This Is How You Kill Powder Mildew Forever!!!!!

[TheGreenReaper]

1) "Oh, for what it is worth ..... PM is simple to take care of obviously if your humidity isnt too high,"
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2) ...because penetrator/saturator allows dutch master zone to become systemic and therefore the plant is usually resilient to PM afterwards"

3) " i was able to keep it well under control..... not sure if this helps, i noticed dutch master zone was mentioned above but wasnt mentioned in the light it should have been ...."

peace n pot,

1) Really? Care to elaborate on the subject with more knowledge than say...grapeman? Please provide source if you are going to contradict one of the most popular threads on the site and much of the current research data, and much of the current experience in both cannabis and commercial agriculture that are represented here.

Yes, I am wound up...when PM has cost you tens of thousands of dollars, you get serious about it and want more than "usually" and "under control". You want it fucking gone - like gone...like something that is gone that you dont have to think about anymore. It is far more complicated than "humidity low"...this is part of what keeps the shit around and I dont want new folks thinking this can be fooled with...it is as so or more dangerous than mites, and much more easily taken care of once and for all with the right treatment than mites.

2) your own comments weaken and make your comment of no use to those trying to cure it: "allows it become systemic"..."USUALLY resilient"

How is it "allowed" to become systemic?

In addition, this is a cure thread. We are not making PM usually go away like it does with H20, H202, K2SIO3, CuSO4(DM zone), milk, potassium bicarbonate, semen, menstrual blood, ukrainian kangaroo rat ear wax, or emulsified colloidal camel toe scrapings.

3) Because this is a thread on Eagle, not Zone - go start your own thread on Zone. In addition, I posted a thread about people's fucking skin being eaten off by zone...I dont know what kind of "light" you want that to be painted in...but eating people's skin off...I dont have to cast it in any light - it forms its own "light" with results like that. LOL

I know, I know...TGR take it down...I will, Im gonna go smoke. And go check out some PM free plants while I do. Onward.

 

[Kcar]

 

[krunchbubble]

Oh, for what it is worth ..... PM is simple to take care of obviously if your humidity isnt too high, obviously some indica dom strains are likely to be beefy and possibly more prone to mold spores due to humidity.... so fixing environmental conditions first would be the go,,,,, but that being said ... Dutch master Zone with penetrator/saturator ..... its a chlorine derivative that can be sprayed up to around week 5 or so of a 9 week flowering strain .... and doesnt just destroy moldspores / bacteria spores/ PM on contact ..... when used with penetrator or saturator ... because penetrator/saturator allows dutch master zone to become systemic and therefore the plant is usually resilient to PM afterwards ..... Ive had the displeasure of having to grow in a highly humid room once (outside of my control) with a large sog with fat buds and huge 4.5footer+ mums in the one grow room and thanks to dutch master zone and dutch master saturator/penetrator .... i was able to keep it well under control..... not sure if this helps, i noticed dutch master zone was mentioned above but wasnt mentioned in the light it should have been ....

peace n pot,

lol, good luck with ALL that.....

1) Really? Care to elaborate on the subject with more knowledge than say...grapeman? Please provide source if you are going to contradict one of the most popular threads on the site and much of the current research data, and much of the current experience in both cannabis and commercial agriculture that are represented here.

Yes, I am wound up...when PM has cost you tens of thousands of dollars, you get serious about it and want more than "usually" and "under control". You want it fucking gone - like gone...like something that is gone that you dont have to think about anymore. It is far more complicated than "humidity low"...this is part of what keeps the shit around and I dont want new folks thinking this can be fooled with...it is as so or more dangerous than mites, and much more easily taken care of once and for all with the right treatment than mites.

2) your own comments weaken and make your comment of no use to those trying to cure it: "allows it become systemic"..."USUALLY resilient"

How is it "allowed" to become systemic?

In addition, this is a cure thread. We are not making PM usually go away like it does with H20, H202, K2SIO3, CuSO4(DM zone), milk, potassium bicarbonate, semen, menstrual blood, ukrainian kangaroo rat ear wax, or emulsified colloidal camel toe scrapings.

3) Because this is a thread on Eagle, not Zone - go start your own thread on Zone. In addition, I posted a thread about people's fucking skin being eaten off by zone...I dont know what kind of "light" you want that to be painted in...but eating people's skin off...I dont have to cast it in any light - it forms its own "light" with results like that. LOL

I know, I know...TGR take it down...I will, Im gonna go smoke. And go check out some PM free plants while I do. Onward.

YOUR THE MAN!!! haven't heard of emulsified colloidal camel toe scraping yet....

 

[odogyouknow]

I remember in the Big Plants Outdoors thread Planty or Trinity Gold or whatever the fuck handle he was using at the time posted this long drawn out dramatic... "Please, please, please do no use Eagle 20, it's poison for turf and roses and stuff, no good to smoke at all.

Was he just misinformed on how to use it or what?

How do you guys use it? Once in early veg and that will make the plant virtually impermeable to P.M. all the way through it's life? It is just systemic for 45 days?

I got hit hard by P.M. on my first plant this year and messed around with some serenade and some green cure type stuff that was just a vain attempt to curb it.

 

[krunchbubble]

come on man, there are 59 pages of info on it.....

one look on the first page would of answer all your questions....

 

[accessndx]

Just gotta come on back through this thread from time to time to do two things:

1) Confirm the veracity of everything previously stated by Krunchbubble regarding Eagle.
2) To thank Krunch for the information.

Krunch, without doubt anyone that's taken your suggestion to use this stuff to heart has had overwhelmingly good success. And by success I mean they've completely eradicated PM with NO return. The applications vary from 1x to 2x....but either way it works like a silver bullet.

If you're hatin' on Eagle for whatever reason, you just missed the boat. Good luck with alot of other nonsense trying to get under control something that can simply be eliminated.

 

[RugerBaby]

I used it twice, and my pm still came back

The 1st harvest was clear of any pm. But mid flowering on the 2nd harvest, the damn pm came back. Im not too fond of using it cause I live in the same space as my garden. Im ready to throw in the towel, I hate PM!

 

[Herborizer]

I have never heard of anyone getting pm after applying eagle, if applied thoroughly. Tell us about how you went about sterilizing your grow space, trays, tools, etc (hopefully you still did this). Tell us how you applied it. Method, weeks in grow, frequency. Something must of gotten missed.

 

[grapeman]

Even the best materials cannot 100% overcome extremely high pressure situations. Clean your space.

We had PM all over the San Joaquin Valley last summer and we use ALL the high tech stuff that isn't even discussed here.

but without the protection, you'll get nothing at harvest.

Coverage is key. You may want to add a spreader/sticker to your application and make sure you cover 100% of the plant (bottom of leaves and stems also). You need to find out where the spores are coming from.

I used it twice, and my pm still came back

The 1st harvest was clear of any pm. But mid flowering on the 2nd harvest, the damn pm came back. Im not too fond of using it cause I live in the same space as my garden. Im ready to throw in the towel, I hate PM!

 

[SeaMaiden]

That high tech stuff that the news is reporting as a surge in 'cide' use? Makes me afraid to buy strawberries, seriously. The more I learn about what's allowed to be used on our foodstsuffs, the more afraid I am to buy food even if it has been grown locally.

I have never heard of anyone getting pm after applying eagle, if applied thoroughly. Tell us about how you went about sterilizing your grow space, trays, tools, etc (hopefully you still did this). Tell us how you applied it. Method, weeks in grow, frequency. Something must of gotten missed.

I'll look for the article, but last year I read in an ag publication about apple growers having a very hard time dealing with fungi because they've overused these single-site mode products and created resistant fungi.
Here we go! Had to really search for that.
http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.cornell.edu/NewsArticles/Cuc_Cntct_Fcides.htm

I happen to live upcountry from California's central valley (San Joaquin shares a border with us), I don't think it's impossible that even though my particular area isn't heavily agriculturalized, to have picked up an already-exposed, resistant spore.

I can't remember if I posted in this thread that I experienced a come-back of PM on one cut, The White. All had come out, worse for the wear and tear, but they made it, from a difficult battle with root aphids. I believe the PM may have been vectored by them, but whether or not it was they weakened all the plants to the point that they just couldn't fight it off. I was able to get it eradicated on ALL other moms, just not The White. I ended up putting her outside and just letting her go, and eventually the fruiting bodies just stopped.

End of summer I saw PM pop up on one of my squashes, it had been pretty hot and very dry, so I need to learn more about how this fungi works. I pulled off the leaves that were affected and saw no more fruiting bodies.

 

[grapeman]

Don't be afraid.

You are more likely to get sick or die from organic products then from properly grown inorganic crops. These are just facts.

That high tech stuff that the news is reporting as a surge in 'cide' use? Makes me afraid to buy strawberries, seriously. The more I learn about what's allowed to be used on our foodstsuffs, the more afraid I am to buy food even if it has been grown locally.

 

[krunchbubble]

spraying Eagle 20 today.....

haven't used it in over as year im sure.....

just preventative maintenance.......

 

[grow_right]

hydrogen peroxide can be used upto a few weeks before harvest, and kills powdery mildew fast. let alone not being a poison.

 

[greenmatter]

hydrogen peroxide can be used upto a few weeks before harvest, and kills powdery mildew fast. let alone not being a poison.

well, yeah it can........... let alone the fact that it is NOT a cure. when you cure a disease you stop it. H2O2 while it is without a doubt good stuff does not cure a thing PMwise. just like sulfur it zaps the spores and does fuck-all for the root of the problem

 

[SeaMaiden]

Don't be afraid.

You are more likely to get sick or die from organic products then from properly grown inorganic crops. These are just facts.

I'd love to see some numbers to support that. The reading I've been doing (have access to?) doesn't support that assertion (that I'm more likely to become sick and die from organic than conventionally grown produce). It's a debate I've been having with my mom for the last year or so. If the numbers support your/her assertions, then I must eat my words and go with my other reasons for preferring organic over conventional.

There's also the issue of 'cide' exposure to farm workers. If it's making them sick, it's likely making the local environment 'sick.' I, as a consumer, should and do take some responsibility for that, as my dollars equal votes in favor or against certain practices.

 

[grapeman]

I'd love to see some numbers to support that. The reading I've been doing (have access to?) doesn't support that assertion (that I'm more likely to become sick and die from organic than conventionally grown produce). It's a debate I've been having with my mom for the last year or so. If the numbers support your/her assertions, then I must eat my words and go with my other reasons for preferring organic over conventional.

There's also the issue of 'cide' exposure to farm workers. If it's making them sick, it's likely making the local environment 'sick.' I, as a consumer, should and do take some responsibility for that, as my dollars equal votes in favor or against certain practices.

Look - this is a whole other issue that I'm sure Krunch would love to see taken elsewhere. Start a thread on your question. If I see it and am in the mood, I'll correct the years of bullshit you've been taught by ignorant people.

 

[Carver]

Krunch, I just picked up some eagle today.. I just about lost my
Last harvest due to pm but anyway. I just transplanted my 12-15 teens that are in 3" grodan cubes into Canna coco using the kiss method. There is pm on them now and my question is how long should I wait to spray and how many applications? The botanists at the hydro store told me to apply for three consecutive day at 2 ml per gallon. Any info would be great. Thanks

 

[krunchbubble]

Look - this is a whole other issue that I'm sure Krunch would love to see taken elsewhere. Start a thread on your question. If I see it and am in the mood, I'll correct the years of bullshit you've been taught by ignorant people.

thank you sir!

Krunch, I just picked up some eagle today.. I just about lost my
Last harvest due to pm but anyway. I just transplanted my 12-15 teens that are in 3" grodan cubes into Canna coco using the kiss method. There is pm on them now and my question is how long should I wait to spray and how many applications? The botanists at the hydro store told me to apply for three consecutive day at 2 ml per gallon. Any info would be great. Thanks

spray them now...

never heard of three days in a row, but it wont hurt to do it like that...

one spray is usually good enough....

make sure you use a sticker/spreader like liquid dish soap, a couple drops in your sprayer and make sure you cover the entire plant, leaves and stem...

good luck!

 

[Carver]

Also does it need to be applied when light are out? How long of dry time is needed or can it be sprayed with lights on? Thanks

 

[krunchbubble]

light off only! and no fans....

spray when lights turn off and let them soak till the lights turn back on....