The Thai

[Mimpi Manis]

Well... here's a man who knows what he likes! The best ganja I ever had in my life was a Thai stick gifted to me in 1975. It looked thin-ish, greenish gold and pretty caked. String bound and the real McCoy. I got 1/3 thru the first bit of the one paper racehorse and knew I was onto something. What a ride. Never had anything that good ever again. That's who I'm looking to say hi to after 40 odd years. Seems I'm not the only one she made an indelible impression on.

 

[ThaiBliss]

It may be more than 6 more weeks before I even know the gender:

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[F2F]

It may be more than 6 more weeks before I even know the gender:
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ThaiBliss

Is there a foot tap, look at my watch icon for the Thai posts lol?!

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[ThaiBliss]

You can't hear my foot tapping already? I'm watching for my first pistil from a pre-flower. Nothing.
Luckily, I'm about to harvest a Baglung Nepali, so I'm pleasantly distracted. I just planted two more Nepalese in the hopes of getting a plant to use to cross with the Thai in time. It will also help me tease out the variations of the fine line between auto-flowering and non auto-flowering that I'm not fully understanding yet. They are sprouts, and the race is on. LOL

In the meantime, a bit of Thai phenotype/structure porn from earlier this year:

Here is the Baglung that I might breed to the Thai to get it to finish outdoors here. It is so early that I have hopes that a 50% Thai will work for me at 42 degrees north. This is the second earliest plant I've ever grown in 50 years of growing. I planted this in March. It will be interesting to see if the shortening daylight of the fall will get the new seedlings to flower faster than this plant from the spring planting. I also have a backup plan, a strain I've been breeding for more than 35 years that has been bred to Burmese and a handful of different hybrids with Thai in them. One example is a Trainwreck (Thai, Mexican, Afghani) cut that leaned towards the more clear and cerebral high.
In my opinion, nothing with couch-lock is worthy of a cross to Thai. Nepalese is famous for it's cerebral happy high. This picture was taken a week ago, and I expect to harvest tomorrow:

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[Rodehazrd]

Well... here's a man who knows what he likes! The best ganja I ever had in my life was a Thai stick gifted to me in 1975. It looked thin-ish, greenish gold and pretty caked. String bound and the real McCoy. I got 1/3 thru the first bit of the one paper racehorse and knew I was onto something. What a ride. Never had anything that good ever again. That's who I'm looking to say hi to after 40 odd years. Seems I'm not the only one she made an indelible impression on.

In 1970 a friend sent me a pair of speakers from the px in Nam. Nice set of 88s with a wood grille. A few weeks later he arrived and we took them apart.
One was filled to the brim with Cambodian Red. The other had a variety of Thai sticks and Marlboro boxes filled with OJs. I'll never forget.the Thai.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

An update and a little more backstory to the Gypsy Thai x Neville's 21 x Mullumbimby Madness:

I grew a plant indoors from these seeds before. I let it go for 9 months of flowering. It just kept on throwing pistils until I gave up. Judging by the aromas, I probably should have harvested it at about 7 months. I let it cure for a few months and sampled some. It had a nice high, but no where near as strong as I was expecting. Probably had to do with my indoor skills in combination with perhaps a weak individual. I left some in a jar for a year, and when I opened it up, the aroma had changed from incense to something that reminded me of Thai Stick. Whoa! I was going to try these again.

Now, a number of years later, I decided to give it another go in my greenhouse and make some seeds. Perhaps it needs a cross to something earlier to make a good plant for me indoors or in my greenhouse. Even if it doesn't turn out good, I'll still follow up on the next outcross generation.

I decided to start a dozen plants and select a few that reminded me most of the Thai Stick seeds I attempted to grow back in the 70s. As the seedlings got about a foot+ tall, most looked very much the same and they all smelled like incense, except for one. This plant stood out like a sore thumb. It had much skinnier leaves and had citric aromas more than incense. As I was tending them from week to week, I started to notice that I was smelling something that was catching my nose by it's turpentine/catpiss/kerosene smell. I smelled the growing tips of the plants one by one. When I came to the skinny leaf one, I found it. None of the others had this powerful and different aroma. At this point, I had no doubt that I found the one I wanted to grow. In fact, I was so sure that within a week of continual smell tests with the same results, I killed off the other plants.

A few weeks back, this plant finally started to flower. The only other plants that hadn't flowered yet were the Laos. Unfortunately, the Gypsy Thai cross is a male so I won't get to test a sample this year. It may turn out to be a good thing. I'm determined to see the quality of the children outcrosses from this plant.

Here is a picture before I chopped it to control the height:

The good news is that my early ripening outdoor line is starting to be worthy of a cross to a plant of the potential caliber of the Gypsy Thai cross. I have been growing this line for a very long time. The most recent outcrosses have been to Burmese (S.E. Asian), Trainwreck (partly Thai), and Bangi Haze. This line has become very clear, clean, and sensory stimulating. What I mean by that is that sounds become more clear, colors are brighter, and I feel like I'm on top of the world. The very latest infusion of genetics into this line was from SAGE. SAGE has Haze in it. Bangi Haze has some Super Silver Haze in it. I found a plant that seems to have combined to express some very Hazy expression and is very early.

If this Thai lineage works out well, these two lines will be brought together. In the meantime, Thai will likely be crossed to Durban Poison and a very early Baglung Nepali (Himalayan Hemp). For preservation purposes, I'll cross it to Laos, if I get two female Laos plants. Those Laos smell more like Thai Stick than most of those Gypsy Thai cross plants. They also have some menthol aromas that remind me of old school Hawaiian, which is a good thing... a very good thing.

Here is my long time line that is showing recent Haze expressions:

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[aussiegrower420]

wow looks good

 

[gatts]

Sublime. Love your work ThaiBliss.

 

[dillycid]

Is Gypsy Thai Stick still available in seed form?

 

[ThaiBliss]

I don't think those seeds are available anymore, but I haven't searched. I was gifted a cross. I'm growing a male that is now in my greenhouse. I have a Thai leaning Zamaldelica that I'm hoping to get this pollen on. Unfortunately, it has been a cold fall and the plants are petering out. So close, but not there yet:

I'm trying to get this pollen on a cutting of the plant that was able to produce these buds grown outside in the garden. It would make these Gypsy genetics a little earlier, and reinforce the Thai traits in the Zamaldelica:

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[TheDarkStorm]

Awesome plants m8

 

[ninox33]

Always good to find an old thread that needs a bump

 

[sativanese]

@dillycid Madmac has repros but they cost an arm and a leg