The Temple: Tropical Greenhouse

[Guest]

lol yeah...looks just like a LR..thats kinda cool though. If you had hundreds of seeds you could have a field of 6 inch little nugs .

is that guitar tabulature...? lol

how long did it take for that little plant to finish. from seed to harvest?

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

jay, that 'lil plant took 3 months and a half from seed to harvest.
and yes and no about the tablature, in the back in pencil there's tablature and in the printed page it is regular notation, was transcribing like a nerd peace.

 

[Closet Funk]

Nice greenhouse dude. That's an awesome build. I wish I had something like that. Down there I would stick to strictly sativas for sure.

 

[muddy waters]

paz, in my very limited experience, tiny plants from seed like that are a result of not just photoperiod, but scope of the rhizosphere. i grow all my plants in 12/12 from seed and when the roots have sufficient space, the plant will vegitate for a couple weeks to reach a good size, about 40-50 centimeters or so for an skunk-type plant. but when my plants don't have the root space, i get those micro bud sticks like in your picture, dwarfed by the cell phone. i'm curious if that micro-plant wasn't in a tiny pot for quite some time when it started.

i guarantee you though, with sufficient room for roots and a forced vegetative period with artificial lights, you would get incredibly good results from skunk type plants, even under that intense equatorial sun.

 

[Guest]

Very cool to have you here!

A grower from the mountians of south america he he!!
NOW i agree give them more soil and water them more....
AND if you do come acrossed any good strains from your area
please spread it north a bit like florida maybe? hint?

 

[KingRalph]

what beautiful natural construction! bravo paz, i like what ya've done with the place definitely the way to do the greenhouse SA tropical style, hope it works very well for you, can't see how it couldn't! very funny cali-o too hehe. can't wait ta see what ya do with it. keep up the fine work, peace n green thumbs

 

[Dr.Feelgood]

Beautiful greenhouse you have there. It definitely has some nice style.

As far as the plants go: I really think that you should make an electrical cabinet to veg your plants taller. Only when you're able to control when your plants go into flowering will you have control over their height and yield.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

muddy, dr.feelgood; thank you, it surely would work to have vegging cabinet with artifical lights, no question about it,
but it would only be useful for indica type varieties and as muddy says, skunk types, incidentally, these
are not my favorite strains, i like a good kick in your face sativa and luckily, those grow beautifully
just with the natural sun.
muddy, the tiny plant was started on a 2liters pot, after it lost its colytedons (sp?) it was transplanted directly into the ground, after it was in the ground for a couple of weeks it started to flower and it was finished in a couple more weeks; we just laughed a lot about it, we even suspected at first that the seeds that were sold to us were fake lol...

closet funk, thanks, you know sativas are the way to go!

lougrew, thank you, i can´t promise anything, but i bet the fl weather would be good to grow
some of these colombian sativas, specially south fl, you guys never see frost there i think?

kingralph, thanks for your kind words, i can´t wait to see what i do with it either lets hope
i don´t screw up

now i am fighting a mild pest problem in there; about a month ago i saw a neighbor of mine applying a
very nasty smelling pesticide to his flower and coffee garden, he's not so far away, about 150 feet or so,
i think it is possible some of his pests migrated to my garden because before i didn't have so many little
buggers, would u think this is possible?... perhaps it is the seasson as well, i still need to get in synch with it all.

thanks again.
peace!

 

[glock23]

Paz my outdoor White Rhino is flowering at 6"...it's a male. I'm a little further north than you, but damn, I don't want plants finishing at 8"...it sure is crazy being a tropical grower

 

[muddy waters]

paz, so this chiquita was really a runt, because 2 liters is plenty of space... when i grow in 1.5 liter bottles i get plants about 2 times its height at least.

as for the pests, can you identify what they are? it's very possible that his spraying caused them to evacuate and seek out something a little more hospitable, like a tropical greenhouse with beautiful young leafy sativas for instance. there are several tactics you can take to combat them but it depends first on what they are. are they eating parts of your plants? if so, which? what does the damage look like?

i hear you too on the sativas, i think they're beautiful plants, and very psychoactive if they're well selected and taken good care of. the commercial brick down south here is frequently skunk or hybrid and only sometimes pure old sativa, like it used to be, and to be honest with you i can't really tell much difference any more. skunk and indica are beautiful plants too, but the beauty is mostly in the format of the flowers, and they're always psychoactive as hell. i don't really buy the standard logic that sativas possess some magical cerebral high, probably because i just haven't smoked the right ones (ha), i think every plant has a different chemotype with a basic THC:CBD ratio (which also depends on when it was harvested), but what we experience is largely subjective and dependent on our own chemistry. that's just my theory.

but your new sativa house is going to be lovely, especially once you get some manure and compost and whatever else you need to really prepare the substrate. i really want to see the different size of the plants planted in pots and planted in fertile ground. i think it will be enormous.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

mr. muddy, surely you raise a lot of good points, got me thinking, thank you.
the little plant may have been a runt for sure, problem is that out of the two 10 seed packs of the same strain we received, all plants behaved like this, except for one which turned out to be a male, it grew about 3 feet and a half but in a very short time, it was very thin and nodes were very far from each other... i won't mention the name of the bank just because at the moment i dunno whether this is because of low quality genetics plus the latitude or if it is just the latitude.

i have white little flies and another kind of little insect whose poop leaves a white stain on some leafs (can be confused with powdery mildew but it ain't). also, i have some kind of spider because i have seen a few webs there, thin webs though, i tried looking close to see if they were spider mites but couldn't detect anything. i'm spraying 3% h2O2 to the plants, under the leaves etc... also going to make a few natural pesticides with garlic like people of old in my state used to do.

regarding sativas, i tend to agree with a theory similar to yours; that there's just one cannabis specie which is very genetically flexible. but because of the vast ammount of people used to the whole sativa/indica terminology to define the effects of the high, i talked about it that way

man, the size of plants in pots and in ground is great, a friend in Colombia planted the same colombian sativa (here to differentiate the phenotype at least) in the ground as the one i planted in pots, his plant is simply a monster... check the pics out: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=30830&page=1

peace!

 

[muddy waters]

what a strange phenomenon, see if it happens with any other seeds, that's the only way to know if it was genetic or environmental or both.

garlic tea is good. tobacco tea has been good to me though some say it can transmit the mosaic virus to cannabis. if you can make some aerated compost tea with some raw sugar or molasses for a spray, it will help combat fungus which comes hand in hand with whitefly infestation i've found. try to open your greenhouse to predator insects as well, like wasps and ladybugs. notice what other plants the whiteflies and other bugs seem to like most, and plant some more of that outside the greenhouse.

that thread of aldous', haha, i was looking at it the other day. monster indeed. i would love to see a plant like that pruned and trained along a screen horizontally, with its roots in the ground.

 

[glock23]

this old lady who's reallly into growing orchids and lilies told me to try dilute skim milk to prevent PM. she said it works wonders...my main problem is botrytis though. paz...necesito el rojo o el oro mang ;]

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

glock23, um... you know, there's some cultivation tips given by a sadu (Shivaist indian dudes who toke a lot ) that are found on hindu texts, it talks of sprinkling milk on the plant for protection pretty cool!

 

[glock23]

yeah...milk is used in many religious ceremonies by hindus. for example...a lot of indians will leave bowls of milk out for COBRAS...and milk is used to bathe shivlingas (statues that resemble shiva). bhang is also made with milk. Porque leche es muy importante para los indus, no queremos matar las vacas ;]

Paz mi compadre...where'd you find that text? Sounds like good reading!

 

[Haps]

It is the ph of the milk that does the trick for powdery mildew, high ph water seems to work as well. Blessings upon your greenhouse and the flowers you grow there.
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[cannakid]

bhang was made with water, made a milk like consistancy..
anyways though...

 

[glock23]

Very interesting haps, thanks for that info!

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

haps, thank you. blessings your way as well.

glock, check this link out http://www.geocities.com/sarabhanga/bhang.html
at the end of the bhang recipe there's the following cultivation notes:

"Select seeds, which have been kept in the mouth of a snake, are sown during an auspicious day during the waxing moon in July. The person who has performed the appropriate rites (Nyasa and Acamana) must face North or East and meditate. Water mixed with milk is sprinkled over the seeds. When they begin to sprout, they are sprinkled with water mixed with milk. When they sprout, water mixed with clarified butter is used. When the first leaves appear, the plants are sprinkled with salt water. During flowering, they are sprinkled with water mixed with alcohol and meat, then with water and honey, and finally with water and alcohol. Four rites are performed at the harvest (Stepana, Sevana, Tantubandhana, and Lavana). The third rite (Tantubandhana ~ tying the tree with fibers) should be performed on the 14th day of the waning moon in Phalguna (February-March) by a person who has bathed, dressed in clean clothing, applied perfume and sacrificed meat and alcohol to Bhairava. The plants are tied with red, yellow, black and white threads. Then the Aghora Mantra should be recited for a week. On the fifth day of the waxing moon, the cultivator should meditate on the Bhang and imagine her as a deity. Finally, the mature plant is harvested while again reciting the Aghora Mantra. ~ [Robert A. Nelson] "

my own version of bhang lassi, i simply mix a local calming herb (related to melissa off) with ganja and boil them in milk simple but effective.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

some pictures of what is going on inside the temple.

these following pics show various colombian bagseed seedlings and cali purple seedlings, plus a few clones taken from a plant already half into flower (gonna see if they re-vegetate) and three clones already growing well taken from a plant in veg but already sexed.









check this specie of bamboo i planted to help decoration and camouflage



and here i wanna see how these two plants grow planted so close to each other




peace.