The Trump Countdown Thread

[BearCreekFarms]

hunter........russian collusion..........


https://www.zerohedge.com/political...tigate-hunter-bidens-35-million-moscow-payday

 

[S2 really]

Those same people are overjoyed that Barr re-instituted the federal death penalty.

There could be some overlap there. The rationale I've seen is that the unborn are the epitome of innocent and a person sentenced to death has made decisions that resulted in that outcome.

 

[audiohi]

Well, the Senate just exposed Hunter yesterday and I beleive that matter is now turned over to DOJ because of some evidence that it ties into human trafficking and other 'white collar' crimes.

link to that, please

 

[BearCreekFarms]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...tigate-hunter-bidens-35-million-moscow-payday

 

[audiohi]

There could be some overlap there. The rationale I've seen is that the unborn are the epitome of innocent and a person sentenced to death has made decisions that resulted in that outcome.

Oh yes. The righteous killing. Legit

 

[Zeez]

Tuesday 9pm est

The Presidential Debates.

 

[buzzmobile]

To those, however, who really love the Union may I not speak?

To those, however, who really love the Union may I not speak?

In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow-countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war.

I just finished reading Abraham Lincoln First Inaugural Address(1861). I had never read it before today. I knew about the "better angels". That comes at the end. Read it for yourself for the first time or again to refresh your memory of the thoughts of Abraham Lincoln before the Civil War. He delivered the Address less than six weeks before the war began. Substitute "Abortion; Voting Rights; Second Amendment; Supreme Court appointments" for the Slavery issue Lincoln refers.

1861 Lincoln's First Inaugural Address

Don't forget to vote on November 3rd.

 

['Boogieman']

and Republicans are pretending to be anti-corporate control and for government by/for the people when the opposite is true, You only need to consider one policy, although there are many.

What business is it of government to control whether a woman decides to get an abortion?

This is big, with Republicans and illustrates just how limited they are in their thinking.

What business is it of the government to say which guns I can own? I personally don't care if a woman gets an abortion, but going against my right to own semi automatic rifles (don't even get me started on fully automatic weapons which should be legal) will force me to side with the right every fucking time.

 

[h.h.]

How on earth is abortion a corporate control issue? Some folks genuinely believe that abortion kills a human being and don't think it should be allowed. IMO worst thing that could happen to abortion is that each state would control the legality- it won't ever be outlawed across the country.

We don’t get to make other people follow our beliefs.

 

[Hammerhead]

What business is it of the government to say which guns I can own? I personally don't care if a woman gets an abortion, but going against my right to own semi automatic rifles (don't even get me started on fully automatic weapons which should be legal) will force me to side with the right every fucking time.

You keep saying this but the court doesn't change laws your state makes. If the SC made every weapon legal your state can still make them illegal.

 

['Boogieman']

You keep saying this but the court doesn't change laws your state makes. If the SC made every weapon legal your state can still make them illegal.

What are you talking about? Semi automatic rifles are perfectly legal and my state doesn't have any laws against automatic weapons, only the federal law prevents the sale and ownership in Indiana, and even then you can still own automatic weapons if you get a permit and pay some money. Indiana has some of the leanest gun laws in the country.

 

[Hammerhead]

What are you talking about? My state doesn't have any laws against automatic weapons, only the federal law prevents ownership in Indiana and even then you can still own automatic weapons if you get a permit. Indiana has some of the leanest gun laws in the country.

I don't know where you live boogie.. I'm just stating a fact that the SC cant change gun laws in states. Whatever your gun laws are in your state is what we have to follow.

 

['Boogieman']

I dont know where you live boogie.. I'm just stating a fact that the SC cant change laws in states.

Then why are people worried about Roe vs Wade if you can just go to a legal state and get an abortion? I'm in Indiana, only federal law prevents my from owning and shooting automatic weapons.

 

[igrowone]

Well, the Senate just exposed Hunter yesterday and I beleive that matter is now turned over to DOJ because of some evidence that it ties into human trafficking and other 'white collar' crimes.

Hempy, haven't you produced many such things that are going into the DOJ?
yet never come out, no prosecutions
just saying we've seen a lot of these, years if I'm not mistaken

 

[armedoldhippy]

You keep saying this but the court doesn't change laws your state makes. If the SC made every weapon legal your state can still make them illegal.

not necessarily. many state gun laws have run afoul of the 2nd amendment in the Supreme court, and rightfully so. the right is terrified that we will end up with gun-grabbers /buy-back enthusiasts in charge, and the left does not want wives, sisters, & daughters to be forced to have children they do not want/cannot support. hmmmm....anyone see a compromise in there? i do, but it will really piss off all of the fucking wingnuts on the fringes of society. everyone hold your noses (FIRMLY!) & repeat with me "okay, fuck it. you leave Roe vs Wade alone, and we will stop trying to take your AR-15s away from you" there, that wasn't so hard, now, was it?

 

[Microbeman]

What business is it of the government to say which guns I can own? I personally don't care if a woman gets an abortion, but going against my right to own semi automatic rifles (don't even get me started on fully automatic weapons which should be legal) will force me to side with the right every fucking time.

That is just evasive. I am not attempting to bolster the DNC rather trying to open your eyes to the poor thought processes exhibited by most of the Republicans.

That you don't care whether a woman is restricted in governing her own body is admirable but that you support a government that cares about it exceedingly is not admirable.

Governing/regulating personal gun possession is akin to seat belts, drivers license, etc. Governing someone's body is far removed from this.

 

[Hammerhead]

Then why are people worried about Roe vs Wade if you can just go to a legal state and get an abortion? I'm in Indiana, only federal law prevents my from owning and shooting automatic weapons.

If Roe were overturned, abortion would stay legal in 21 states; be unprotected by state and district law in five states, the District of Columbia and two U.S. territories; and likely be prohibited in 24 states and three territories,

 

[Hammerhead]

not necessarily. many state gun laws have run afoul of the 2nd amendment in the Supreme court, and rightfully so. the right is terrified that we will end up with gun-grabbers /buy-back enthusiasts in charge, and the left does not want wives, sisters, & daughters to be forced to have children they do not want/cannot support. hmmmm....anyone see a compromise in there? i do, but it will really piss off all of the fucking wingnuts on the fringes of society. everyone hold your noses (FIRMLY!) & repeat with me "okay, fuck it. you leave Roe vs Wade alone, and we will stop trying to take your AR-15s away from you" there, that wasn't so hard, now, was it?

Gun laws are very tricky because of the 2nd. As far as I know the SC cant make guns illegal/legal in states. Its up to them to decide.

 

[Microbeman]

not necessarily. many state gun laws have run afoul of the 2nd amendment in the Supreme court, and rightfully so. the right is terrified that we will end up with gun-grabbers /buy-back enthusiasts in charge, and the left does not want wives, sisters, & daughters to be forced to have children they do not want/cannot support. hmmmm....anyone see a compromise in there? i do, but it will really piss off all of the fucking wingnuts on the fringes of society. everyone hold your noses (FIRMLY!) & repeat with me "okay, fuck it. you leave Roe vs Wade alone, and we will stop trying to take your AR-15s away from you" there, that wasn't so hard, now, was it?

elegant

 

[minds_I]

Looks like the Durham investigation has just usurped the Huber investigation into the Clinton Foundation. Gee, I wonder WHY...

hello all,

It is just noise....the foundation has been investigated before and survived. A disparate move from a nervous campaign. buahahahahahaha

How is the Durham investigation going beyond a third level lawyer and reopening an old tired investigation?

Headlines just before an election...get something fresh ay?

minds_I