Damn! My lights go off at three in da morning! And on at 9a could I go in at 6? Maybe 5a?
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Damn! My lights go off at three in da morning! And on at 9a could I go in at 6? Maybe 5a?
whatever is cleaver, a hour works, longer is better imo....
Mia
Active member
I'd like to know if eagle can be combined with forbid/avid/or floramite so that everything can be done in one spraying. I remember the Forbid label saying it could be combined but it would nice if there was some table to reference what can go with what.
Betcha Grapeman knows.........
Betcha Grapeman knows.........
puff adder
Member
I have mixed Eagle-20 and Floromite many times. It is my normal preventative spray mix. No issues whatsoever mixing the 2.
I mix Saturator, Eagle-20, and floromite together and spray once in veg, and again in week 1 of flowering. This has worked very well in keeping my rooms free of bugs and PM throughout the flowering cycle.
I mix Saturator, Eagle-20, and floromite together and spray once in veg, and again in week 1 of flowering. This has worked very well in keeping my rooms free of bugs and PM throughout the flowering cycle.
Mia
Active member
Good looking out.
You PH the water with that combo?
With avid you supposed to ph water between 5 and 6 before mixing it up.
S
SeaMaiden
Oh my God. You folks who are doing this, using products like Floramite, Avid, or Forbid prophylactically, need to understand what you're doing specifically with mites. They are quite able, capable, on an evolutionary basis, of surviving this and using products like this prophylactically is just like using antibiotics prophylactically. You're creating bugs that will become more and more difficult to handle, treat, eradicate.
You're also doing exactly the same thing using something like Eagle 20 as a prophylactic. Haven't you read the label?
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
You're also doing exactly the same thing using something like Eagle 20 as a prophylactic. Haven't you read the label?
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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SeaMaiden
I know! Right?
Mia
Active member
You're jumping to conclusions here.
I am simply gathering information.
There are appropriate ways to use these things you know.
Just a side note about the mites. Forbid claims they cannot develop resistance because of it's mode of action. I do agree with you that these issues need to be handled responsibly although I'm not sure we agree on what "responsibly" is.
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SeaMaiden
I'm not jumping to any conclusions. I didn't quote anyone prior, but I do read. You see what I've quoted above there? That's someone using toxic products that are meant to treat an active problem as a prophylactic. That's an abuse and is guaranteed to produce not only resistant mites, but resistant fungi.
As for resistance in mites, you might want to do a little searching on the recent research that's showing how very quickly mites develop resistance to all sorts of 'cides'. There's also a growing body of evidence that, at least with regard to a typical agricultural product like, say, wheat, treating at all may not ultimately be the best option, speaking in the long-term. Floramite-resistant *and* NPS-resistant mites are already a known phenomenon in SoCal and other heavily ag'd areas out here.
I would attach the articles I'm talking about, but one is in hardcopy only, and this is a thread about PM, not spider mites, and I don't want to cause too much of a hijack. I have, I believe, already attached in this thread an article out of Cornell discussing the problem of resistance specifically to Eagle 20, in the PM fungi that infects cucurbits. If I haven't, let me know and I'll get that attached ASAP.
Relax.
There may be back room growers here and in 3rd world countries that do not practice IPM.
We here in the US have been properly rotating our products for over 30 years.
Don't worry so much and eat lots of fresh fruits and vegetables.
All I can say is wow!
All I can say is wow!
This stuff really works. I obtained a clone from a friend, that I quarantined for 3 days. I thought it was safe only to see powdery mildew rear its ugly head. I finally purchased Eagle 20, and applied per as this thread suggested. Well it (powdery mildew) is gone, vanished like it never exsisted. What a great product, just being able to save a prized clone means alot to me. Thanks for the tip. This thread rocks!!!
All I can say is wow!
This stuff really works. I obtained a clone from a friend, that I quarantined for 3 days. I thought it was safe only to see powdery mildew rear its ugly head. I finally purchased Eagle 20, and applied per as this thread suggested. Well it (powdery mildew) is gone, vanished like it never exsisted. What a great product, just being able to save a prized clone means alot to me. Thanks for the tip. This thread rocks!!!
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SeaMaiden
But maybe not so much, if this resistance issue is causing such headaches for everyone from apple to zucchini growers. And I *still* don't like methyl iodide.
<shrug>
There are a lot of growers, here and elsewhere, who have no clue what IPM is, let alone practice anything resembling a program.
Rolando Mota
Active member
Bought some eagle20 and the instructions that came with have the rate at 5 ml per gallon, a lot higher than the 2 ml per as posted in this thread. How much are you using?
Rolando Mota
Active member
Cool, thanks. Looks like I'll start with 2ml.
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Godless
Can someone tell me what % of Myclobutanil is in Eagle 20?
I picked up some Spectracide Immunox at HD and it lists it at 2%. For individual plants, they recommend a spray at 6oz/100gal, which converts to 3.5mg/gal. Trying to see how that compares to Eagle 20.
These are all 1.5ft clones in beer cups of coco - was thinking I'd top them and do a full plant submersion. Good idea? Should I spray some on the surface of the coco?
Also was wondering: since PM is systemic, couldn't I just add it to my res for a cycle?
I picked up some Spectracide Immunox at HD and it lists it at 2%. For individual plants, they recommend a spray at 6oz/100gal, which converts to 3.5mg/gal. Trying to see how that compares to Eagle 20.
These are all 1.5ft clones in beer cups of coco - was thinking I'd top them and do a full plant submersion. Good idea? Should I spray some on the surface of the coco?
Also was wondering: since PM is systemic, couldn't I just add it to my res for a cycle?
