The Search for Trip Weed

[ThaiBliss]

something about that just deosn't add up

No doubt people have different conceptions of what is trippy, or trippiest. It's impossible to go by what others say. One has to test for one's self.

Last saturday, I trimmed my Panama Haze

Wow. Great looking buds. Good job.

That’s because the A5 was accidentally pollinated (or intentionally) in a S Holland grow operation that held the cuts for decades by a Thai Male

Did Neville's Haze use that A5(T)? I go on and on about that freak pheno of Neville's Haze I grew. I think that was the best high I ever felt. It was so much like Thai Stick, but had an extra classic Mexican-like trippy happy weed kick to it. Almost like psilocybin. It made me swear on my life that Haze had Thai in it. Though I never felt the warm waves of euhporia wash over me in the Thai sticks I smoked. The freak pheno of Haze was better. It's what started my online search.

 

[FeelHaze]

Legalisation in Canada is a dream for most stoners but a nightmare for real coinnoisseurs. To sell a product it needs to be purple, to smell like candy and to have 25% + of THC. To be profitable, companies only grow 8 or 9 weekers strains. Result ... everything is an hybrid of Cookies. Beautiful buds with no soul. You hit a ceiling after 3 puffs and just get stoned and tired ... even a bit depressed.

@Nextgeneration73 I talked earlier in another thread about some NL#5 X Haze I buyed in the legal market and that stood out over most legal stuff but I have never seen KA5H grown commercially. They surely sell buds labeled as "sativa" but those hits like indicas with a bit less body heaviness.

 

[Nextgeneration73]

@Nextgeneration73

Legalisation in Canada is a dream for most stoners but a nightmare for real coinnoisseurs. To sell a product it needs to be purple, to smell like candy and to have 25% + of THC. To be profitable, companies only grow 8 or 9 weekers strains. Result ... everything is an hybrid of Cookies. Beautiful buds with no soul. You hit a ceiling after 3 puffs and just get stoned and tired ... even a bit depressed.

I talked earlier in another thread about some NL#5 X Haze I buyed in the legal market and that stood out over most legal stuff but I have never seen KA5H grown commercially. They surely sell buds labeled as "sativa" but those hits like indicas with a bit less body heaviness.

The old corruption in business and money, even when it comes to herb, by the way most ace seed vendors or as far as I remember all of them don't have the US or Canada as shipment options, how do you manage to buy from ace seeds then? I wanted to ask you before but it seemed a bit too personal. Now I'm just too curious and couldn't help but ask... Don't get me wrong I'm glad you get to buy from ace, everyone deserves some ace seeds no matter their countries status, how do you get them from there?

 

[nepalnt21]

i should also point out that when i would buy the ace sativas, it was between other strains, usually modern hybrids like onycd and stardawg... so my tolerance was prolly sky high and the golden tiger and purple malawi were still notably potent and psychedelic.

@Nextgeneration73

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the last few years here in dispensaries, it's impossible to find good sativa buds.

the best i find in terms of hybrids with a good head high is this really nice stuff i find SOMEtimes, jjnyc's guava ix (not a roman numeral '9', an abbreviation for 'in- cross', silly budtenders) which is basically just a stardawg guava clone i guess dusted with whatever stardawg male(s) jj picked... still a medicinal chem hybrid, but very heady and has a VERY high ceiling. i get paranoid if i smoke too much, and i miss it when i don't have it.

other than that it's the normal jack herer (rhymes with 'terror', silly budtenders) 'terpinolene bomb' (good call, notsodog)... and super lemon haze (what's it, like a quarter haze and well over half skunk?) so i really need to get off my ass, find some money and space, and learn to grow better shit

 

[Marcus67]

Legalisation in Canada is a dream for most stoners but a nightmare for real coinnoisseurs. To sell a product it needs to be purple, to smell like candy and to have 25% + of THC. To be profitable, companies only grow 8 or 9 weekers strains. Result ... everything is an hybrid of Cookies. Beautiful buds with no soul. You hit a ceiling after 3 puffs and just get stoned and tired ... even a bit depressed.

@Nextgeneration73 I talked earlier in another thread about some NL#5 X Haze I buyed in the legal market and that stood out over most legal stuff but I have never seen KA5H grown commercially. They surely sell buds labeled as "sativa" but those hits like indicas with a bit less body heaviness.

I feel you man. That's why I grow Jamaican Lambsbread here in Toronto. I have to fully seed them to get them to ripen in time but sun grown landrace sativas has the effects that I want. Pictures taken today, harvesting the ripe one and the others have a week to go.

 

[Nextgeneration73]

i should also point out that when i would buy the ace sativas, it was between other strains, usually modern hybrids like onycd and stardawg... so my tolerance was prolly sky high and the golden tiger and purple malawi were still notably potent and psychedelic.

@Nextgeneration73

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the last few years here in dispensaries, it's impossible to find good sativa buds.

the best i find in terms of hybrids with a good head high is this really nice stuff i find SOMEtimes, jjnyc's guava ix (not a roman numeral '9', an abbreviation for 'in- cross', silly budtenders) which is basically just a stardawg guava clone i guess dusted with whatever stardawg male(s) jj picked... still a medicinal chem hybrid, but very heady and has a VERY high ceiling. i get paranoid if i smoke too much, and i miss it when i don't have it.

other than that it's the normal jack herer (rhymes with 'terror', silly budtenders) 'terpinolene bomb' (good call, notsodog)... and super lemon haze (what's it, like a quarter haze and well over half skunk?) so i really need to get off my ass, find some money and space, and learn to grow better shit

When you say: find some money and space and learn to grow better shit, is this in the past tense or are you talking about not having the grows that you want right now? Meaning that you could do more?

 

[nepalnt21]

@Nextgeneration73

i have seeds, could probably grow some, but i need to do some significant learning + planning and actually have a set grow space without real threat of... life. i tend to screw up my plants.

 

[led05]

No doubt people have different conceptions of what is trippy, or trippiest. It's impossible to go by what others say. One has to test for one's self.

Wow. Great looking buds. Good job.

Did Neville's Haze use that A5(T)? I go on and on about that freak pheno of Neville's Haze I grew. I think that was the best high I ever felt. It was so much like Thai Stick, but had an extra classic Mexican-like trippy happy weed kick to it. Almost like psilocybin. It made me swear on my life that Haze had Thai in it. Though I never felt the warm waves of euhporia wash over me in the Thai sticks I smoked. The freak pheno of Haze was better. It's what started my online search.

I can’t speak of anything for certain (here say) & especially the timing of it all, I recon Nevil did a lot of work before it happened but also know he was in contact with said group to regain access to things he lost way back when so whom truly knows…

We do know inbreeding depression is a serious thing & clonal / parent degradation is too; I’m certain it happens all the time to revive vigor & health, it’s rarely told to us but clearly it can be seen in offspring…

It’s why I like to stuff a tiny bit of seed at least in everything I grow, you never truly know what you have till it’s gone

 

[iTarzan]

I feel you man. That's why I grow Jamaican Lambsbread here in Toronto. I have to fully seed them to get them to ripen in time but sun grown landrace sativas has the effects that I want.

I think it is way cool you are growing Jamaican Lambsbred way up north in Canada. Where did you get your lambsbread seed from? Did you find a good specimen and just grow it or do you just plant seeds every year? How many weeks do they go?

I grew a Jamaican Longtime Weed outdoors. I am at 42N in Pa. I light deprived it and it took 20 weeks or so. It came out looking pretty good. Here are some pics. I have more in the The Landrace Team thread.

 

[ThaiBliss]

I can’t speak of anything for certain

Thanks for the reply. I acquired the Neville's Haze seeds sometime around 1998 to 2000 from Marc Emery. Anyway, I'm convinced it had Thai in it due to the very electric effect and the extreme potency.

It’s why I like to stuff a tiny bit of seed at least in everything I grow, you never truly know what you have till it’s gone

Very wise indeed. Make plenty of seed and don't hoard. Let's not let the old school gems die out.

I grew a Jamaican Longtime Weed outdoors. I am at 42N in Pa.

Wow! Great plant, and good work. When I was a kid, my friend went to Jamaica in about '72 and brought back some hash and seeds. The plants looked similar. He grew about 30 plants in a tiny area near Chicago. All the plants were in a plot about a meter sqare. I don't know how they ever ripened. I think it might have had something to do with root restriction. It was by far the best homegrown I ever smoked before moving to California. A tiny pin joint would get several people good and high. Jamaica had great weed back then.

I'm learning, from good coaching and a little experience, that growing plants suited to near the equator is quite different. Fertilizer regiment, water restriction, ect. have more influence on ripening than I would have thought.

 

[ThaiBliss]

This is the wettest late wet season in three years here. It is becoming painfully obvious that only Thai Stick plants are reasonable to grow here. Damn!

I guess that's what I came here for. It better stop raining pretty soon, or I'm going to run out of room in my Monopoly hotel shaped coolhouse. I guess a 12 foot peak for plant starts is for amatuers.

I will not attempt another wet season plant. They are just rotting away. When they reveg, I'll take a cutting and keep it alive inside.

The yetti sized male is finally starting to gather up some flower clusters.

The obvious mate for the yetti above is the yeowie female below. I'm starting to think that this plant deserves to be in the ground. I may have to lasso the top and bend it over. I think I remember it was a few weeks ago when I thought the plants weren't going to get any size to them.

The plant in the right foreground is too early. It is thin leaved and sativa looking, but it's too polluted for this equatorial climate.

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Here is the rotting #2 plant from last year. If it stops raining, I might get an ounce of bud and a QTR of compost, if I'm lucky

The other two plants are well into flower and will not grow much bigger. To much work for little reward. Of course, I'll make a few seeds just in case either are profoundly good smoke. Otherwise, I need to breed out the hash plant in the Neville's Haze and Mullum leaning plants. Thanks to heaven for the Gypsy Thai Stick in these genes. Thanks Gypsy, Kangativa, and Bushy.

The sasquatches are still just starts threatening to bust out to be outside.