anything like the Haze. The first time we saw those dark purple buds, we could hardly believe it (nor the price, which was $250 per ounce). From that point on, it became the Dom Perignon of our stashes.

So as far as the tasting test with R from High Times Magazine in New York, it did happen and we roasted, toasted and basted him with three varieties of Haze. He was kind of cocky when we got there and more like cold-cocked when we left. Even with all the high quality weed out there today, I don't think any of it is better or more exotic than the first Purple Haze, which was so dark and delicious, we called it the Root Beer.

Two last notes. First, there was a band, The Original Haze, that played in clubs around Santa Cruz in the Seventies that was part of the story. Second, for those rare few who were lucky enough to own one, there was a beautiful, limited edition grower's poster, that listed the soil ingredients, directions and Haze philosophy, In Haze We Trust. The last line of the poster read "Enjoy!" and we lived by that motto.

So that's the story behind the story.
 
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herbgreen

Active member
Veteran
mad mac did complete the Tom Hill Haze Reproduction

We will give him credit where is due

Thats why people trusted you

If Johnny had not gone off about this it would have been glossed over

Mac can redeem himself Just reproduce the Golli Haze and Seedsman Haze like you agreed to...Try That :rasta:
 

Raco

secretion engineer
Moderator
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The Haze Hill again?? (n)

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Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
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Hammer

i complimented you . But I expressed my disappointment with those charts from a knowledgeable senior member as yourself

These Haze threads were once fun

I wanted to respond to elanius detailed post pages ago but I take long to type n other negative post followed so that deterred me . I don’t understand how Johnny Chicago doesn’t have the energy to talk all about his immense wealth experiences and knowledge of Haze but has the time and energy to be negative.

It’s disappointing and not what this community is about

Soo get a cup of coffee or glass or cognac . But it’s really beating a dead horse . It’s not fun repeating myself . It’s tiring and no enjoyable

Seriously info that contradicts those post or a better source or link 🤣

Have you read my article ?

Did you read anything posted in the last 10 years in my Question for Sams Original Haze thread ?

I’m a detail whore ,I want and appreciate as much information as possible. I’m open minded as well . The research I did and who I contacted was never done . Believe what you wish there are several post and links

Soo will we be soo Anal or technical to say if we didn’t see the imported Cannabis of yesteryear packed in place of origin and arrive by boat plane or train via that country then it’s not authentic import

Did the Aussies really smoke all that Thai or maybe it was from Singapore. Do we have footage or a picture of a return address from the shipments ???

How can we believe anything of source and stock before purchase from a Seedbank ( Nowadays most breeders lie anyway) . Well that’s life the word of man ( that meant something once upon a time )

How about the worlds bibles ( All religions) have stories from 10,000’s years ago . Do you believe it’s all made up or a actual event passed down over the years with much Truths

I spoke with 2 bros from New Jersey , the eldest who just passed recently had a public website ( Non cannabis related ) confirming personal info that was shared with me privately

I was asking questions to the man who shared the True Origins story with me who was in contact and got together with the Surfer boy G aka the originator and would ask some of my questions. Over a year I gathered info and was giving the blessing to share the story

Do you want government Names ?
Well you got the wrong guy

I’m not sure what Proof you guy’s actually want and what would be acceptable and what’s possible to show

I’m not talking about any Haze lines you grow today . I’m talking about The story if the Origins of Original Haze

What do you think of this post Below here , ( was that me just trying to make my story look good ) .

Read Sam the Skunkman's posting about the Haze Brothers with great interest and wanted to clear up a few things. First, I was there in Santa Cruz in the Seventies when it was all happening and never heard the original growers refer to themselves as the Haze Brothers. The infamous Haze Brothers did actually exist, but they were consumers, not growers.

How do I know? I was one of those three brothers and we bought, smoked and shared as much Haze as probably anyone on the planet. We were originally herb connoisseurs from back east who had grown up on the best Columbian, Jamaican, Panama Red, Thai Stick, etc. But even with our backgrounds, we had never seen, smelled or smoked anything like the Haze. The first time we saw those dark purple buds, we could hardly believe it (nor the price, which was $250 per ounce). From that point on, it became the Dom Perignon of our stashes.

So as far as the tasting test with R from High Times Magazine in New York, it did happen and we roasted, toasted and basted him with three varieties of Haze. He was kind of cocky when we got there and more like cold-cocked when we left. Even with all the high quality weed out there today, I don't think any of it is better or more exotic than the first Purple Haze, which was so dark and delicious, we called it the Root Beer.

Two last notes. First, there was a band, The Original Haze, that played in clubs around Santa Cruz in the Seventies that was part of the story. Second, for those rare few who were lucky enough to own one, there was a beautiful, limited edition grower's poster, that listed the soil ingredients, directions and Haze philosophy, In Haze We Trust. The last line of the poster read "Enjoy!" and we lived by that motto.

So that's the story behind the story.

That's why I thought it was just trivial, not even worth mentioning my post. I'm nowhere close to a genetic expert.. I didn't see any reason to not post them as they seem to be correct from what most were saying. Theres more people here with haze experience than I do. Not many of us discussed genetics at length back in the 70s. It was more about where it was imported from. The seeds found in imported lbs is what we all grew. No one had a clue what the genetic makeup was, We all just guessed. Haze originated from seeds found in some imported weed. That's about as accurate as I can verify lol.
 
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@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
That's why I thought it was just trivial, not even worth mentioning my post. I'm nowhere close to a genetic expert.. I didn't see any reason to not post them as they seem to be correct from what most were saying. Not many of us discussed genetics at length back in the 70s. It was more about where it was imported from. The seeds found in imported lbs is what we all grew. No one had a clue what the genetic makeup was, We all just guessed. Haze originated from seeds found in some imported weed. That's about as accurate as I can verify lol.

Yep and you also had people collecting seed on their travels over seas.
 

led05

Chasing The Present
That's a little harsh man, you know...:bump:

Hes grown the Original haze hybrids of the two strains in question the Gollli seems even more tropical from what I can tell...50 percent of Mac's original haze The other half is the seedsman OHz

Yeah, Johnny thee guys are not the guys to tear a new one

Mac did this and screwed ICMag

He took shared seeds meant for reproduction and worked them into a entire seed empire [optimistically]

Right???

Give All the credit for this debacle to MadMac

Enterprising fucker :biggrin:

Too bad its not the time nor place for such antics but oh well...He did the deed

Fuck his world up [again]:greenstars:

Mac put himself on stick taking seeds to be shared here...And start a company WTF!

Thats just 'what to never do 101'...but yet he has done the work and it is what it is

I have them too and got them well before I found out about the Betrayal of Trust

These guys didnt betray Trust...elanius is an expert... He is, He knows what hes talking about.

I think the Problem is that Betrayal ....I was Macs big supporter Now hes perma-banned from my screen


x
Zanzibar does Mac - Mac does everybody else…? Funny this world… :(

His Shits is much worse inbred than when he got it is my personal opinion, selfing something already well wasting away but that’s just my opinion & one I shared years ago…. But everyone has & is entitled to their cup of tea, stabbing your friends, buddies & acquaintances in the back is a cup which most believe tastes like shit…

Greed, ain’t it a bitch..

Peace
 

led05

Chasing The Present
mad mac did complete the Tom Hill Haze Reproduction

We will give him credit where is due

Thats why people trusted you

If Johnny had not gone off about this it would have been glossed over

Mac can redeem himself Just reproduce the Golli Haze and Seedsman Haze like you agreed to...Try That :rasta:
I already did the Golli - made many thousands - I’m sure at least somebody did the seedsman already too

That said : The Zam/Jam x Ohaze I made too, are better, and by quite a bit imo - cleaner, higher end, better all @
 
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herbgreen

Active member
Veteran
Zanzibar does Mac - Mac does everybody else…? Funny this world… :(

His Shits is much worse inbred than when he got it is my personal opinion, selfing something already well wasting away but that’s just my opinion & one I shared years ago…. But everyone has & is entitled to their cup of tea, stabbing your friends, buddies & acquaintances in the back is a cup which most believe tastes like shit…

Greed, ain’t it a bitch..

Peace
Greed, no...dollar signs in eyes... yes

He was is blazed out

Rationalize hes making better haze the best!:smokeit:

flower-power did the seedsmanOH.......Fantastically:smoke out:

Just because other people picked up the ball doesnt mend the rift here.....nothing does

Mac could Redeem himself for himself

Do it for your own dignity and .....respect for what have been entrusted

Mac could do a repro of both but why distribute free? And to the people interested in such plants when its for sale

Sort of counter-capitalist

Anyway, maybe a little greed...to call a spade a spade

dead horse walkin' here

x
 
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@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
I thought Mac had shared seed with many for Free ?

Did any one that gave him seed tell him specificly that the seed you make after you select and breed the plants that in no time in the future are those or hybrids of these seed to ever be sold ?
 

flower~power

~Star~Crash~
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This is probably off subject , I believe people should get paid for their work >>> is just my humble opinion and I know that it’s a touchy subject , but I don’t care if you’re a grower , seed maker or a breeder , I do believe people should get compensated for their time , work, & effort ( either through cash ,or love & friendships ,or through sharing one way or another ) & through grow documentation & displays (which is an excellent way) ...etc
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
I come from a time were there was no monetary value placed on seed you shared seed to help out a friend or a friend of a friend.

If you needed seed or wanted something others had you asked.

A thank you is all you expected but thinks are very different now and thats the reality.

When you share genetics you dont know who will end up with them they could end up in Arjans hands for all you know.

Look at the OutBack Haze Nevil gave Michka seed next thing you hear she gave Karel a clone of it now Ace seed has it and i bet others in Holland have it by now to including Arjan thats how it works.

If you dont want it to end up in the hands of commercial interests then keep it with in your inner circle.
 

flower~power

~Star~Crash~
ICMag Donor
Veteran
I come from a time were there was no monetary value placed on seed you shared seed to help out a friend or a friend of a friend.

If you needed seed or wanted something others had you asked.

A thank you is all you expected but thinks are very different now and thats the reality.

When you share genetics you dont know who will end up with them they could end up in Arjans hands for all you know.

Look at the OutBack Haze Nevil gave Michka seed next thing you hear she gave Karel a clone of it now Ace seed has it and i bet others in Holland have it by now to including Arjan thats how it works.

If you dont want it to end up in the hands of commercial interests then keep it with in your inner circle.
It’s not the same world anymore. I’m not that much younger than you but oh my God it’s all about greed now… I just want to pay my bills pay some tax and be comfortable. Plus I have a son who needs to be provided for some extent.
 

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