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The use of our planet is no longer sustainable
- Thread starter MoldyFrogToe
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~fvk~
the Lion is going Guerrilla...
As you should and as do I, especially against tyrant pigs.
So nobody knows I got busted? I assumed you people pretty much had your perception of MY life figured out.
They took everything, but my basic freedom, which I fought for, and won, and will continue to fight for, in a community of people who appreciate your fucking existence, instead of leaching off of it.
as i stated before we are a flawed species...
You got busted fvk?
~fvk~
the Lion is going Guerrilla...
Yeah bro, all sorts of shit went down. That's partially why I haven't been around much lately.
I fought the "law," and I won. I suggest for those who cherish Liberty to do the same as well.
I'm taking it to my backyard, cornfields, and forests. Nature was meant to be free, not imprisoned. Fuck your 250 watts, if that's all "you're" willing to "give" me.
I ordered a bunch of decent genetics not too long ago, I ate them all in order to reincarnate cannabis if I were to die in fighting them, which I once again, came pretty damn close to.
Oh, and I'm from Illinoize. I'm sure many of you know exactly who I am, and honestly, I could care less, I wanted you to.
And yeah, the name's "Corey."
I fought the "law," and I won. I suggest for those who cherish Liberty to do the same as well.
I'm taking it to my backyard, cornfields, and forests. Nature was meant to be free, not imprisoned. Fuck your 250 watts, if that's all "you're" willing to "give" me.
I ordered a bunch of decent genetics not too long ago, I ate them all in order to reincarnate cannabis if I were to die in fighting them, which I once again, came pretty damn close to.
Oh, and I'm from Illinoize. I'm sure many of you know exactly who I am, and honestly, I could care less, I wanted you to.
And yeah, the name's "Corey."
Rip Bong Winkle
Member
If natural events could wipe out the dinosaurs, what makes everyone so sure humans are impervious to extinction?
There is a better chance of that next big asteroid passing by, 1 in 250,000, destroying earth than you winning the lotto, about 1 in 140million.
There is a better chance of that next big asteroid passing by, 1 in 250,000, destroying earth than you winning the lotto, about 1 in 140million.
I can't feed myself? Hahahaha. Then again I do live on a chunk of land that is still somewhat unspoiled, but the soil is poor so I need horse manure by the dump truck. Good thing the guy gives it away free. Haha that was a good one man.
-You will need to feed yourself eventually, or at least contribute to your community. If you can't do everything by yourself you must do things for others, and I guarantee you that someday soon the usd will be useless. For whatever reason, it could be anything.
-A gun is a good device for preventing people from thieving your food, water, supplies, or killing you and then taking over what you had for yourself and community. Brag about it maybe, but a stick or a rock won't do much good against a bullet.
-You will need to feed yourself eventually, or at least contribute to your community. If you can't do everything by yourself you must do things for others, and I guarantee you that someday soon the usd will be useless. For whatever reason, it could be anything.
-A gun is a good device for preventing people from thieving your food, water, supplies, or killing you and then taking over what you had for yourself and community. Brag about it maybe, but a stick or a rock won't do much good against a bullet.
~fvk~
the Lion is going Guerrilla...
Pretty much. At least an asteroid wont entice you with lies.
I don't really need to know anything about you. Unless you are part of the 1% of 1% who actually farms and produces more food then they consume, then I am correct.
And I don't need to be politically correct to observe and point out the absolute stupidity of most of the posters. I've given up on trying to have logical arguments with emotional people. I just take comfort in the fact that if and when the shit hits the fan, I'll be here and they will not.
The forward from "Jurassic Park" is worth a read or a listen here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVIlEatFPvU
worth a listen.
There is no data.
There is nothing to solve.
There is no problem.
The sad thing is that you put forth a pretty colorful brochure full of nonsense as fact, when it is not fact. The WWF is a known agenda driven propaganda machine. They are still telling school kids that polar bears are dying on ice floes and endangered when the fact of the matter they are abundant today, and they routinely swim up to 60 miles at sea from ice to ice. You see a picture of a polar bear on a piece of ice and you send your money to the WWF. Stupidity.
While the US, France UK et.al. are kissing the earth and apologizing for our lifestyles, China is gobbling up resources right under our noses. Life is a competition. You were part of the crowd that got trophies in little league even though your team came in last so you wouldn't understand. Wishing it will never make it true.
Since the day of cavemen, when one tribe had more food, water or women, the stronger competing tribes conquered them and took what they needed.
And that is where we are headed with this bullshit. According to this bullshit (and our socialist president), America must apologize and ask for forgiveness for our consumption of resources. Since no other country can defeat us, they just want us to agree to fine ourselves for our use of carbon and other resources and give it to shitty little corrupt countries that are failing their citizens.
Baloney. We may use the Lion's share of resources, but we produce, build and feed the world.
Grow up.
Idiots All.
MoldyFrogToe
Member
Yeah, anyways, where were we 
Biodiversity assessment
The Global Biodiversity Assessment completed by 1500 scientists under the auspices of UNEP in 1995 updated what we know, or more correctly how little we know, about global biological diversity at the ecosystem, species and genetic levels (Heywood, 1995). The assessment was uncertain of the total number of species on Earth within an order of magnitude. Of its working figure of 13 million species, only 13% have been scientifically described. Ecological community diversity is also poorly known, as is its relationship to biological diversity, and genetic diversity has been studied for only a small number of species. The effects of human activities on biodiversity have increased so greatly that the rate of species extinctions is rising to hundreds or thousands of times the background level. These losses are driven by increasing demands on species and their habitats, and by the failure of current market systems to value biodiversity adequately. The Assessment calls for urgent action to reverse these trends (Heywood, 1996).
There has been a new recognition of the importance of protecting marine and aquatic biodiversity. The first quantitative estimates of species losses due to growing coral reef destruction predict that almost 200,000 species, or one in five presently contributing to coral reef biodiversity, could die out in the next 40 years if human pressures on reefs continue to increase (Reaka-Kudla, 1996).
Since Rio, many countries have improved their understanding of the status and importance of their biodiversity, particularly through biodiversity country studies such as those prepared under the auspices of UNEP/GEF. The United Kingdom identified 1250 species needing monitoring, of which 400 require action plans to ensure their survival (Bendall, 1996). Protective measures for biodiversity, such as legislation to protect species, can prove effective. In the USA, almost 40 percent of the plants and animals protected under the Endangered Species Act are now stable or improving as a direct result of recovery efforts (USFWS, 1994). Some African countries have joined efforts to protect threatened species through the 1994 Lusaka Agreement, and more highly migratory species are being protected by specialized cooperative agreements among range states under the Bonn Convention.
There is an emerging realization that a major part of conservation of biological diversity must take place outside of protected areas and involve local communities. The extensive agricultural areas occupied by small farmers contain much biodiversity that is important for sustainable food production. Indigenous agricultural practices have been and continue to be important elements in the maintenance of biodiversity, but these are being displaced and lost. There is a new focus on the interrelationship between agrodiversity conservation and sustainable use and development practices in smallholder agriculture, with emphasis on use of farmers' knowledge and skills as a source of information for sustainable farming (Global Environmental Change: Human and Policy Implications, 1995; Uitto and Ono, 1996).
Perhaps even more important than the loss of biodiversity is the transformation of global biogeochemical cycles, the reduction in the total world biomass, and the decrease in the biological productivity of the planet (Golubev, in litt.). While quantitative measurements are not available, the eventual economic and social consequences may be so significant that the issue requires further attention.
Forest Loss
Crisis in Ocean Fisheries
Atmospheric Nitrogen Saturation
And many more..
Biodiversity assessment
The Global Biodiversity Assessment completed by 1500 scientists under the auspices of UNEP in 1995 updated what we know, or more correctly how little we know, about global biological diversity at the ecosystem, species and genetic levels (Heywood, 1995). The assessment was uncertain of the total number of species on Earth within an order of magnitude. Of its working figure of 13 million species, only 13% have been scientifically described. Ecological community diversity is also poorly known, as is its relationship to biological diversity, and genetic diversity has been studied for only a small number of species. The effects of human activities on biodiversity have increased so greatly that the rate of species extinctions is rising to hundreds or thousands of times the background level. These losses are driven by increasing demands on species and their habitats, and by the failure of current market systems to value biodiversity adequately. The Assessment calls for urgent action to reverse these trends (Heywood, 1996).
There has been a new recognition of the importance of protecting marine and aquatic biodiversity. The first quantitative estimates of species losses due to growing coral reef destruction predict that almost 200,000 species, or one in five presently contributing to coral reef biodiversity, could die out in the next 40 years if human pressures on reefs continue to increase (Reaka-Kudla, 1996).
Since Rio, many countries have improved their understanding of the status and importance of their biodiversity, particularly through biodiversity country studies such as those prepared under the auspices of UNEP/GEF. The United Kingdom identified 1250 species needing monitoring, of which 400 require action plans to ensure their survival (Bendall, 1996). Protective measures for biodiversity, such as legislation to protect species, can prove effective. In the USA, almost 40 percent of the plants and animals protected under the Endangered Species Act are now stable or improving as a direct result of recovery efforts (USFWS, 1994). Some African countries have joined efforts to protect threatened species through the 1994 Lusaka Agreement, and more highly migratory species are being protected by specialized cooperative agreements among range states under the Bonn Convention.
There is an emerging realization that a major part of conservation of biological diversity must take place outside of protected areas and involve local communities. The extensive agricultural areas occupied by small farmers contain much biodiversity that is important for sustainable food production. Indigenous agricultural practices have been and continue to be important elements in the maintenance of biodiversity, but these are being displaced and lost. There is a new focus on the interrelationship between agrodiversity conservation and sustainable use and development practices in smallholder agriculture, with emphasis on use of farmers' knowledge and skills as a source of information for sustainable farming (Global Environmental Change: Human and Policy Implications, 1995; Uitto and Ono, 1996).
Perhaps even more important than the loss of biodiversity is the transformation of global biogeochemical cycles, the reduction in the total world biomass, and the decrease in the biological productivity of the planet (Golubev, in litt.). While quantitative measurements are not available, the eventual economic and social consequences may be so significant that the issue requires further attention.
Forest Loss
Crisis in Ocean Fisheries
Atmospheric Nitrogen Saturation
And many more..
Yeah, anyways, where were we
Biodiversity assessment
The Global Biodiversity Assessment completed by 1500 scientists under the auspices of UNEP in 1995 updated what we know, or more correctly how little we know, about global biological diversity at the ecosystem, species and genetic levels (Heywood, 1995). The assessment was uncertain of the total number of species on Earth within an order of magnitude. Of its working figure of 13 million species, only 13% have been scientifically described. Ecological community diversity is also poorly known, as is its relationship to biological diversity, and genetic diversity has been studied for only a small number of species. The effects of human activities on biodiversity have increased so greatly that the rate of species extinctions is rising to hundreds or thousands of times the background level. These losses are driven by increasing demands on species and their habitats, and by the failure of current market systems to value biodiversity adequately. The Assessment calls for urgent action to reverse these trends (Heywood, 1996).
There has been a new recognition of the importance of protecting marine and aquatic biodiversity. The first quantitative estimates of species losses due to growing coral reef destruction predict that almost 200,000 species, or one in five presently contributing to coral reef biodiversity, could die out in the next 40 years if human pressures on reefs continue to increase (Reaka-Kudla, 1996).
Since Rio, many countries have improved their understanding of the status and importance of their biodiversity, particularly through biodiversity country studies such as those prepared under the auspices of UNEP/GEF. The United Kingdom identified 1250 species needing monitoring, of which 400 require action plans to ensure their survival (Bendall, 1996). Protective measures for biodiversity, such as legislation to protect species, can prove effective. In the USA, almost 40 percent of the plants and animals protected under the Endangered Species Act are now stable or improving as a direct result of recovery efforts (USFWS, 1994). Some African countries have joined efforts to protect threatened species through the 1994 Lusaka Agreement, and more highly migratory species are being protected by specialized cooperative agreements among range states under the Bonn Convention.
There is an emerging realization that a major part of conservation of biological diversity must take place outside of protected areas and involve local communities. The extensive agricultural areas occupied by small farmers contain much biodiversity that is important for sustainable food production. Indigenous agricultural practices have been and continue to be important elements in the maintenance of biodiversity, but these are being displaced and lost. There is a new focus on the interrelationship between agrodiversity conservation and sustainable use and development practices in smallholder agriculture, with emphasis on use of farmers' knowledge and skills as a source of information for sustainable farming (Global Environmental Change: Human and Policy Implications, 1995; Uitto and Ono, 1996).
Perhaps even more important than the loss of biodiversity is the transformation of global biogeochemical cycles, the reduction in the total world biomass, and the decrease in the biological productivity of the planet (Golubev, in litt.). While quantitative measurements are not available, the eventual economic and social consequences may be so significant that the issue requires further attention.
Forest Loss
Crisis in Ocean Fisheries
Atmospheric Nitrogen Saturation
And many more..
LOL - you quote the UN?
Are you telling me that our world's forests are in worse shape today then 200 years ago?
LOL
I agree, we have to stop it with the attitude that living in excess is our birthright, and see the dignity of living modestly, living good but not over indulging or being wasteful or greedy or selfish. Honorable humility, I guess you could call it. We need to use renewables as much as possible, as soon as possible. Cut back on meat. we can all do something.
Well I grow 3 tons of coconut meat (copra) every 3 months and that's more than I can consume.....I also grow more bananas and papayas, tomatoes and aubergines (egg-plant) than I can eat......and I have a prawn hatchery where I can make millions of prawn fry to grow out in 9 hectares of fish-pan to maturity if I want.......so I can be self-sufficient if I want to.....
....so if the proverbial fecal matter does hit the oscillating fan ......then I might have half a chance to survive.......as long as I can protect the land....
....so if the proverbial fecal matter does hit the oscillating fan ......then I might have half a chance to survive.......as long as I can protect the land....
Nikola Tesla & Free Energy technology ..discovered around 100 years ago
Nikola Tesla & Free Energy technology ..discovered around 100 years ago
First of ..WWF is nothing but a propaganda ”outfit” funded by Rockefellers and these guys …oil-men!! …think about it, any conflicts of interests??!!! ..of course not (Rockefellers & co. prolly will make billions and billions with THEIR “green energy”)
Here’ how you sustain Earth for prolly more than 10 billion people ..brought to us by Nikola Tesla and these guys.. this Ether-technology is also KEPT away from humanity by these same oilers who fund WWF & Greenpeace etc ..they actually started out/created these organizations in the first place (“to stear the conversation to THEIR liking) …put I have a heavy pot-paranoia, so don’t listen to anything that I say ..heh-heh …I just make things up all the time ..all of it.)
Check this link-thread out ..might be abit scientific, but not any type of boring (sophist bull shit) math and diagrams.. and you have to do pretty much all the research/reading, so ..
..maybe not for “children” who like their “potatoes peeled for them by mommy” and who like to call “conspiracy nuts” names (sorry ..this is a pay back ..lol.)
Nikola Tesla & Free Energy technology ..discovered around 100 years ago
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=163736
Nikola Tesla & Free Energy technology ..discovered around 100 years ago
First of ..WWF is nothing but a propaganda ”outfit” funded by Rockefellers and these guys …oil-men!! …think about it, any conflicts of interests??!!! ..of course not (Rockefellers & co. prolly will make billions and billions with THEIR “green energy”)
Here’ how you sustain Earth for prolly more than 10 billion people ..brought to us by Nikola Tesla and these guys.. this Ether-technology is also KEPT away from humanity by these same oilers who fund WWF & Greenpeace etc ..they actually started out/created these organizations in the first place (“to stear the conversation to THEIR liking) …put I have a heavy pot-paranoia, so don’t listen to anything that I say ..heh-heh …I just make things up all the time ..all of it.)
Check this link-thread out ..might be abit scientific, but not any type of boring (sophist bull shit) math and diagrams.. and you have to do pretty much all the research/reading, so ..
..maybe not for “children” who like their “potatoes peeled for them by mommy” and who like to call “conspiracy nuts” names (sorry ..this is a pay back ..lol.)
Nikola Tesla & Free Energy technology ..discovered around 100 years ago
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=163736
OrganicMonkey
Member
I was watching a show on guys cutting scrap metal, from a 747 and a train. They said they can see in some years people going through landfills to reclaim metals out of there. I don't doubt it, it's a matter of it being worth money to go through there.
Forest can't be that bad in America, the Forest Service does a good job. It's about the private lands that have forest, only the hunters that raise game keep nice ones. The more that people with money invest in forested land, the better. Seems all to many would rather buy a fancy house in a crowded estate or buy forest to cut into smaller lots and sell off to pay their loan.
Forest can't be that bad in America, the Forest Service does a good job. It's about the private lands that have forest, only the hunters that raise game keep nice ones. The more that people with money invest in forested land, the better. Seems all to many would rather buy a fancy house in a crowded estate or buy forest to cut into smaller lots and sell off to pay their loan.
My oh my, never heard about Mountaintop Removal ? if you live in US & grow indoor, there are very high probablilities that you're actually smoking the appalachians mountains, valleys & forest.
Lush & green peaks & valleys are turned into sterile plateau, where almost nothing grows because the soil is dead, all the nutriments having been washed away through the human intervention.
no more wildlife and local people are left with a totally destroyed and sterile environment from which, in the past, they could get their sustenance from, but it's just gone, all gobbled by human greed.
http://ilovemountains.org/
Irie !
Of course they are....clear cutting, pulp and paper and deforestation for massive feed crops just did not exist 200 years ago....
The Amazon and most rainforests were untouched 200 years ago...as were old growth forests in BC, Oregon, the entire PNW etc etc etc...
If you can honestly think and say that we are doing NO damage, and everything is hotsy-totsy, and that our forests are in better shape now than they were 200 years ago, you are living in a world of extreme illusion and fantasy, and I pity you for being so totally deluded and brainwashed by whoever told you the bullshit you spew.
