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captinahab
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Exactly.... tea isnt bad. I just go one route or the other.... tea all the time or castings and compost. Its kind of like mixing hydro and organic...... a lot of ciffs to drive off on that route.
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DoubleDDsNuggs
get to reading
I found a science project describing how osmosis works which is how they get the plant extracts out of the plant. you can get stronger extracts depending on the sugar concentration and this is tested by how much weight the plant loses. now if I can only find where I hid my scale, we'll be set! until then, I will just use a lot of material and tons of sugar. never too much sugar hehe!
the plants have a good mulching and manure and eggshells and little baby cetipedes and leaf mold and all type of organic shit thatll drive that microbiology to feed the plant . What your saying is once the tea is introduce one time I shouldn't feed them the teas anymore because the biology is there and should be left alone to colonize. How does feeding teas regularly, destroy the microbiology. Only thing I can think of is it makes the plant eat it all leaving thesoil deprived 
cells produce carbohydrate chain (sugars) which makes up their glycocalyx which is the slimy membarane after the cell wall I believe. thes chains are attached to proteins embedded in the plasma membrane , as you recall I mentioned that in your thread. I would guess the sugar allows molecules to pass more easily throw the intergral proteins embedded in the plasma membrane. Osmosis is the water molecules passing through cell walls if im not mistaken 
right?
right?
captinahab
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I busted open one of the full bags to show ya. For production (when im doing 20+ full bags) i only run 2 hours... for me or my friends i let it go 6. Eat 2 for a body buzz... eat 4 and smoke a bowl if you wanna veg out. Take a look they are tasty
captinahab
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the plants have a good mulching and manure and eggshells and little baby cetipedes and leaf mold and all type of organic shit thatll drive that microbiology to feed the plant . What your saying is once the tea is introduce one time I shouldn't feed them the teas anymore because the biology is there and should be left alone to colonize. How does feeding teas regularly, destroy the microbiology. Only thing I can think of is it makes the plant eat it all leaving thesoil deprived
Its more like once i introduce tea i use it for the whole run. They get dependant on it like crack. Im useing soil this run that had tea used in it last run... but this run they will get no tea.
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DoubleDDsNuggs
that is what osmosis it 
the higher the concentration of sugar, the more plant goodies will extract which is what creates I liquid. the microbiology breaks this down which is found on the natural plant material you put in there.
I was thinking about making mini doses which would make it finish faster and speed up the process if I am reading correctly on another article. I'm about to leave for work and so I will just continue researching there hehehe.
the higher the concentration of sugar, the more plant goodies will extract which is what creates I liquid. the microbiology breaks this down which is found on the natural plant material you put in there. I was thinking about making mini doses which would make it finish faster and speed up the process if I am reading correctly on another article. I'm about to leave for work and so I will just continue researching there hehehe.
captinahab
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oatmeal raisin ? my fave
Chocolate chip in the pic... but i also do rasin, plain,and extra sugary. All oatmeal thou.
that is what osmosis it
I was thinking about making mini doses which would make it finish faster and speed up the process if I am reading correctly on another article. I'm about to leave for work and so I will just continue researching there hehehe.
I have a couple plants around to try it on I may look into it also ,
have a good day at work ...
makes sense now , I have been seeing tip burns on my veg plants and I haven't even been feeding them . I did however give them that tea last week and now theyre slightly yellowing as if they were hungry...soo what now Cap ?
captinahab
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Save the tea for later in flower. We dont want to be killing leaves in veg. Top dress the plant with a mcdonalds cup of cheap organic poop(compost) and 2 McDonald's cups of castings right before the next time you water. 3 of 4 days after water and they should green up again. Gauge you success on new leaves as the ones already affected are already doomed to die.
If you want to rush veg more just turn up the temp to 90 and water more often.
Week 4 of flower is when i introduce tea if im gonna use it. Then they get tea, tea, water, tea, tea, water until they are done.
If no tea is used the routine is top dress every 2 weeks...... gotta feed them girls to keep em nice and green. And
captinahab
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My fall colors are showing right now (i will post pics in my thread later tonight) so they are going to get their last top dress tonight. In 1 week (since im giving them half the food i normaly do) when the dressing runs out they will start cannibalize the leaves for the last week or two giving better light penetration.
If i cut them off right now it would lose leaves to fast and get less pot(they just wouldnt be happy). It also may cannibalize them so fast they take off the sugar leaves too and that sucks to trim. since they are older they are getting a half dose of top dressing as their last meal. They are also going to get some sul/po/Mag feeding. My fan leaves will look crappy from this point on.
If i cut them off right now it would lose leaves to fast and get less pot(they just wouldnt be happy). It also may cannibalize them so fast they take off the sugar leaves too and that sucks to trim. since they are older they are getting a half dose of top dressing as their last meal. They are also going to get some sul/po/Mag feeding. My fan leaves will look crappy from this point on.
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DoubleDDsNuggs
May be you two already covered this but why are you switching back-and-forth? Are you using the same soil?
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DoubleDDsNuggs
I think that would work well. Part of my grow is barely any actual compost. This was formed because people were told compost is good so now they overuse it. How is he reamending the soil for the times that he is doing water only? Is it smart that I suspect that the compost from the previous grow is the re-amendment?
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DoubleDDsNuggs
Well, I use earthworm castings and humus. But that's it. The rest is alfalfa, fish and seaweed.
captinahab
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Compost has about a two week supply of nutes.... its slow release. The bugs in tea that poop nitrogen live about 3 or 4 days.... always reuse soil
we're amending as we go DD I top dress with compost and manure and sometimes castings , I foliar feed mother plant Veg A and Veg B . and they have a thick layer of dead leaves as mulch . they also have had top dressing of eggshell powder and a slight sprinkle of sulfur. All my water is aerated and ph'ed to about 6.8 to7.0.I sometimes drop it a little lower.they also get kelp when they look stressed
