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Hi Folks,
I wanted to tell a story about the strong aroma from my indoor plants, Oaxacan and GN x NHz x MM. I thought there was some similarity in aroma between these strains. The Oaxacan is spicy with a bit of cat piss. The GN x ... is lime with some cat piss kick. Then the power at my house went out for about 8 hours, leaving me without ventilation. My house stunk up very strongly of extremely rude catpiss. No one around here would think of Cannabis if they smelled it. They would think I was an old lady with way too many cats. They might call the animal control department. It surprised me how strong it is. It think it actually kept me from falling asleep easily.
I'm tempted to test at this early stage, but if it is good, it might cause me to harvest too early. I want to see what it is like in its full glory. When I grew that Oaxacan looking Neville's Haze, I let it get really ripe, until no new pistils were coming out. The potency blew up in the last two weeks.
I hope the light cycle interruption did not screw them up and cause them to go hermie.
ThaiBliss
I wanted to tell a story about the strong aroma from my indoor plants, Oaxacan and GN x NHz x MM. I thought there was some similarity in aroma between these strains. The Oaxacan is spicy with a bit of cat piss. The GN x ... is lime with some cat piss kick. Then the power at my house went out for about 8 hours, leaving me without ventilation. My house stunk up very strongly of extremely rude catpiss. No one around here would think of Cannabis if they smelled it. They would think I was an old lady with way too many cats. They might call the animal control department. It surprised me how strong it is. It think it actually kept me from falling asleep easily.
I'm tempted to test at this early stage, but if it is good, it might cause me to harvest too early. I want to see what it is like in its full glory. When I grew that Oaxacan looking Neville's Haze, I let it get really ripe, until no new pistils were coming out. The potency blew up in the last two weeks.
I hope the light cycle interruption did not screw them up and cause them to go hermie.
ThaiBliss
Hey Thai! That Thai x Hz/MM shouldn't be bothered too much by a bit of darkness, did I tell you how I once thrust a branch of the mother unalloyed into some soil and when I came back a week later it had taken root? Very hard to kill and it was stressed to hell and never produced testes.
Listen buddy, these fucken Bangis you've got are fucken banging! I've only seen a couple of posters with bigger plants in the Norcal thread thus far...
Do you think they'll finish in time?
Listen buddy, these fucken Bangis you've got are fucken banging! I've only seen a couple of posters with bigger plants in the Norcal thread thus far...
Do you think they'll finish in time?
Hi Bushy,
Yes, and you had some grow from seed spread by macaws, I believe. Love those stories of the natural herb. That's good news. I sure am putting it to the test also.
Thanks, but you were right, I should have staked them. A thunderstorm with violent winds and a downpour just blew through, and one of the plants toppled over to about 45 degrees. You can see it was already leaning, the one in the foreground. I tied it back up. Many bent over branches but none broken... yet. It is supposed to be stormy until late tomorrow. I'm going to spend a few hours this weekend tying branches to the main stem. Crazy year. I hope the storms put out more fires than it is starting. We're burning up around these parts.
I have reason to believe it is possible for 3 of them. The one that is now a heavy leaner, is leaning towards being too late unless it is a very good fall.
Thanks for the compliment and the interest.
ThaiBliss
Yes, and you had some grow from seed spread by macaws, I believe. Love those stories of the natural herb. That's good news. I sure am putting it to the test also.
Thanks, but you were right, I should have staked them. A thunderstorm with violent winds and a downpour just blew through, and one of the plants toppled over to about 45 degrees. You can see it was already leaning, the one in the foreground. I tied it back up. Many bent over branches but none broken... yet. It is supposed to be stormy until late tomorrow. I'm going to spend a few hours this weekend tying branches to the main stem. Crazy year. I hope the storms put out more fires than it is starting. We're burning up around these parts.
I have reason to believe it is possible for 3 of them. The one that is now a heavy leaner, is leaning towards being too late unless it is a very good fall.
Thanks for the compliment and the interest.
ThaiBliss
C
charlie garcia
Bangi Haze was bred in northern Spain in/od, a windy and humid area which should make them show nice resistance to elements. Wish not bugs around beating buds when in flower cause they all look excellent ThaiBliss
Nice thread
best
kaiki
Nice thread
best
kaiki
^^ Dj Short – Strains Of Yesteryear
trying to recreate an lsd type high effect off of one or two bowls might need to be reconsidered. something like the black african magic reports says that it is possible. interesting to note the dosage dj and friends took off the jft.
i'm 60 yrs. old. back in the '70's and 80's ppl used to drive that bowl like a "fast and furious" scene. nowadays i see ppl pulling out itsy bitsy spoons, packing it, taking a hit and then passing it to the next person.
^^ prize pheno of rc colas's blue moonshine.
Thanks for dropping by Charlie, much appreciated. You must have noticed my post in Orfeas' thread about the katydids getting huge, eating the stems, and killing a top bud.
That big storm the other day must have had 30 to 40 miles per hour wind gusts while it was pouring cats and dogs, and lightning strikes landing close by. The big pine and fir trees where blowing around like grasses. Two of the plants, one Bangi Haze and one Nep Jam, have survived all summer without dropping a single branch. Only one took some minor damage from that storm. Tough!
I was worried that these strains would not get done as early as advertised, but so far, most are looking to be on track.
Idiit - I remember we used to take pride in how big of a hit we could take. To impress our friends, we would roll a medium sized joint, act like we were going to light it and pass it around, then break it up, put it in a bong, and smoke it in one hit. One of my friends passed out doing this stunt, fell and hit his head on the radiator, and screwed up his neck. He is O.K., if you think having neck pain for the rest of his life is O.K.. On the other hand, we used to smoke in our parents houses by taking hits small enough so there was no chance of coughing, holding it a long time, blowing it our forcefully through a cracked window, to minimize the aroma and not get caught.
Memories...
ThaiBliss
Pepe le skunk
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The wifi/tahoe pheno I found get's you forgetting about time after 2 bong hits. Had that effect on multiple people. I like the small few hits but especially the green hit more then packing a big bowl and smoking chared weed. Sometimes I'll load just singles so they are all green hits. Helps when trying to describe flavors and aroma's for me. Another reason is my lungs cannot handle the smoke after years of smoking tobacco. Huge hits make me lose my breath, gage and feel like I'm gonna upchuck until I catch my breath. Me thinks power smoking is a waste of good weed.
Done that many times with the small hits and holding them. Remember smoking skunk bud on the bus to school and having the bus driver get pissed from the smell after taking too big a hit and coughing it under the seats. lol Happened almost everyday and it was the roadkill to boot. Found using a dryer sheet and an empty paper towel roll to blow through helped hide the smell. All the popular kids are doing it now. Great thread and thanks for keeping the sativa in the mix.
BlackWeedMan
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Black Mendo RARE Cut
Black Mendo RARE Cut
Hey Thai her she is sorry for the delay just had to ask the breeder what he thought.
Smell = Chemical Leather Kush
Black Mendo RARE Cut
Hey Thai her she is sorry for the delay just had to ask the breeder what he thought.
Smell = Chemical Leather Kush
Hi Pepe and BlackWeedMan,
Thanks for posting. Cool black strain. Remind me again, how does it smoke?
It's time for an indoor update. The Oaxacan is ripening and fox-tailing madly. Smells awesomely rich and spicy even overwhelming the cat piss aromas, from close up anyway. It is looking so typically Mexican, and the bigger buds are huge and dense inside all the octo-fox-tailing on the outside. Some of the bigger fox-tails have fox-tails:
The smaller lower inside buds are just all stretched out fox-tails:
One of those stretched out single mini fox-tails, like the lower right side of the picture above, remind me what my Neville's freak pheno had for entire buds. That freak was definitely a Mexican and Thai influenced phenotype.
Here is a picture of the entire cabinet, with Thai on the left, and Oaxacan on the right, but all bent over and mixed up:
Thai update coming next.
ThaiBliss
Thanks for posting. Cool black strain. Remind me again, how does it smoke?
It's time for an indoor update. The Oaxacan is ripening and fox-tailing madly. Smells awesomely rich and spicy even overwhelming the cat piss aromas, from close up anyway. It is looking so typically Mexican, and the bigger buds are huge and dense inside all the octo-fox-tailing on the outside. Some of the bigger fox-tails have fox-tails:
The smaller lower inside buds are just all stretched out fox-tails:
One of those stretched out single mini fox-tails, like the lower right side of the picture above, remind me what my Neville's freak pheno had for entire buds. That freak was definitely a Mexican and Thai influenced phenotype.
Here is a picture of the entire cabinet, with Thai on the left, and Oaxacan on the right, but all bent over and mixed up:
Thai update coming next.
ThaiBliss
She's a beauty TB, and looks oh so Qaxacan
Here's the #11 ZamalThai Haze, the last one I pulled was perfectly done under 1k and only took 16 weeks.
To me it looks like Bushweeds Thai crosses in bud and plant structure but overall only 3-4' tall and loaded with nice fat buds. Every time I run a plant it just gets better.
To me it looks like Bushweeds Thai crosses in bud and plant structure but overall only 3-4' tall and loaded with nice fat buds. Every time I run a plant it just gets better.
As good as the Oaxacan smells, I spend most of my time inhaling deeply the aroma from the Thai buds. It smells of lime and cat piss, but has a metallic essence to it. It does something to my teeth and tongue, like a bad aftertaste. It vaguely reminds me of accidentally biting on a piece of tin foil in my food, and also the feeling of smoking Thai Stick which made my teeth buzz, like they were about to go numb or something. As unpleasant as this sounds, it brings back wonderful memories. That Neville's Haze freak had that metallic aroma.
I successfully grew a pure Thai strain, a very long time ago, and this heavily Thai dominant plant I'm growing now looks a lot like it, but the buds are much bigger. Here is a picture of the main bud:
Some close ups:
These buds look like they are ripening up also. I'm concerned that they are ripening too quickly, due to my habit of reducing nitrogen in my mineral/organic hydro mixture. I checked my postings, and they have been flowering for about 9 - 10 weeks now. I would expect this Thai plant should go something like 16 - 22 weeks. By the way it is looking now, I doubt it will go that long. It is difficult when I have two different strains going at the same time. While I have no history to go on, I feel like the Mexican is dialed in just about right. It did not start yellowing up as early or as much as the Thai.
I had a discussion with another ICMAG poster, another old timer like myself who I respect very much, about dialing in on these trickier to grow long flowering Sativas. He talked about giving the plant just enough fertilizer to keep the buds throwing fresh pistils out for an extended period of time, while at the same time being careful not to over fertilize. Even though I have very good experiences with going to the extreme of reducing nitrogen fertilizer, the rapid ripening of this Thai dominant plant is concerning me, so I bumped up the nitrogen just a smidge to try and balance somewhere in the middle of what these two strains need. B.T.W., thank you my friend, you know who you are, for giving me advice in the most subtle and gentle way, as if you were not giving advice at all.
I have a 55 gallon reservoir that I put the fertilizer in. At this stage of development, I add about 4 or 5 tablespoons total of a mixture of various fertilizers. I use very little of a lot of different things:
Age Old Fish and Seaweed 3-3-2
Bird Guano 0-8-1
Eco Bloom 3-35-10
Eco Grow 10-5-15 (I lost the label on this, so I'm guessing/remembering)
Kelp Meal 0.6-0.5-2.5
Humic Acid
More Bloom Fish Meal 0-10-10
Pure Blend Pro 2-3-5
Soybean Meal 7-2-1
Epsom Salt (magnesium/calcium)
I guess I throw in very tiny amounts of a ton of different crap. I make compost tea for my outdoor plants with the Humic Acid, Soybean Meal, Age Old Fish and Kelp, molasses, and compost. This has an amazing effect on the outdoor plants. I don't do this indoors because I'm afraid of introducing pests. Come to think of it, I could add a bit of molasses.
Anyway, that is my story, and I'm sticking to it.
ThaiBliss
I successfully grew a pure Thai strain, a very long time ago, and this heavily Thai dominant plant I'm growing now looks a lot like it, but the buds are much bigger. Here is a picture of the main bud:
Some close ups:
These buds look like they are ripening up also. I'm concerned that they are ripening too quickly, due to my habit of reducing nitrogen in my mineral/organic hydro mixture. I checked my postings, and they have been flowering for about 9 - 10 weeks now. I would expect this Thai plant should go something like 16 - 22 weeks. By the way it is looking now, I doubt it will go that long. It is difficult when I have two different strains going at the same time. While I have no history to go on, I feel like the Mexican is dialed in just about right. It did not start yellowing up as early or as much as the Thai.
I had a discussion with another ICMAG poster, another old timer like myself who I respect very much, about dialing in on these trickier to grow long flowering Sativas. He talked about giving the plant just enough fertilizer to keep the buds throwing fresh pistils out for an extended period of time, while at the same time being careful not to over fertilize. Even though I have very good experiences with going to the extreme of reducing nitrogen fertilizer, the rapid ripening of this Thai dominant plant is concerning me, so I bumped up the nitrogen just a smidge to try and balance somewhere in the middle of what these two strains need. B.T.W., thank you my friend, you know who you are, for giving me advice in the most subtle and gentle way, as if you were not giving advice at all.
I have a 55 gallon reservoir that I put the fertilizer in. At this stage of development, I add about 4 or 5 tablespoons total of a mixture of various fertilizers. I use very little of a lot of different things:
Age Old Fish and Seaweed 3-3-2
Bird Guano 0-8-1
Eco Bloom 3-35-10
Eco Grow 10-5-15 (I lost the label on this, so I'm guessing/remembering)
Kelp Meal 0.6-0.5-2.5
Humic Acid
More Bloom Fish Meal 0-10-10
Pure Blend Pro 2-3-5
Soybean Meal 7-2-1
Epsom Salt (magnesium/calcium)
I guess I throw in very tiny amounts of a ton of different crap. I make compost tea for my outdoor plants with the Humic Acid, Soybean Meal, Age Old Fish and Kelp, molasses, and compost. This has an amazing effect on the outdoor plants. I don't do this indoors because I'm afraid of introducing pests. Come to think of it, I could add a bit of molasses.
Anyway, that is my story, and I'm sticking to it.
ThaiBliss
Hi Thai, man they look awesome, I know what you mean by that tendril of a foxtail coming off the Copalita, it looks so much like what you see from some of DJs selections that contain Oaxacan. Sheez the old MM is showing thru on the Thai cross, in terms of massive colas and little resin. I'm no expert but from what I've read you want to cut them when the last white pistil has died. Glad you're getting a great smell off her, that was an outstanding trait from my grow earlier this year. So far two of the three have been extremely cerebral and trippy, but the one I like has a bit of body to it and a lot of euphoria. How are the big Nepalis after the storm bro?
B
bringyalungs
insane.... pure madness... what kind of vibes of the smoke?
B
bringyalungs
@blackweedman..,. it looks like indica too.... nevertheless beautiful plant... please to keep it around....
Hi Bushy,
I debate the first part, but I plan on doing what you suggest in the second. I will wait for every single pistil to die. I'm going to do that with the Oaxacan also. Thanks for the help.
I remember you talking about a strain where the flowers turned brownish when it was ripe. Was that the Gypsy Thai?
I certainly would not be disappointed with a phenotype that has a lot of euphoria, but I'm hoping for extremely cerebral and trippy, of course. I have the Oaxacan for the euphoria. I'll grow another G. Thai x ... after the Jamaican.
Only one plant took a trashing, but not really that bad. I tied it up, and it will survive another day, but not so sure it will survive another storm like that. It is the latest flowering one. It is so late, that the thought occurred to me to cut it down. I cut a male that seems too late for outdoor around here. Out of 7 total, four females and three males, two were late enough for me to be concerned. I now have 1 Nepal Jam male, and one Bangi Haze male. I don't have the heart to cut the late female, but I don't think I'll pollinate it. The other 3 females are flowering heavily now.
ThaiBliss
I debate the first part, but I plan on doing what you suggest in the second. I will wait for every single pistil to die. I'm going to do that with the Oaxacan also. Thanks for the help.
I remember you talking about a strain where the flowers turned brownish when it was ripe. Was that the Gypsy Thai?
I certainly would not be disappointed with a phenotype that has a lot of euphoria, but I'm hoping for extremely cerebral and trippy, of course. I have the Oaxacan for the euphoria. I'll grow another G. Thai x ... after the Jamaican.
Only one plant took a trashing, but not really that bad. I tied it up, and it will survive another day, but not so sure it will survive another storm like that. It is the latest flowering one. It is so late, that the thought occurred to me to cut it down. I cut a male that seems too late for outdoor around here. Out of 7 total, four females and three males, two were late enough for me to be concerned. I now have 1 Nepal Jam male, and one Bangi Haze male. I don't have the heart to cut the late female, but I don't think I'll pollinate it. The other 3 females are flowering heavily now.
ThaiBliss
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