'Boogieman'
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Gerrymandering effects elections on a local level. You can't gerrymandering the presidential race because each candidate gets electoral college points based off a state's popular vote.
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Actually it does effect a presidential election. It's just done on a larger scale.
Thats how trump won without the popular vote. They used Cambridge Analytica and took stolen Facebook data to find key voting districts in swing states. They also targeted impressionable gullible voters and bombarded them to throw the election.
Effectively the decision for the whole country was made by the identified weakest dummies an a handful of swing states. If that's not manipulated voting districts designed to be targeted.......
It has to be the popular vote!
Duped idiots on facebook to download an ap, and share it with their "friends". LOL, I just read about it.
Now that supposedly have 5000 data points on 250 million Americans. I wonder what goog and FB and twatter have on people?
I would love to see what they think about me, as I try to remain anom on the web, and do not use a spy phone.
Now that supposedly have 5000 data points on 250 million Americans. I wonder what goog and FB and twatter have on people?
I would love to see what they think about me, as I try to remain anom on the web, and do not use a spy phone.
'Boogieman'
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Trump won without the popular vote because this country goes by electoral college, it has nothing to do with gerrymandering. In order to get electoral college points you have to win the popular vote of a state period. What you described is just effective campaigning but everyone smart or dumb has the right to vote in America. I will never support going by popular vote of a nation, I believe in the system our founding fathers intended.
Boogie, It's the few controlling the many by whatever means necessary.
Just like Roe v Wade - Only 25% want that overturned.
always bending the truth to suit your twisted narratives...
the award was given to president obama in october 2009... at which point the united states was involved in 2 conflicts;
both started by bush, a republican.
we were not at war/conflict with 7 countries at that time, we were stuck in 2 conflicts which were inherited.
people on the noble peace prize committee are not psychics...
they had no idea in 2009 what was to come in 2011
you just hate president obama
The electoral college are unelected figures. They only "pledge" to the voters that they will vote for whoever the voters vote for. A pledge don't mean shit to me.
And aren't each states electoral voters based on whichever party has control over that state or control of the most districts? If so then gerrymandering 100% is relevant here.
And aren't each states electoral voters based on whichever party has control over that state or control of the most districts? If so then gerrymandering 100% is relevant here.
A VPN is a good start.
I think all of us would be amazed with what they have on us.
Dam internet works against us in allot of ways.
'Boogieman'
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Everyone can go to a voting booth and vote no matter what district you are in. Obama won my red state in 2008 , gerrymandering definitely effects local elections but it has no impact on a state's popular vote.
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xavier7995
On sort of a philosophical level though, how can anyone justify a system where any one persons vote counts more than anothers, due to where they live. Its disproportionate representation. We should all have an equal say, but this weird population weighting makes that impossible. We have the technology to do it now, we aren't delivering ballots on horseback anymore. We can accurately count the popular vote and I think anyone would be hard pressed to make a legitimate argument for why we shouldnt.
'Boogieman'
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Wow, I honestly don't think some of you guys even know what gerrymandering is.
Cuddles
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Ah
I have heard evencamericans say that this system is impossible to explain.
The make up of the house of commons seems rather simple by comparison. Or is it very similar?
PS I´ve been drinking
Why can´t live and politics be more simple? Everything is just so mirky and dirty and deceitful
you know, I never got my head round this sytem. Maybe coz I´m not american myself, or maybe because it doesn´t make any sense at all, maybe coz I´m too dense or have just never tried hard enough, or maybe coz noone has ever explained it to me properly
I have heard evencamericans say that this system is impossible to explain.
The make up of the house of commons seems rather simple by comparison. Or is it very similar?
PS I´ve been drinking
Why can´t live and politics be more simple? Everything is just so mirky and dirty and deceitful
'Boogieman'
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I believe that would lead to one party rule which would be downright scary especially considering how much many on the left in power hate anyone to the right to them. I personally believe that one of the reasons our founding fathers implemented the electoral college was to prevent one party rule for long periods of time.
I was specifically referring to the Electoral College and how they are "elected" and vote.
yes and the EC in 2008 Indiana pledged to vote for whoever won the popular vote. which obviously doesnt happen nationally otherwise trump would have lost.
From Indiana's wiki;
'Boogieman'
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I will have to look into who they voted for but if I remember right Indiana went to Obama in 2008. I agree having electors is just retarded and isn't needed, once the people choose you that should be it.
Ah
you know, I never got my head round this sytem. Maybe coz I´m not american myself, or maybe because it doesn´t make any sense at all, maybe coz I´m too dense or have just never tried hard enough, or maybe coz noone has ever explained it to me properly
I have heard evencamericans say that this system is impossible to explain.
The make up of the house of commons seems rather simple by comparison. Or is it very similar?
PS I´ve been drinking
Why can´t live and politics be more simple? Everything is just so mirky and dirty and deceitful
We were separate states. In joining the union, the less populated states would have been overran by the heavily populated ones. All the perks would go to the populated area. The electoral college was a compromise.
Maybe not the best compromise...none of them are.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Transition-Integrity-Project-Report.pdf
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spooky what the left has planned...
The Left has big plans for this election, and we could be just four weeks away from the fundamental transformation of America. They've been building a network of street activists since 2008, and the plan is to unleash them on November 3. Tonight Glenn reveals everything: how the Arab Spring and Occupy Wall Street weren't spontaneous uprisings, how they inspired a new era in left-wing activism, and how this newly evolved street movement has been behind nearly every major leftist movement over the past several years. But in their own words, that was just the warm-up. The real movement begins in about one month. Glenn takes you line by line, from their own documents, to show you the four scenarios Democrats have planned and also equips you with the action plan to prepare for election night and the weeks to follow.
Civil War: The Left's Election-Night War Game
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Switcher56
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Welcome to politics!Ah
you know, I never got my head round this sytem. Maybe coz I´m not american myself, or maybe because it doesn´t make any sense at all, maybe coz I´m too dense or have just never tried hard enough, or maybe coz noone has ever explained it to me properly
I have heard evencamericans say that this system is impossible to explain.
The make up of the house of commons seems rather simple by comparison. Or is it very similar?
PS I´ve been drinking
Why can´t live and politics be more simple? Everything is just so mirky and dirty and deceitful
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