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Same clone line for 15+ years and I have seen no change whatsoever, and this is with taking new cuttings every grow.YES IT IS LIKE THAT
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Same clone line for 15+ years and I have seen no change whatsoever, and this is with taking new cuttings every grow.YES IT IS LIKE THAT
Same clone line for 15+ years and I have seen no change whatsoever, and this is with taking new cuttings every grow.
Cheers
Hundreds of those Gypsie Thai packs where sold. I am willing to bet that someone will do a decent job of reproducing it. Hardest part will be finding desirable and stable males and top notch selected females to start refining the line.
But with a thread like this I am sure the sativa heads took note and acted accordingly.
Hey Riddly. You might have misunderstood what I actually do. I have never kept a mother plant, I just take new cuttings off the plant I'm flowering when the plant is turned to 12/12 or within about 6 days after.if you take a cutting from a mother plant that looks robust and vigorous and then every 3 years you repeat the procedure (till you see that the mother doesn't start showing anomalies, like signs of degeneration) then you're safe. even more so the way you do it, that is, taking new cuttings every grow (from the mother not the clones)
If the entire open line with all its genes is conserved/preserved, that is, with the maximum number of possible individuals/specimens there will be no degeneration.
It can lose vigor and degenerate in some cases, when it is not given the means and the optimal conditions, light, water, air, earth.
To avoid degeneration you can clone the mother and continue with the cuttings and "sacrifice" the mother. I would do it after about 3 years. it also depends on how I see it (the mother), and its genetics also do have their influence, they do play their part in this...
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nope , no change ,This raises an interesting question for me. Does the potency of clones deteriorate over time?
If so, this would mean that the job of the breeder doesn't end with finding a grail line and resting on his laurels, but maintaing and reinvigorating that line as well. Hard work!
nope , no change ,
would be pointless to keep them if they degenerated in a short period of time ,
its the same thing as taking a cutting from any other plant ,
all the traits of the mother are present ...
its the same plant ....
ive heard some crazy stoner stories ,
but i can tell you they are not accurate ,
they are simply crazy stoner stories ..
I'm rereading this thread as a prelude to sprouting some 50% Gypsy Thai seeds and some Laos seeds, among others. Since I'm a grower in the very north end of a Mediterranean climate, I'll be making seeds by crossing them with some early flowering genetics. But don't you worry, these early flowering genetics have had Thai crosses blended into them numerous times over the span of 35+ years.Hi all, As most of you know I spent alot of this season growing landrace strains and I must admit I was pleasently surprised how some of them turned out. Some standouts were the Malana Cream from RSC, The Kariba Surprise which was originaly from African Seeds, this strain outdid all the other African strains by a country mile. The Mazar which is from Shanti's collection, this was the best Indica I have ever smoked and it is not only me that has said this.
But little did I know that there would be a surprise waiting for me....As you know I also did alot of Gypsy's Laos and Thai stick and unless you have the patience these are not recommended for the indoor grower or even the outdoor grower unless you have the space and climate, as I have only just harvested them and it is the middle of winter here and I still have one Laos that is only just heading and a few other Thai's still flowering.
I also had problems with the Laos as it had a few hermies amongst them, not so for the Thai's. I also had trouble with the size of these plants and the breaking of branches during storms.
All in all they were a difficult plant to keep healthy and lush, but out of all this trouble came a plant that is exactly like the 70's smoke that we used to get in the form of the Thai stick, this plant produces a stone that is so trippy and long lasting that it leaves you thinking you have just dropped a acid trip and i do not joke.
So for you guys who are willing to try the Thai stick from Gypsy the reward could blow your mind.
On a final note I would like to thank Gypsy for making the effort to find this strain and make it available, you have made a dream come true
Hi Ahortator
Also, for the record, you'll see some huge sativas in the old photos of the Cannabis Castle (I think that is what it was called) in Holland and there used to be photos somewhere on the net of a huge crop in Switzerland in a commercial greenhouse with a 20 foot roof height and the whole crop had hit the roof and run out of room without even starting to flower.
Hi all, As most of you know I spent alot of this season growing landrace strains and I must admit I was pleasently surprised how some of them turned out. Some standouts were the Malana Cream from RSC, The Kariba Surprise which was originaly from African Seeds, this strain outdid all the other African strains by a country mile. The Mazar which is from Shanti's collection, this was the best Indica I have ever smoked and it is not only me that has said this.
But little did I know that there would be a surprise waiting for me....As you know I also did alot of Gypsy's Laos and Thai stick and unless you have the patience these are not recommended for the indoor grower or even the outdoor grower unless you have the space and climate, as I have only just harvested them and it is the middle of winter here and I still have one Laos that is only just heading and a few other Thai's still flowering.
I also had problems with the Laos as it had a few hermies amongst them, not so for the Thai's. I also had trouble with the size of these plants and the breaking of branches during storms.
All in all they were a difficult plant to keep healthy and lush, but out of all this trouble came a plant that is exactly like the 70's smoke that we used to get in the form of the Thai stick, this plant produces a stone that is so trippy and long lasting that it leaves you thinking you have just dropped a acid trip and i do not joke.
So for you guys who are willing to try the Thai stick from Gypsy the reward could blow your mind.
On a final note I would like to thank Gypsy for making the effort to find this strain and make it available, you have made a dream come true
50% Kangativa's Gypsy Thai selection, 25% Mullum, and 25% Neville's Haze:
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Bad Lower Back Super Laos:
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I don't have the right climate, but I'm going to cross these with an earlier ripening line that has had pure Thai introduced into their ancestry more than a few times. I've been hammering S.E. Asian related genetics into these seeds for 40 years with the most recent ones being Kali Mist and Trainwreck. I'm just stubborn that way because Thai and a special Neville's Haze selection I found were among the best highs I've ever had. I smoked Thai sticks for about a decade back in the day. I've not added anything that looks so legit as these since the early 1980s. I'm also am using a Duban Poison to cross them with.
ThaiBliss
50% Kangativa's Gypsy Thai selection, 25% Mullum, and 25% Neville's Haze:
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Bad Lower Back Super Laos:
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I'm just stubborn that way because Thai and a special Neville's Haze selection I found were among the best highs I've ever had.
ThaiBliss