Stuntin101
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Yes4prop215 he drenches the whole plant. No need for ebay, Tampa agriculture has it for $53 including shipping. Save 2 dollars, and have it in 3 days. I just got mine in the mail from there today.
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This Is How You Kill Powder Mildew Forever!!!!!
- Thread starter krunchbubble
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I also got PM from a cut. Wish they were more careful. Thank you eagle 20.
The Eagle rocks.... I won't let any new cuts enter my room before being dunked in the stuff. Two things:
1. After you treat the plant(s), there may appear to be some residual pm on some leaves. It is dead pm, so do not spray again like I did the first time, as it will slow your plant down a little. One spray/dunk is enough. I have one strain that is impervious to almost everything except for pm, with Eagle, the strain is back at the top of my list.
2. In CA, we must have the right licensing or documentation to purchase/use these compounds. Many suppliers will ship to CA 'assuming' you have the right paperwork. It is up to you to prove it should a question arise later. The chances of this happening are negligible.
Ozone is great stuff too, but use it outside of your room for protection, sort of like the Earth is surrounded by a layer of the stuff. Ozone can destroy the smell of buds... literally, not to mention your lungs. Use UV filters in your AC for in room purification.
1. After you treat the plant(s), there may appear to be some residual pm on some leaves. It is dead pm, so do not spray again like I did the first time, as it will slow your plant down a little. One spray/dunk is enough. I have one strain that is impervious to almost everything except for pm, with Eagle, the strain is back at the top of my list.
2. In CA, we must have the right licensing or documentation to purchase/use these compounds. Many suppliers will ship to CA 'assuming' you have the right paperwork. It is up to you to prove it should a question arise later. The chances of this happening are negligible.
Ozone is great stuff too, but use it outside of your room for protection, sort of like the Earth is surrounded by a layer of the stuff. Ozone can destroy the smell of buds... literally, not to mention your lungs. Use UV filters in your AC for in room purification.
Sacred Warrior
New member
what do you folks thnk abottis product?
what do you folks thnk abottis product?
hey krunchbubble45,
1st. thx for the link on eagle 20EW
i saw this on that site http://growerssolution.com/page/GS/PROD/Fungicides/71-2879
and the cost is well awesome.
Choose MilStop for curative control of powdery mildews and preventative control of most other foliar diseases. This potassium bicarbonate-based foliar fungicide kills powdery mildew on contact pulling water from spores and their growing strands. It also inhibits enzymes involved in fungal cell wall formation by altering the pH on the leaf surface. There is no known resistance to MilStop; an excellent disease management tool as a standalone fungicide for foliar disease control or alternated as part of an integrated pest management program.
what do you folks thnk abottis product?
hey krunchbubble45,
1st. thx for the link on eagle 20EW
i saw this on that site http://growerssolution.com/page/GS/PROD/Fungicides/71-2879
and the cost is well awesome.
Choose MilStop for curative control of powdery mildews and preventative control of most other foliar diseases. This potassium bicarbonate-based foliar fungicide kills powdery mildew on contact pulling water from spores and their growing strands. It also inhibits enzymes involved in fungal cell wall formation by altering the pH on the leaf surface. There is no known resistance to MilStop; an excellent disease management tool as a standalone fungicide for foliar disease control or alternated as part of an integrated pest management program.
Hack
Member
Eagle 20 Rocks
Eagle 20 Rocks
another believer!
After my first go round with pm in good old dry Colorado after many years of growing, left me humbled and seriously considering retiring.
Yes all the products are just bandaids and a serious grower needs serious products!
another story of taking infected clones from clone sellers when I new better.
started whole operation from seeds, while waiting for seeds to arrive i had many hours to spend researching pm and then ran across this thread.
also found that mildew once established will thrive in a room at any level of humidity even a consistent 30 percent.
found specs of it on fresh seedlings after installing hepa intakes and sterilizing the room and repainting, first two rooms got sprayed with 2ml of eagle and penetrator just one application at end of second week of flower, these rooms are days from harvest and only found 2 tiny specs of it on leaf tips. next two rooms were sprayed once in early veg and again at end of second week of flower these two rooms are in third week of flower.
I am trying to determine now whether one application in early veg will carry it systemically through flower. I believe thorough application with surficant is very important while keeping steady agitation in the sprayer throughout. make sure to use good respirator when applying
spending time with your plants and finding early signs of pm is very important and finding it before it sporulates.
I am a believer now and will post more results when other rooms are finished.
thanks crunch for sharing this amazing solution with the community, hats off to you.
Eagle 20 Rocks
another believer!
After my first go round with pm in good old dry Colorado after many years of growing, left me humbled and seriously considering retiring.
Yes all the products are just bandaids and a serious grower needs serious products!
another story of taking infected clones from clone sellers when I new better.
started whole operation from seeds, while waiting for seeds to arrive i had many hours to spend researching pm and then ran across this thread.
also found that mildew once established will thrive in a room at any level of humidity even a consistent 30 percent.
found specs of it on fresh seedlings after installing hepa intakes and sterilizing the room and repainting, first two rooms got sprayed with 2ml of eagle and penetrator just one application at end of second week of flower, these rooms are days from harvest and only found 2 tiny specs of it on leaf tips. next two rooms were sprayed once in early veg and again at end of second week of flower these two rooms are in third week of flower.
I am trying to determine now whether one application in early veg will carry it systemically through flower. I believe thorough application with surficant is very important while keeping steady agitation in the sprayer throughout. make sure to use good respirator when applying
spending time with your plants and finding early signs of pm is very important and finding it before it sporulates.
I am a believer now and will post more results when other rooms are finished.
thanks crunch for sharing this amazing solution with the community, hats off to you.
kstampy
Member
I'm convinced... anyone know where to get this in stores in socal? Thx KB... +Rep
Edit: Skipped the last couple of pages since it was 2 AM lol. Thanks moonrock for letting us know about the necessity for a license in CA, ordered from the Tampa agriculture site. Thanks cyat I will remember that next time I hit vegas!
Will give you guys a follow up when the next batch has gone through. I eradicated PM from doing a bleach wash (floor to fkn ceiling) for quite a few runs until my power went out for 3.5 hours and no genny :/.
Edit: Skipped the last couple of pages since it was 2 AM lol. Thanks moonrock for letting us know about the necessity for a license in CA, ordered from the Tampa agriculture site. Thanks cyat I will remember that next time I hit vegas!
Will give you guys a follow up when the next batch has gone through. I eradicated PM from doing a bleach wash (floor to fkn ceiling) for quite a few runs until my power went out for 3.5 hours and no genny :/.
Stuntin101
New member
Hack how do your plants do spraying them 2 weeks into flower. I'm considering spraying mine 2 weeks in just to make sure. I don't see any pm right now, but I just want to make sure. Thanks in advance.
Hack
Member
I am pulling two room s of plants a week a part at the 60 day mark, which is in about a week. i sprayed those at end of second week of flower and saw no problems with performance of plant or any damage to the pistils. My first go round with eagle I wanted to make sure and get as much systemic protection as possible. I have a dozen LUI13's in another room that got sprayed at about four weeks of veg and they are finishing their sixth week of flower now, these plants had what looked like a pinkish strain of mildew on them in a few spots and I have not seen it since. It would be nice to know if just one treatment in early veg will take most eight week strains through, time will tell. with dmsters penetrator at 2ml a gallon I went through four gallons of spray on 32 plants and the stuff does stink like a bitch, but a grower will do most anything to keep the girls disease free. I am trying to come up with a spray program that works without going overboard, once the spores start flying in a grow area the shit is really a bitch to deal with. I am sleeping much better at night knowing I have eagle on my shelf.
Marvin Jane
New member
Eagle 20 and Mother plants
Eagle 20 and Mother plants
Hey Krunch, great thread.
I have read it all, but haven't seen this:
If I treat a favorite Mother plant with Eagle 20, will the clones be PM free?
Thanks
Eagle 20 and Mother plants
Hey Krunch, great thread.
I have read it all, but haven't seen this:
If I treat a favorite Mother plant with Eagle 20, will the clones be PM free?
Thanks
calstar
Member
Hey Hack, using a systemic during flower???? Just saying...earlier posts indicate thats a no-no. Anyone know the longevity of the Eagle in the plants system(pretty sure it has to be at least 20 days)?? How about health risks from ingesting if the eagle's still in the flowers? From the label, and the fact in ca. you are supposed to be licensed to use it, indicates some potentially bad effects.
Hack
Member
Okay, so if I sprayed at day 14 and I am pulling at day 63 thats 50 days until harvest so thats almost double the time that the specs for eagle say it will stay in the plant, I don't see the problem? I am going to take a few samples to full spectrum a cannabis testing facility in Colorado just for shits and giggles and see what there analysis comes up with.
It seems grape growers use it extensively in the wine making industry does that make it right? I don't know. Just glad I don't see the scourge anymore. After being in love with growing for many years I would almost rather retire from it than go through another cycle of PM, its worse than any mite, thrip, whitefly, or root aphid I have ever battled.
It seems grape growers use it extensively in the wine making industry does that make it right? I don't know. Just glad I don't see the scourge anymore. After being in love with growing for many years I would almost rather retire from it than go through another cycle of PM, its worse than any mite, thrip, whitefly, or root aphid I have ever battled.
P. Dondrub
Member
tell em to search for triazoles if your gonna bother bringing it to full spectrum. Their website seems to indicate they don't check for that type of chemical.
mr cheese
Member
havent read the whole thread so forgive me if its already been said..
why are all you guys using chemicals to stop pm?? hell iv jst read someone using chemicals in flower! wtf???
best bit is your paying 69.99 for chemicals when you can go to any supermarket and buy a product that ppl bake with everyday for pennies that stops powdery mildew dead! anyone knw what product i mean??
so pls pls stop using nasty ass chemicals jst to treat pm and go get urself some bicarbonate of soda (baking powder) frm any local food shop and save urself a few quid as a bonus! lol.
trust me it works! anyone want to knw more, like dilute rates ect ect jst ask k... stay safe..c
why are all you guys using chemicals to stop pm?? hell iv jst read someone using chemicals in flower! wtf???
best bit is your paying 69.99 for chemicals when you can go to any supermarket and buy a product that ppl bake with everyday for pennies that stops powdery mildew dead! anyone knw what product i mean??
so pls pls stop using nasty ass chemicals jst to treat pm and go get urself some bicarbonate of soda (baking powder) frm any local food shop and save urself a few quid as a bonus! lol.
trust me it works! anyone want to knw more, like dilute rates ect ect jst ask k... stay safe..c
P. Dondrub
Member
no it doesn't work. eagle works. sodium bicarbonate can kill a few of the flowering bodies, but that wont get you very far with pm.
Even most organic pesticides are illegal to use on cannabis, ever read the instructions?
ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW TO USE THIS PRODUCT IN A MANNER THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH ITS LABELING.
when's the last time you saw something labeled for cannabis?
Are you one of those people that would rather smoke a lot of pyrethrin and neem instead of something that was sprayed on the plant months ago that likely has no residual in the dried flower?
You are not socially responsible with your post, because it doesn't help anyone move forward with a functional solution to the issues.
Hack: please take it to fullspectrum, tell em to test it for triazoles, and post the report in this thread! Would be helpful. thanks
bicycle racer
Member
sodium bicarb potassium bicarb(green cure) serenade neem pyrethrum milk(lol) sm-90 and other oil products do not work for more than a few days only band aids. the only thing that does work are systemics like eagle 20. by the way eagle is not the only 1 available that works there is another one i forget the name.
bicycle racer
Member
yes most likely but why not spray again it has no effect on cannabis plants does not burn like neem or do any damage. at least spray again at onset of 12/12. eagle rocks
That's been my experience using it. I've been using it for over a year I'd guess. Pretty much forget what it looks like until I get a clone from someone else
