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Tom Hill Haze

ICGA

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I am growing 254 now in a 8x16ft scenario with a single 1000w halide so there really is no excuse man. Yes, small pots, torture them at all turns, tame the shrew. You know the answers to these questions before you asked them.
So out of 254 how many will you transplant up? Presumably you'll have to widdle them down to 100 and at least put them in 5 gallons so you can see which buds have quality? You should be able to fit 100 5 or 10 gallon pots in an 8 x 16. Ide top em at least once and then tie down whatever you have to in order to keep the canopy even and add 5 more lamps. Never grown pure haze but Ide post some pics If I haddent just gotten out of the slammer and had lost everything camera/computers and all to a gang of commie thieves just before that. Basically im just rotting on probation buying seeds waiting till they let me go.
 

ICGA

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Feb 9, 2021 #4
  • FYI I had one plant from seeds I collected in Kerala that smelled just like vicks-vapo-rub this was more than 40 years ago, and the structure was a lot like yours not typical Kerala at all.
    I smoked a lot of Kerala weed in Kerala and did not see it in my search, most were slimmer NLD types and often as sweet as bubble gum, most seeds I grew in Calif were slim and sweet, great Cannabis, and sinsemilla when grown by the best farmers in Munnar. I visited many farms near Munnar. I paid $3.50 a Kg for the very best, and ground them all (10kg) up looking for the seeds, maybe a dozen in each Kg. I gave the weed after seed removal to my guide who took me to the farms, he was a cripple who could still outwalk me through the mountains, a serious smoker he was, and understood quality.
    I do not have a clone of her.
    -SamS
I had a bag of master kush that smelled like viks vapor rub. Pure tea tree oild/eucalyptus. Just bot the (Master kush x chem91 bx3) from Lucky Dog. Hopefully I can afford to grow them out soon!
 
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ICGA

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These are the nature of my sins :(
We have talked about my faults before. I have left my brothers hanging and had the back of folk I did not know. You just never know man
That's what happens when dope and hookers are involved lol aka MK -Ultra if you catch my drift. Can't trust anybody these days most people can't even trust them selves. We live inside a giant Belco experiment controlled by cleptocrats. We're all just rats in their maze so to speak.
 

ICGA

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did what I did with what I had..

quoteTH "You really gotta run 100 man."

>sounds good

..only Interested in finding the good shit..get me 100 of the GOOD SHIT.

I will grow em and get back to you..

have smoked selected TH haze before THH#35 sample..it was good..didn't ask for another sample though

yeh not the right THH..and /or the guy must’ve grown at 35 least[less than 100]

fuck I enjoy this thread..yer a hoot..
Even if it was a good selection if you suck at fertigation or have a shit lamp etc. or your plants are more then 3 feet from the light the bud will suck lol
 

led05

Chasing The Present
fat durlumbo ...smc/dur x smg..pheno search..

i question if the Durban is Durban[ you know those Cali guys]

don't care what its called just care if I want to smoke it every day[I do]

love it love love it..
Well since I made all those seeds (SMC / Durban x SMG aka Durlumbo) and I’ve got the SMG pure, the SMC pure & The Durban pure and I think it’s Durban, but I don’t trust them Cali fellas either and whom really knows what’s in “Durban”…. :ROFLMAO:

Plant drops nearly all its leafs at end but it’s mostly all flower anyhow…

“Trust nothing of which you hear & only half which you see” my moms always used to say…

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Dad selection
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Heavily seeded

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Yummy bubble from NLD seed plants

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Peace y’all - Be happy, we’re living during a genetics renaissance and one never knows when the rug gets pulled…

Stock up like a squirrel
 
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GMT

The Tri Guy
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"Doesn't matter how many keeper you find if u don't grow it right you'll hardly be able to tell the difference between the winner and some hay."


If two people were doing the growing in different conditions, there may be some difficulty comparing the value of the inputs from the outputs alone, but when all plants are grown identically, the differences between plants can always be spotted.
 

led05

Chasing The Present
"Doesn't matter how many keeper you find if u don't grow it right you'll hardly be able to tell the difference between the winner and some hay."


If two people were doing the growing in different conditions, there may be some difficulty comparing the value of the inputs from the outputs alone, but when all plants are grown identically, the differences between plants can always be spotted.
Ah the epic Genotype & Phenotype battle - most swag away their seed runs too, they should be your very best grows & primal focus imo

Peace

RGD - I agree - please go back 4 or so years at another forum, see my posts on Durlumbo & what to look for when I first made them; it’s always been the green ones, colors in general equal sedation way more often than not has been my POV for very, very long time
 

ICGA

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"Doesn't matter how many keeper you find if u don't grow it right you'll hardly be able to tell the difference between the winner and some hay."


If two people were doing the growing in different conditions, there may be some difficulty comparing the value of the inputs from the outputs alone, but when all plants are grown identically, the differences between plants can always be spotted.
True but what I'm getting at is if the whole set up was garbage then even though a good pheno will be a little better then the rest it will all be relatively shwagy. The point being if one guy posts a frosty one that was grown close to good lights with good soil and nutes etc. An another guy posts one grown with cow shit and water, 8 feet away from the lamp; then who's to say which one was actually better at the genetic level or that the one that looks good is fake just because it isn't all larf with tiny caylex.

Also for example if one plant likes a hot dry environment and another one likes a more mild climate because they were different phenos if they were grown contradictory to their predisposed genetic contingency for one environment over another it may skew the results.
 

ICGA

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Well since I made all those seeds (SMC / Durban x SMG aka Durlumbo) and I’ve got the SMG pure, the SMC pure & The Durban pure and I think it’s Durban, but I don’t trust them Cali fellas either and whom really knows what’s in “Durban”…. :ROFLMAO:

Plant drops nearly all its leafs at end but it’s mostly all flower anyhow…

“Trust nothing of which you hear & only half which you see” my moms always used to say…

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Dad selection
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Heavily seeded

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Yummy bubble from NLD seed plants

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Peace y’all - Be happy, we’re living during a genetics renaissance and one never knows when the rug gets pulled…

Stock up like a squirrel
Just curious, what scenario do you imagine the rug gets pulled? Do the feds roll back legalization? It's hard to imagine. Lol
 

elchischas

Well-known member
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Well since I made all those seeds (SMC / Durban x SMG aka Durlumbo) and I’ve got the SMG pure, the SMC pure & The Durban pure and I think it’s Durban, but I don’t trust them Cali fellas either and whom really knows what’s in “Durban”…. :ROFLMAO:

Plant drops nearly all its leafs at end but it’s mostly all flower anyhow…

“Trust nothing of which you hear & only half which you see” my moms always used to say…

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Dad selection
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Heavily seeded

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Yummy bubble from NLD seed plants

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Peace y’all - Be happy, we’re living during a genetics renaissance and one never knows when the rug gets pulled…

Stock up like a squirrel
Really nice amigo!
I didn't know that you was the father of Durlumbo :rasta:
 

led05

Chasing The Present
Really nice amigo!
I didn't know that you was the father of Durlumbo :rasta:
Thank you my brother

I’ve kept my mouth quiet about many of my creations a long time; but lately some people are going @ spreading BS & lies so I figure the best way to stop that is to address it all now out loud & very clearly so there’s no confusion moving forwards…

Personally I think seeds & plants belong to us all and we’re all as individuals just merely points/clogs along very long seed-line wheels, if we as individuals can make tiny improvements along the ways & then share on forwards we’ve done our parts & the best we can…

I’ve seen WAY too many people sit on piles of amazing seeds due inaction or they get too old or die off before being able to do much with them, lost for eternity…

Either spread seeds far & wide as gifts or sell them if one can; but be honest about provenance & pay respects to those known in the wheel before you - seems rather simple yet the execution in this Space makes it seem like someone is asking you to climb to the moon…

PS: I’ve got some gems made with the Oax 12Fingers you’ve shared too (many thanks to you); just haven’t gotten around YET to circling back & playing with it more - I’ve got two white boards of lists of “projects” just so I don’t forget - ;)

Peace Bro
 
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led05

Chasing The Present
Just curious, what scenario do you imagine the rug gets pulled? Do the feds roll back legalization? It's hard to imagine. Lol
History repeats itself & as fools homogenize & self away into oblivion; often - look across this forum and many others….10 plants popped, one selected & selfed, seeds shared the world @, then it gets repeated…. Why do my plants not look great, I don’t get all the hoopla - haha

You get new seed you bulk them first then you play, always being able to revert back to each stage if you’re prudent, sadly very few do this… otherwise vigor, quality & uniqueness gets tossed out with the bath water…
 
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Ur Humbl Nr8tor

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Lucky twats to even know you they are.
Hahaha, Tom talking Yoda Shit. Let’s get Depp as Luke Skywalker, Willie as Obi Wan and Snoop as Ace Windu and have a galactic haze party.

Great banter the last 24 hours. Sorry I missed it.

I’ve been busy working like mad…opportunity of a lifetime came up Sunday morning to possibly snag a 10+ acre mini farm next to the grove spot I grow my tall Sallies. I’m not sure if I’ll be able to hit it, but damn if I’m not swinging.

Been walking the land this morning...weedy as a motherfucker but the mist and rolling hills have got me thinking big possibilities.

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house garden

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weedy ass farmer market op vegetable garden

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one of the current hoops with fruit tree stock

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misty morning views

Got me dreaming about big plans, but it’s a long shot to swing it peeps
 
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Airloom

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@Tom Hill
“Haze, or any cannabis really is a serious investment of time and effort”

I check in on your current open pollination and see you’re all in; not many willing to put that kind of skin in the game.

“The reward in life is always in proportion to the risk”

Emerson said it more bluntly “he who risks nothing is nothing”
 

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