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The Trump Countdown Thread

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unclefishstick

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You better be careful that fishstick guy is not joking. He has banned me twice.


DO NOT call him bikeboy......that pisses him off.




:thank you:


I had time in my solitude to analyze my evil ways, and im a better person for it.


I understand now he was just trying to help me help myself, be a better person.


It worked, look how great I am!




so probably not a great idea to go right back to the same thing that got you banned the last two times is it?


just an fyi,next time it's permanent,you've already run out of rope to hang yourself with so probably a better idea to stay off my radar for a spell...
 

mean mr.mustard

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It's laughable how childish "men" can get. Cosmic Giggle has been helping you avoid getting banned.

She caught flak from you for it.

Then you whine further about leaving, yet stick around just to get lippy.

Just get banned and grow a couple more sock puppets.

Or go knock on doors and describe what is so cool about Trump.
 

med4u

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It's laughable how childish "men" can get. Cosmic Giggle has been helping you avoid getting banned.

She caught flak from you for it.

Then you whine further about leaving, yet stick around just to get lippy.

Just get banned and grow a couple more sock puppets.

Or go knock on doors and describe what is so cool about Trump.

Who's a nosy parker?
 

Crooked8

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He has a point. I called nitro a xxxxx and it got edited. Fair is fair. I was unaware i was violating. Especially considering the countless personal insults i received that received no editing. But its alllll good. No favoritism here ;)
 
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mean mr.mustard

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If the shoe fits let it ride.

He's leaving anyway....

PS I laughed heartily when he insinuated all Republicans are racist.

Still am giggling to be honest.
 

'Boogieman'

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:shooty:
 

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mean mr.mustard

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Boogie, your memes are like a small fart....

While ostensibly useless, when they show up I know that I'm pretty much done with this shit.

Thanks.

Good night.

:joint:
 

Crooked8

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I find it funny lol, the biden ones, the trump memes, gotta keep the humor allowed or were fucked. At that point i quit everything lol.
 

Crooked8

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My conclusion so far is that mainly the people (admittedly I am one of them)who listen to MSM and the obvious information sources are considered “duped” and hypnotized by them and cannot think for themselves by people leaning to the right. It gets more extreme here and there, but honestly can we trust MSM? As much as I want to believe all the shit I hear on MSNBC, CNN, FOX(yes i watch them all) its impossible to know whats true for sure. Its so polarized. EVERYONE is speculating and for as many times as ive said i know something is a fact someone else feels the same about something i consider super false. Where do we go from here? How can we find common ground? Is anyone else frustrated by the divide? We gotta stop shit talking and try to see other peoples perspectives or were all on track to the worst shape weve ever been in.
 
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Gypsy Nirvana

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- yep - its the media cooking up most all of these divisions within society - look to who owns and controls most of it - then consider who you are not allowed to criticise - and why - then you will find a whole ideology behind it that is hell-bent on causing conflict amongst the masses - because there is more profit for them in conflict than peace - and that pans out historically to be true - if only people would study history - it wouldn't be able to repeat itself so often -

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h.h.

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Blaming the msm...continuing the cop out. We pick our beliefs, then we pick our channel.
 

Switcher56

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- yep - its the media cooking up most all of these divisions within society - look to who owns and controls most of it - then consider who you are not allowed to criticise - and why - then you will find a whole ideology behind it that is hell-bent on causing conflict amongst the masses - because there is more profit for them in conflict than peace - and that pans out historically to be true - if only people would study history - it wouldn't be able to repeat itself so often -

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Only if you don't erase it!
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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- sometimes it becomes quite obvious -

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The genocidal war that the apartheid Israeli state has waged on the Gaza Strip has generated an unprecedented wave of international public condemnation and international solidarity with the Palestinians. Graphic images of unimaginable destruction and heaps of dismembered and shattered bodies of innocent children flooded social media. Circulating in the context of the recent history of a series of Israeli military incursions into Gaza (first in 2008 and again in 2012), these images prompted hundreds of thousands of people to take to the streets around the world to demand an end to the Israeli occupation and ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

Hasbara engineers have therefore resorted to three main strategies to deal with the political fallout from the Gaza genocide. First, they desperately launched blackmail campaigns that attempted to conflate the irrational fear and hatred of Jews (anti-Semitism), which is unacceptable, with the legitimate critique of the apartheid Israeli state (anti-Zionism).

Linking any criticism of the Israeli genocidal policies to anti-Semitism has become an issue of contention for a growing number people around the world who clearly reject such extortion. Even the Hamas leadership has jumped on the issue, making it clear that “We do not actually fight the Jews because they are Jews, per se. We do not fight any other races. We fight the occupiers.”

Underlying this international solidarity with the Palestinian is the increasing worldwide awareness of Israel’s fake victimisation posturing. Palestinians are fighting a colonial occupier who has been represented in the annals of European history as the “ultimate victim”. Zionists have adopted the absurd claim that every Jew is born a victim, repackaging genocide in the rhetoric of “self-defence”. More and more people, however, realise that the Israeli apartheid state’s policy of ethnic cleansing in Palestine and violating Palestinian rights at a massive scale since the Nakba of 1948 is far from “self-defence”.

To paraphrase the Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Zizek, it is almost impossible for Palestinians to resist their Zionist colonial occupiers without being demonised and branded as anti-Semitic.

Forced false choices

The second major strategy of hasbara engineers is their attempt to force the international public to make a choice between Israel and Hamas. However, many people and political entities around the world reject this false choice, opting to side with the oppressed civilians who have no way to flee or seek shelter in the open-air prison known as Gaza.

The genocidal war on Gaza has made it evident that, especially in the West, a split exists between the political elite on the one hand, and civil society and the international solidarity movement on the other. Undoubtedly, criticism did come, though maybe a little late, from Israel’s closest allies. There were even a few cases of defection from the ranks of their political elites (most notably the UK minister Baroness Warsi), with some even heeding Amnesty International’s call for an arms embargo against Israel and for Israel’s human rights violations to be referred to the International Criminal Court. Indeed, Palestine has for the first time become a bone of contention in the domestic politics of some Western countries.

In general, however, those in the corridors of power remain largely entrapped within the dominant narrative that the apartheid Israeli state peddles to justify the carnage in Gaza. Many world leaders, including United States President Barack Obama and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, have toed the hasbara line in their defence of Israel’s genocidal war.

At the same time, outrage at Israel’s actions was most visible at the grass-root level. Indeed, larger numbers of young people have been reported to attend these rallies, protests, and demonstrations in support of Gaza. Recent polls also indicate that younger Americans are growing increasingly critical of Israel’s apartheid policies in Palestine. The younger generation is increasingly dissatisfied with their governments’ complicity in the perpetuation of Israeli war crimes.

The diversity of solidarity

Finally, hasbara engineers have tried to dismiss and demonise this groundswell of international solidarity with Palestinians by presenting it as an exclusively Muslim cause. Rallies in support of Palestine have always been diverse gatherings of people of all faiths and ethnicities. Condemnation of Israeli crimes has come from all around the world, including from Israeli intellectuals, international political figures and prominent academics. Even Israeli citizens have mobilised against the war in Gaza, against the hostile current of the majority.

Most importantly, this hasbara contention conveniently ignores the deafening silence and clear standoffish position of many Muslim and Arab states on the Gaza genocide. In fact, the overwhelmingly Catholic Latin America has been at the forefront of international condemnation of Israel’s actions. Many Latin American countries vehemently denounced the Israeli genocidal war in Gaza; some have suspended their economic cooperation with Israel and others have recalled their ambassadors from Tel Aviv.

The outpouring of international solidarity for Palestine has clearly transcended the confines of identity politics and geography. It has emphasised that Palestinian lives are no less valuable than Israeli lives and that the international human rights regime should apply to both equally.

Indeed, as appalling as it sounds, dominant Zionist hasbara narratives have tried to criminalise the humanity of Palestinians, making it controversial to even acknowledge it and mourn their deaths. As Bayan Abu Sneineh states, “Not only are Palestinian bodies dehumanised, but they are also cast off as unreal. … Their lives are not liveable and their deaths are not grievable. If Palestinian lives are not seen as lives, then are their deaths even considered real deaths?”

But this time, Israel’s hasbara apparatus has clearly underestimated the extent to which global outrage at the Israeli genocide in Gaza has catapulted the Palestinian issue back to the centre of the global political stage. As long as the international solidarity movement insists on this commitment to the humanity and the human rights of the Palestinians, on the desire to ease the suffering of the oppressed, state hasbara will fail in its effort to delegitimise the grievances of the Palestinians. -

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/8/22/the-grand-failure-of-israeli-hasbara/
 
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