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captinahab
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Hows it going tleaf
Not sure if you know but there is a great book called "Teaming with Microbes: The Organic Gardener's Guide to the Soil
Food Web". Book really helped me understand microbes and feeding the soil instead of the plant type of deal. I highly
recommend it if you have not already.
BayBHuey
http://www.microbeorganics.com/
Im pretty sure this is the guy that wrote that. I didnt look it up so im probably wrong. Remember every books now on pdf. I got real into the "smarts" of the business.....Got full notebooks .
Then i took 20 pages of notes off some guru that knew every scientific do dad in the soil.. till i looked at his unhappy garden and decided i was just fine without his super book smarty terms..lol .
Life experince beats book smarts 100% of the time..... the more you grow the more you know.
P.s. that is a good book
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DoubleDDsNuggs
I have that book. in the back where it says references for other info, it mentions this website (which I also love) and that it is owned by Tim Wilson. He's from Oregon it sounds like because he visited the earth worm farm in Yelm which is close by my area. I thought that was kinda neat.
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DoubleDDsNuggs
http://www.microbeorganics.com/
Im pretty sure this is the guy that wrote that. I didnt look it up so im probably wrong. Remember every books now on pdf. I got real into the "smarts" of the business.....Got full notebooks .
Then i took 20 pages of notes off some guru that knew every scientific do dad in the soil.. till i looked at his unhappy garden and decided i was just fine without his super book smarty terms..lol .
Life experince beats book smarts 100% of the time..... the more you grow the more you know.
P.s. that is a good book
funny how that works lol. you can read and read and nothing prepares you for real life application.
captinahab
Member
Its a differnt kind of smarts.... like every engineer may be smart at designing things.... but he is hated by every mechanic who works on stuff the engineer designs.
Aint nothing wrong with getting smarts thou
yes yes real world applications are a must i actually am thinking bout pursueing an internship at LEAR once I finish a couple semesters of school which will be starting in a min 
. now that'll be some real world for my ass , I also have to start the process of buying my first home , Im actually pretty swamped with things atm moment but with strife comes opportunity sooo.
Like I said all this stuff about microbiology is redundant with out the necessary equipment to observe things via electron microscopy , not to say it isn't useful but ive found it best to just plant em' fertilize once a week let her dead leaves return back to the soil and watch out
an expirementation is fun here and there but population has to be there . I have back ups of back ups , i haven't took clones in months and i wont be taking any soon. i may have to cull some plants because i have test seeds on the way
But one should never expirement on their whole crop . Gotta think about the long haul ...
KINDA BLOWED
. now that'll be some real world for my ass , I also have to start the process of buying my first home , Im actually pretty swamped with things atm moment but with strife comes opportunity sooo.Like I said all this stuff about microbiology is redundant with out the necessary equipment to observe things via electron microscopy , not to say it isn't useful but ive found it best to just plant em' fertilize once a week let her dead leaves return back to the soil and watch out
an expirementation is fun here and there but population has to be there . I have back ups of back ups , i haven't took clones in months and i wont be taking any soon. i may have to cull some plants because i have test seeds on the way But one should never expirement on their whole crop . Gotta think about the long haul ...KINDA BLOWED
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DoubleDDsNuggs
I actually just posted my opinion on that subject. your technique works, is simple since you don't have to worry about pH and as long as you have a balanced soil that has plenty of everything, your plant will pick and choose despite pH. the only drawback is that it costs a few dollars more. if you wanna read it, you better grab your bong cuz it's a long read.
captinahab
Member
i love seeing bacteria and cells , i stare like i stare at my plants
A while back I downloaded all his videos under the scope. It was teas at different times
His scopes all black and white. I mean that its made for industrial type use.. every day aplications for just checking bateria, nematode, etc content. Youtube lead me to other videos with cheap color scopes that broadcast to a tv and i couldnt belive it when i saw all the colors . The cretures looked alive in a weird alien way. Like 3d vs 2d. His scopes made for work... but i bet a cheap scope would work 2 if you know what to look for, and it would give you a cooler looking show.
Sure you cant get a quick nematode count like you can with his work tool, but for 100 bucks you can almost see the creatures facial expressions and it gives you a genral idea of whats in the tea(fungus dominant vs bacteria dominant).
Hampputukka
Member
Looking good tleaf!
Nice Tleaf I like the look of the og 18 I have a pack of those beans as well 
^^ Hey bro the yield on the SCROG was 40 oz dry weight and took ages to trim so rebuilding a smaller room as getting older now
Peace
Peace
Looking good tleaf 
Huey....thanks for the book link!
Huey....thanks for the book link!
pedrero
Member
hi tleaf!
very good conversations in these pages, very glad to found your thread
IMHO teaming with microbes is one of must read books to every grower, including soup style. Helps a lot on the conscience and wisdom of feeding and at least, if you want to control the environment its always better to understand what´s the nature proposal first. Shure a scope transport our vision to another understanding, but plant reactions is always a good tip on how the things are going.
by the way, how about micorrhizal fungus.. have you tryed?
good vibes man, great thread i´ll be watching for shure!
very good conversations in these pages, very glad to found your thread
IMHO teaming with microbes is one of must read books to every grower, including soup style. Helps a lot on the conscience and wisdom of feeding and at least, if you want to control the environment its always better to understand what´s the nature proposal first. Shure a scope transport our vision to another understanding, but plant reactions is always a good tip on how the things are going.
by the way, how about micorrhizal fungus.. have you tryed?
good vibes man, great thread i´ll be watching for shure!
I actually have tried promix containing mycrozai but as of now I let the soil build its own microbiology , I just make sure to give the leaves that have fallen back to the soil I find that that's one of the most important things , also the addition of humus and compost the soil is pretty alive also I have a gang of garden cetipedes that travel through the dirt eating insect larvae and transporting bacteria .....if anyone can throw out some tips or interesting facts that would be great ,,,am I missing something that's in this book 
Arthropods/rollie pollie are my best friend!! I bring em inside n put in my pots during veg. they excrete what myco eats is my logic..
i think they keep other molbusters from climbin beanstock too bc mites have been absent since introduction of beneficial organisms..
pedrero
Member
this book has a generic approach about living with a very understandable language to guys like me. I´m no botanic and i think a lot of growers aren´t too, so reading real cientific stuff sounds a second stage. You guys clearly have good understanding about the theme, that´s put this chat in a high level, but before reading this basic stuff i was fighting problems with my plants with more and more problems, ex. adding different stuff to "solve" deficiences, but is more like absortion and cycle of some minerals. A good example is N and P cycles, completely different, and sufficient P on all the bloom stage was my bigger challenge when i turned to "just add water" indoors. Today i believe that without mico fungi i would probably be losing this battle, remembering i´m talking about growing indoor.
I use powdered mico just for the transplants and hope to it´s proliferation, believing that a good ph buffering and mico´s do the job for all the run.
About mulching with the leaves, i tryed and thats a good idea, but nowadays I mulch the soil with straw, and try always to keep moisture spraying plain water with a little bit of compost manure (thats the word for that black liquid that form in the earthworm castings? Here we say "chorume").
I´ll try to put some rollie pollie in the envoirment, never tryed at all!
I use powdered mico just for the transplants and hope to it´s proliferation, believing that a good ph buffering and mico´s do the job for all the run.
About mulching with the leaves, i tryed and thats a good idea, but nowadays I mulch the soil with straw, and try always to keep moisture spraying plain water with a little bit of compost manure (thats the word for that black liquid that form in the earthworm castings? Here we say "chorume").
I´ll try to put some rollie pollie in the envoirment, never tryed at all!
