The Search for Trip Weed

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

My Green Haze x Panama looks like a female, and so does the Punto Rojo.


One of the Jamaicans looks like a male. WTF?! 6 seeds:

1 Dud
4 Males (1 hermie culled)
1 Unknown

Can't cry about it, just because it was too easy I have (lemonade):

SAGE x Jamaican
SAGE x Purple Haze Thai x Jamaican
Fire Fox Tail x Destroyer x Jamaican
Headband x Jamaican

Hopefully by fall I'll have:

Green Haze x Panama x Jamaican
Punto Rojo x Jamaican
AND
...
Jamaican x Jamaican

LOL!

I bet I get some females from those crosses. Some might be quite something.



ThaiBliss

 

[Koondense]

I'm currently soaking some Durban Poison cross I got from a friend from SA, he also gave me some Angolian Poison, but those are put in a safe place for better times.
I hope to get a female to be capable of maturing before december
Also soaking a TTSCO Cognition(Congo P.N. x Nepal H.) to see what comes out.

Regarding "trip weed" experiences, I was caught in temptation to get me some Golden Tiger seeds but then I remembered I have some thai buds and also some unripe malawi ones from last season and decided to mix them together in a joint.
The Thai has a bit more allaround heady, more cold than warm, higher blood pressure effect while Malawi is weak/mid strong but very racy effect with a heavier aftereffect.
The mix comes out pretty strong racy long lasting effect, the kind you don't want to have when drinking some beers or even stronger alcohol.
I remember I was struggling hard to stay conscious last week, after two beers, two x Jameson+cola and half joint of thai-malawi mix and I had to give up and pass out on the couch
Body was fine, the mind got overpowered and decided it's better to go on stand-by for a while.
It was a nice night overall

Cheers

 

[idiit]

^ cocktails! a subject we haven't discussed much. mixing genetics, growing them out, curing and then smoking is a slog. cocktails are fun and easy. I remember mixing nevil's skunk 50/50 with his nl 1 and along with just a few beers getting some incredible high effects. called that concoction elevator weed:

each time I would black out but not be consciously aware of it. I would get on an elevator in a commercial high rise and punch a button. I would exit the elevator and go mix with the ppl on that floor for a while, get back on the elevator and punch another button. enter that floor and interact.... no other drug than 1 cocktail joint and just a few beers. I was drinking over a six pack every day for years back then and got normal beer effects.

^ has several of these sessions. ppl think i'm nuts telling the story. I claim it's not crazy, it's elevator weed.

never had anything close to those high effects since then ( around 1990).

 

[MostlyMe]

Here is the smoke report for Purple Haze Thai I posted at another forum, so it's written for an audience not particularly familiar with pure sativas. As for the trip qualities: they are not there as far as I am concerned.

At six weeks cure, the aromas are still developing. I don't get much when opening a jar, but when ground up lots of complex aromas are released. The calyx-on-stalk has a grassy smell with a mango note to it, but the smoke reminded me of watermelon. The other two are spicy incense on a background of wet leaves on a forest floor. The semi-purple tastes bitter.

The highs are similar, but each pheno has unique characteristics as well. I am having a hard time describing the effects without making it sound like you could get that from a hybrid as well. Because you can't, I guarantee it! So when I tell you PHT sends you into a floaty, dreamy state of mind, don't think for a second it has anything in common with an indica. There's too much clarity and energy for that, and there is no heavy feeling. But as far as sativas go, this one isn't crazy energetic, except perhaps in the first 20 minutes when taking a lot. You'll still get off the couch without having to force yourself

The calyx-on-stalk has the heaviest, most relaxing high, clearing the mind of thoughts. The other two promote day dreaming, thoughts floating by happily like clouds, but to different degrees. I'd say the semi-purple is right in between the purple and the calyx-on-stalk.

I like this strain. It's just that I like the Double Jam and Double Thai I grew alongside it much more. Double Jam is more energetic and warm and I'm still sorting through the Double Thai, but so far the spacious, focussed effect I'm getting from it is spectacular. Still, I feel bad not throwing superlatives at PHT, because it does deserve them. It doesn't do anything special for me, but someone else might consider it holy grail. If you always wanted to grow a pure tropical sativa (even now that you are aware they are not necessarily like commercial haze, as you might expect), this is the strain to grow. You won't have to wait 20+ weeks!

 

[_tessarecting]

Dj short blueberry has made me black out when I was a kid. Smoked it then woke up walking home in the afternoon. Always been highly regarded because of this.

Blue dream, which has similar genetics, sometimes gives me good neon pastel mindshine.

Also can't go wrong with GDP. High dose of this and I feel like buddha wizard king.

And of course eating any strain at the right dose gets trippy.

 

[ThaiBliss]

MostlyMe,

Spot on smoke report. I agree with you 100%. I have not smoked pure Purple Haze Thai, but I have contrasted SAGE x Purple Haze Thai with pure SAGE, probably in this thread some time ago. I think the Purple Haze Thai is something that the couch-lock lovers and the Sativa lovers could both love, but it lacks the pure and powerful cerebral effect of what I have in mind as trip weed. B.T.W., it is in no way a couch-lock strain. It is stony, and energetic and cerebral at the same time. In my opinion, the pure SAGE, at least the cut that I have, and some of the Bangi Haze individuals are closer to what my search is all about. I can't wait to try Double Thai, Double Jam, or pure Jamaican.

You kill me MostlyMe. Sometimes you have been so contrary to the idea of trip weed, and yet judging by your smoke reports and selection of strains, you seem to "get it". Your Purple Haze Thai smoke report is probably better than the one I wrote about the cross of it I made. Even though it is not exactly what I'm looking for, I kept SAGE x Purple Haze Thai because it is so good.

I am a week or two from harvesting another batch of it. The first batch cured to a nice purple color. This time it is ripening to a deep purple color. Perhaps due to cooler conditions, but no doubt also due to a more extended ripening period. I'll try to post some pictures soon.

Thanks for the great smoke report. It is making me ache to smoke some of that again. Wonderful stuff.


ThaiBliss

 

[ThaiBliss]

Dj short blueberry has made me black out when I was a kid. Smoked it then woke up walking home in the afternoon. Always been highly regarded because of this.

LMFAO, because I would think the same way.

Blue dream, which has similar genetics, sometimes gives me good neon pastel mindshine.

Also can't go wrong with GDP. High dose of this and I feel like buddha wizard king.

And of course eating any strain at the right dose gets trippy.

Nice post. I tried an Indica leaning Blueberry that I did not think much of. Recently I smoked Johnny Blaze, related to Blueberry, and I got a very nice rush of euphoria from it.

I currently acquired a Blueberry x Girl Scout Cookie. It looks very Sativa leaning, and I am dying to grow it.

T.B.

 

[MostlyMe]

MostlyMe,

Spot on smoke report. I agree with you 100%. I have not smoked pure Purple Haze Thai, but I have contrasted SAGE x Purple Haze Thai with pure SAGE, probably in this thread some time ago. I think the Purple Haze Thai is something that the couch-lock lovers and the Sativa lovers could both love, but it lacks the pure and powerful cerebral effect of what I have in mind as trip weed. B.T.W., it is in no way a couch-lock strain. It is stony, and energetic and cerebral at the same time. In my opinion, the pure SAGE, at least the cut that I have, and some of the Bangi Haze individuals are closer to what my search is all about. I can't wait to try Double Thai, Double Jam, or pure Jamaican.

That's an excellent point you make there, about PHT being able to perhaps please the couch-lock crowd as well with the sativa folks. Wish I had thought of that Because most commercial sativa strains are bred towards another kind of sativa high entirely, most couch-lock fans would never consider something like PHT. That's a shame really, it could really open some eyes. The traditional lines drawn between indica and sativa aren't as sharp as most people think. I grew a Panama from CBG once, which was even heavier and denser, bordering narcotic... I called it my perfect indica.

You kill me MostlyMe. Sometimes you have been so contrary to the idea of trip weed, and yet judging by your smoke reports and selection of strains, you seem to "get it". Your Purple Haze Thai smoke report is probably better than the one I wrote about the cross of it I made. Even though it is not exactly what I'm looking for, I kept SAGE x Purple Haze Thai because it is so good.

It took me a long time to understand your concept of trip weed. I got hung up on hallucinations, but you patiently kept trying to educate me about how trip weed can be mind-altering without. Finally when I got to smoke Bangi Haze and then Double Jam, everything fell into place. It is me who should be thanking you!

Thanks for the great smoke report. It is making me ache to smoke some of that again. Wonderful stuff.

You're most welcome! I suggest you order a pack of Double Thai immediately if you hadn't already, because it's right up our ally. I'll get back to that soon

P.S. I am growing at the moment, just not anything I expect to be trippy. I basically took some seeds that I had in my fridge for a couple of years already and see what would germinate. I ended up with Sugar Punch, Chocolate Rain (2x), Extrema, Madshack and G Force. Should give a broad range of effects.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Unfortunately, I believe that Double Thai was a limited offer that is no longer available.

I'll be working on you in another area. Make a touch of seeds with every grow, if possible, and save them in the refrigerator. Save cuttings in case you find a spectacular individual. It may be a once in a lifetime find, and losing it will haunt you for the rest of your days.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

I wanted to show off a Bangi Haze about to be put in the ground. It has very narrow leaves, and reminds slightly of Thai. Other African strains look a touch like Thai to me also. The bells in my head start ringing when anything vaguely reminds me of Thai. I think it is a disease.

The next thing I want to post is the current SAGE crop. I believe it is ripe. The first two pics show the resin and the purpling it has been starting to get:

The next SAGE picture is showing the size of one of the top buds, and how there are very few white pistils:

The next post will show the SAGE x Purple Haze Thai. It has some nicely ripe lower buds, but the tops all have a good 10% or more white pistils. It is funny because the SAGE has much more clear resins compared to the SAGE x Purple Haze Thai, but the SAGE x PHT has more white pistils. I never know when exactly to harvest. The both look ripe, but in their own ways.




T.B.

 

[ThaiBliss]

SAGE x Purple Haze Thai lower buds looking very ripe:

Here are a couple of buds closer to the top of the plant that despite the resins going from clear shiny to frosty, they look like they could go a few more weeks due to the numbers of white pistils:

I may harvest the lower buds, then let the tops go another week. The Punto Rojo, Jamaicans, and Green Haze x Panama are urging me to start the next cycle.

Happy Searching,

ThaiBliss

 

[#1cheesebuds]

heres my sativa. how is she looking.

 

[Riddleme]

Beautiful buds TB !!!!

 

[padrone]

Lovely pics thaibliss.

 

[boobs]

Gascanastan just put up the Blue Orca which is a '71 Afghani x '76 Thai Stick from Clackamas Coot crossed to a repopulation from the 1991 NL#5 x Neville’s Haze for sale at swami seed website

i smoked his cut from that stock a few months ago and ended up getting light headed and fainting and finding myself falling to the ground... then went soaring up up up into a psychadelic rainbow space trip pinball machine land as if i was a flying saucer surveying alien landscapes... the lsd effect that i've heard people describe of the original haze to have is definitely there from what i can tell, although i never smoked the original haze...but there's also a smooth indica that sets in and relaxes you and sort of... keeps you from freaking out, or dying due to astonishment as terrence mckenna might've put it. it was unique from other things i've smoked, my buddy that smoked some too couldn't even speak, he kept trying to say things and just ...couldn't, like it was his first time smoking or something...

Later that night we experimented with trying to find the ceiling of the thing and there was a point where I felt trapped in my head and that everything was so silent, the carpet was geometric and throbbing, a little part of me thought it was funny but I can see how some people may be troubled by the experience lol...

 

[_tessarecting]

Was that the only thing you smoked??

 

[ThaiBliss]

... then went soaring up up up into a psychadelic rainbow space trip pinball machine land as if i was a flying saucer surveying alien landscapes... the lsd effect that i've heard people describe of the original haze to have is definitely there...

... keeps you from freaking out, or dying due to astonishment as terrence mckenna might've put it. ...my buddy that smoked some too couldn't even speak, he kept trying to say things and just ...couldn't, like it was his first time smoking or something...

Another testimonial of what some rare Sativas can do. Most people don't even have a clue that weed can be this way. I laugh my ass off when people say weed is stronger today than "your parent's weed". It's different all right, as in more potently sleep inducing, not more mind expandingly potent.

I love the effect of feeling that you are observing something profound, or observing an earth that you are just now visiting for the first time, that is beaming with sentient life. Can be scary or unsettling... but also makes one appreciate life, all life.

Thanks for the post Boobs.

Nice pics Cheesebuds. What strain is it, and what are the effects?

ThaiBliss

 

[SapoVerde]

It really is a shame that the ACE Double Thai isn't available anymore. I really liked that hybrid, I planned to get some more. Wouldn't really classify as trip weed imho, not even as particulary potent. But no ceiling and very pleasant.
Luckily I pollinated my Double Thais with some multi-purpose Nepalese Charas Plant (not from RSC) Pollen, I'll try to select some nice Double Thai dominant plants from those seeds, and want to cross them asap to a nice purple lowland ganja cultivar from Nepal, that flowers just as long as the Double Thai.

Double Thai x Double Nepalese

 

[MostlyMe]

It really is a shame that the ACE Double Thai isn't available anymore. I really liked that hybrid, I planned to get some more. Wouldn't really classify as trip weed imho, not even as particulary potent. But no ceiling and very pleasant.
Luckily I pollinated my Double Thais with some multi-purpose Nepalese Charas Plant (not from RSC) Pollen, I'll try to select some nice Double Thai dominant plants from those seeds, and want to cross them asap to a nice purple lowland ganja cultivar from Nepal, that flowers just as long as the Double Thai.

Double Thai x Double Nepalese

With a simple search I found a couple of places that still have Double Thai in stock. I got mine directly from Ace, even though they did not have it listed any more at the time. I also think the sales rep mentioned they would in fact make another batch at some point.

I don't agree with you about the potency and trip potential. My DT take my fairly tolerant ass to an uncomfortable place with moderately high doses, but mellow out later. Same sort of evolution as Double Jam, though with different effects.

 

[MostlyMe]

By the way, I have to expand on my original PHT smoke report, because I discovered last night that I have another pheno that I harvested at the same time as the Double Thai (17 weeks 11/13). I actually mislabelled the jar as DT, but when smoking I immediately knew it had to be haze. And a fine one at that! Classic haze aroma and a considerably more electric buzz, really top notch IMO. I suspect this one leans more towards the green OT Haze selection, which takes longer than the purple and is often described as more energetic.