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The Search for Trip Weed
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I've been tokin for 40+ years n never had weed where I cant function or had effects u mention ... what am I doing wrong???
Potassium during ripening. Really from mid-flowering onwards. Most of the effects of cannabis show up when the flowers and trichomes mature.
Are you talking about excess K or any amount at all? It's an essential element, I'm wondering how you'd get around that.
I'm talking about a low 0.2-0.4 EC and high K in the NPK ratio.
For instance AN's Hammerhead is 0-4-10. For organics: woodash, molasses, worm tea (depending what's in the worm castings).
K is the ripening nutrient.
I understand what you're saying now.
FWIW, I've run tests with elevated levels of K and 'ripening' was unaffected. The smoke was also indistinguishable in a side-by-side. Elevated levels of K had some positive benefits but in regards to ripening, potassium boosters are unnecessary when running balanced formulas.
Yes, I can see that in one of the seedlings. I'll check with the smell tomorrow and let you know.
I did smell the Miss Universe, and I was surprised at how strongly lemon/perfume the big one was. Here is a picture of it:
Here is one of the prettier Wicked Weed starts:
ThaiBliss
I did the rub the stem and smell my fingers test. They are all similar and familiar with the one I grew indoors. They are fruity and funky perfume-like. Very similar to VISC Burmese. I detect a minor earthy/weedy/spicy note, which might be what you are talking about. To me, it combines with the stronger fruity/lemon to remind me of lemon grass, but if I remember that you notice a basil aroma, I can imagine that. I'm really looking forward to see how these develop. I'll probably narrow it down to one that I bring to full maturity, since I have one less patient and my garden will be smaller than last year.
Nothing smells as pungent as the Miss Universe, not even my Wicked Weed (Dank Dank). I have a cutting of Kali Mist, and the only thing similar is the citric. Kali Mist is sharper and slightly sour, while Miss Universe is funky perfume lemon, with emphasis on lemon. It is very sweet.
I love this time of year!
ThaiBliss
When did you raise the K? Also, what nutrients did you use?
I was running a complete 9-3-6 formula and ran elevated levels of K during the entire flowering cycle to see if there was a reason that a lot of nutrient ratios favor K these days. I supplemented with raw, water soluble potassium sulfate that roughly changed the NPK ratio to 3-1-5. FWIW, I liked the results.
That formula has a lot of nitrogen in it, and relatively little phosphorus.
I am thinking more like 5-5-10. Or a 5-5-5 base nutrient or medium, with an extra K added at the right time. Higher K from mid-flowering (lots of roothairs breaking out on un-filled out buds) onwards.
If you check bud pictures, you will see that nearly all plants show signs of potassium deficiency - mid-leaves on the plant or the bud, tips go chlorotic, and then the edges of the leaf follow.
There isn't a photo of mature buds that don't have leaftips affected. The plant trying to communicate something to us.
http://www.growweedeasy.com/ready-for-harvest-pictures
That formula has a lot of nitrogen in it, and relatively little phosphorus.
I am thinking more like 5-5-10. Or a 5-5-5 base nutrient or medium, with an extra K added at the right time. Higher K from mid-flowering (lots of roothairs breaking out on un-filled out buds) onwards.
If you check bud pictures, you will see that nearly all plants show signs of potassium deficiency - mid-leaves on the plant or the bud, tips go chlorotic, and then the edges of the leaf follow.
There isn't a photo of mature buds that don't have leaftips affected. The plant trying to communicate something to us.
http://www.growweedeasy.com/ready-for-harvest-pictures
Roothairs breaking out on un-filled out buds? Potassium deficiency during flower? Leaf tips indicate ripeness? PM me if you'd like to chat. I don't want to take up space in this thread.
jackspratt61
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There is a full on discussion concerning Ca/k in advanced botany...Slownickel thread. Excellent info!
I watched a video of traditional Moroccan hash growers. The only fertilizer they added was phosphorus. The plants looked bad, by "modern" grower standards, but it's not about looks, is it? Sadly, I think it is about looks. Oh well. I don't think I have the communication skills to convince anyone to go against prevailing wisdom. I've been accused of torturing my plants for lack of nitrogen.
Homebrewer and I have gone around and around about nitrogen, with me trying to promote low nitrogen. He was not the one accusing me of plant torture. He was more respectful about it. I don't know about potassium, except that too much will make the stems swell and leaves fall off even though they look healthy. I'd be conservative with it, but it doesn't look like you are getting too extreme with it.
I always thought that burnt looking leaf tips was too much fertilizer. They start out looking chlorotic, but then turn light golden brownish.
ThaiBliss
Homebrewer and I have gone around and around about nitrogen, with me trying to promote low nitrogen. He was not the one accusing me of plant torture. He was more respectful about it. I don't know about potassium, except that too much will make the stems swell and leaves fall off even though they look healthy. I'd be conservative with it, but it doesn't look like you are getting too extreme with it.
I always thought that burnt looking leaf tips was too much fertilizer. They start out looking chlorotic, but then turn light golden brownish.
ThaiBliss
~star~crash~
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Hey all
thaibliss
i got cat piss reek coming from my C99's (2016 grimm stock)
what's interesting is that the odour only made itself know after harvest
what do you guy's know about the cat piss smell in relation to the search for trip-weed?
thaiblissi got cat piss reek coming from my C99's (2016 grimm stock)
what's interesting is that the odour only made itself know after harvest
what do you guy's know about the cat piss smell in relation to the search for trip-weed?
Crash, I once had some HazeSkunk of Sams that had the Catpiss smell in flower, and in finished buds. It becomes much more 'enjoyable' of a flavor/taste after some curing, but it was strong though, very strong.
I hope your C99 rocks your world!
I hope your C99 rocks your world!
You might not be curing properly if that's the case.
Hey all
i got cat piss reek coming from my C99's (2016 grimm stock)
what's interesting is that the odour only made itself know after harvest
what do you guy's know about the cat piss smell in relation to the search for trip-weed?
I've associated the cat piss aroma with Thai, a prime example of what I call trip weed. To my nose, cat piss is a variant of citric aromas. Sour citric. There are just some aromas that excite me. I think it is partly from associations of previous ganja smoking experiences. It triggers a memory that reminds me of a powerful cerebral/trippy experience. Citric, piney, pepper, metallic, cat piss thrills me the most. Many argue that it may be more than associations with previous experiences, but that the terpenes themselves actually modify the effects of the cannabinoids.
