The Search for Trip Weed

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

I was planning on harvesting one or both of the Nanan-Bouclou and Zamaldelica (Zamal dominate) x Malawi Gold today. When I took a close look, and inspected with my jeweler's loop, I found just too many white pistils, and amber resin heads were too hard to find to make me feel comfortable about it. I'm letting it longer, maybe another week.

Every time I get close to that Nanan-Bouclou, I am just knocked over by that fruity/funky pungent aroma! Leaves on both plants are turning yellow rapidly due to the maturity and the nutrient flush.

Nanan-Bouclou side (left) of cabinet:

Zamalelica (Zamal dominate) x Malawi Gold side of cabinet:

Once again, I apologize for my crappy photography skills. I am charging the battery on a new camera. It still is the point and shoot quality, but perhaps it will improve the images in the future.


All The Best,

ThaiBliss

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hello,

I'm playing around with a new camera, and it is confirmed that it is not so much the camera that is bad, it is my skills. I notice only a slight improvement from the new camera. I'll need to bring some bud outside when I harvest to get some decent pictures, because those blue (green) and yellow lights I have for growing are terrible for photography.

Since I have some new shots, I'll post them here. The first are the Jamaicans that have exploded in growth. I have a Red Hair plant that has been in vegetation mode for more than two months, and the Jamaicans that are 3 weeks old are almost as tall and will surpass it any day. I swear they are starting to grow almost an inch a day. I'm going to have to bend, and bend, and tie them into knots before it is all over.

The one on the left looked like a male at one point, and its lanky build supports that evidence. The right one is bushier, and at one point looked female. It now looks confused. I'll keep growing them to see what happens.

Close up of the bushy, hopefully female, individual:

I wanted to try and get some close ups of the Zamaldelica (Zamal dominate) x Malawi Gold. It is getting really close to being done, calyxes are swelling dramatically, and resin is increasing by leaps and bounds:

This will be done by next week for sure. It is still swelling and resins are piling on, but the resins are actually turning color faster than the Nanan-Bouclou. The NB may be ready before next weekend. It has had plenty of resin created longer ago, but has mostly cloudy ones now. I can't find color in its resins.

ThaiBliss

 

[mr. gt]

Looking great man! Have you thought about cutting a couple buds at different stages to see which you like the most? I would love to try a little early and a little more on the amber side as well.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Looking great man! Have you thought about cutting a couple buds at different stages to see which you like the most? I would love to try a little early and a little more on the amber side as well.

Great minds...

I cut a Nanan-Bouclou branch already.

 

[idiit]

i popped the png leaning nb few days ago. beans were finally ripe. i smoked it for a couple nights and my strain tester ( she'a a lot better than me at smoke assessments imo) finished off her's yesterday.

it is psychoactive. it is very good smoke. my strain tester likes it better atm than any of my other strains. very good potency, some psychoactivity, long duration to the high ( 4 hours). up yet fucked up, happy, still want to get things done smoke. smoke aroma is old school delightful. taste is old school tasty.

tb's png dom nb looks like i want for a png pheno out of nanan bouclou. i'm really looking forward to his smoke report.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Idiit,

Thanks for the report. It sounds like the kind of weed I like.

I harvested that one branch, and after a couple of days drying, the aroma is changing from fruity to more dank and spicy. Also when I carried the branch over to my drying screen, my fingers smelled very strongly like that lemongrass aroma that I smelled on the stems when it was young.

Have a great day,

ThaiBliss

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

I just harvested almost all of the Nanan-Bouclou. I'm leaving one branch for testing at a slightly riper level. I guess what prompted me to harvest was the observation that the first branch I harvested now has a dramatically different aroma. When I cut it, it smelled strongly of sweet fruit with a funk to it. After a few days of drying, it now smells like lemongrass concentrate. As if it is so concentrated that it is bitter, like the rind of a citrus fruit. It is also smelling hashy. It is still very pungent. I can't wait to try this stuff.

I found a picture from another thread, a Fets 303 grow. I have read somewhere that 303 is Papua New Guinea Gold x Hawaiian. I see some similarities of the 303 leaf, and the Nanan-Bouclou. Both leaves have leaflets that have very jagged serrations at the base of a leaflet, like some Thai strains, then the serrations kind of mellow out halfway down to the tip of the leaflet.

The first picture below is the Nanan-Bouclou, and the second is Fet's 303:

Do you see it? I wish I had the 303 also.

Can't get that aroma out of my head.


ThaiBliss

 

[bushweed]

Yeah I can see the similarities, the shape of the fleshy part of your hand near the thumb, the play of light against your skin.

I'd say they both have some indica-tive of what's that shit?

I do not know the complete breeding back ground of this strain but I have been told it consist of what flooded this land back in the early 70s the all great PNG Gold and various Hawaiian/Fiji strains. Papua New Guinea Gold would most likely be the main contributor to this strain. Some time back it was then crossed with a wide leaf strains as the old timers call it, Indica I presume? They crossed what they already had with the wide leaf variety (indica?) to rise above there competition and this is what they have today? With this indica crossing it has most likely cut down the flowering time making this strain possible to grown indoors and still be able to control it. 303 is a sweet spicy fruity flavour with a piney-fruity aroma with a very intense high mind-lifting it can bring about heart-racing and even panic for users not used to strong sativas or if overdone, due to its creeping effect can soon have you blown off your feet. Don't make the mistake of wacking a few fast ones down because before you know it your praying it will wear off fast as it can just become to intense for the user. This strain is a super long lasting stone that does not need to be constantly topped up every hour like many it just last and last.The flowers are not show material but they certainly pack a punch so look out !

Bagseed in other words

Mine are about 6" tall and have the narrowest leaves I've seen in a while (even narrower than zamal, malawi, acapulco gold, santa marta, oaxacan etc) only a few older thais and maybe a couple mexicans have leaves this long and narrow from the beginning..

He wasn't very widely read either, he thought 303 was a pure sat...

Random non sequitir. This was some of the b-grade sticks they used to sell to Howard Marks for the Welsh market...

 

[idiit]

They crossed what they already had with the wide leaf variety (indica?) to rise above there competition and this is what they have today? With this indica crossing it has most likely cut down the flowering time making this strain possible to grown indoors and still be able to control it. 303 is a sweet spicy fruity flavour with a piney-fruity aroma with a very intense high mind-lifting it can bring about heart-racing and even panic for users not used to strong sativas or if overdone, due to its creeping effect can soon have you blown off your feet. Don't make the mistake of wacking a few fast ones down because before you know it your praying it will wear off fast as it can just become to intense for the user. This strain is a super long lasting stone that does not need to be constantly topped up every hour like many it just last and last.The flowers are not show material but they certainly pack a punch so look out !

^^ def. see indica influence in my png dom nb#2. don't see as much in tb's png dom looking nb.

303 is a sweet spicy fruity flavour with a piney-fruity aroma with a very intense high mind-lifting it can bring about heart-racing and even panic for users not used to strong sativas or if overdone, due to its creeping effect can soon have you blown off your feet. Don't make the mistake of wacking a few fast ones down because before you know it your praying it will wear off fast as it can just become to intense for the user. This strain is a super long lasting stone that does not need to be constantly topped up every hour like many it just last and last.The flowers are not show material but they certainly pack a punch so look out

^^ what i tell you about my png dom nb? 4 hour high, leaves pack more punch than any strain i've tested and emit an exquisite smoke aroma when being burned. spicy, sweet, fruity terpenes are right on the money.




duration was changed as we smoked it to more like 4 hours. spicy sweet with orange flavors on top, spicy old skool on bottom. closest thing i know is excellent smcg re power, terpenes, psychoactivity. smcg is closest, not identical. never tasted orange in smcg and the smcg terpenes are rich, old skool tasty/exquisite but different than nb2 png dom.

now i'm really anticipating tb's png dom looking nb smoke report.

 

[ThaiBliss]

"shape of the fleshy part of your hand near the thumb, the play of light against your skin"


This looks like the "bagseed" also:

Whereas the Gypsy Nirvana Thai has the jagged serrations all the way down the leaflet:

It may be just the Aussie conditions... too much sun.


Best,

ThaiBliss

 

[bushweed]

Ah, bloody leaf connoisseurs!

Here's more Aussie bagseed ""sativa"".

Great to hear the report of Nanan-Bouclou's power idiit, we might be the only 3 idiots on here who will grow it...Here's some N-B from Ozg....

Reminds me of what Fet said; The flowers are not show material but they certainly pack a punch so look out !

p.s. Jamaican lambsbrains looks very nice TB..

 

[porn]

I have been smoking some trippy crosses ; Panama X Oldtimerhaze (oily, incense, complex, herbal), Destroyer x mextiza/DC (more speedy, energy, clear, some pepery, catpiss, woody earthy).
Waiting for panama x mextiza/DC (80 days flowering lemony, lime and fruity as hell)...
Pics;1 PxMx/DC, PxOH, DxMx/DC...

 

[Gert Lush]

Yeah I can see the similarities, the shape of the fleshy part of your hand near the thumb, the play of light against your skin.

Don't be daft, my hand doesn't look anything like TB's.

Bagseed in other words

As they say, all the best weed anyone ever smoked came from bagseed.

Also this bagseed is phenomenally identifiable & consistent across batches and growers, both in odour and hit; it also breeds true.

He wasn't very widely read either, he thought 303 was a pure sat...

If you're going to slpit hairs, I'll remind you that there is no such thing as pure "sativa" or "indica", they are both misnomers used as a (messed-up) convention by stoners to kinda group weed into very broad groups. The terms themselves have no meaning.

You could argue that it is not NLD, I suppose, though I don't see how

j/k Hope you are doing well, bushy!

(ps: 4 idiots, please)

 

[Gert Lush]

On the subject of leaf shapes.

I kept a good Johnny Blaze pheno for an inordinately long time under 24/0 (3 months+, don't ask) and its leaves, which were originally quite broadish became thinner and thinner and thinner, now quite resembling the 303. Hm... interesting.

 

[Bob Green]

Could be five idiots. Cant wait to hear some smoke reports!

 

[Gert Lush]

Hi ThaiBliss, good to see all going well.
I'm glad, at least, that the NB was not a waste of time, even if we're not that much nearer to understanding the provenance. Like everyone else, am looking forward to the smoke report!

I was smoking something I'd definitely count as trippy last night. It came as a bit of a surprise, no photos sorry, no clones kept either, but I do have quite a few seeds. This was a cross I'd done a while ago, and sort of left it by the wayside, thought I'd chuck a couple of seeds in to see if it was any good.

Genetics as follows: A good friend from the boards, who seems to have vanished of late (if you read this mate drop us a line) had made a rather good cross of CBG's Nep Highland with a mexi-leaning KCBrains Damage. In perfect bad taste, it was christened Nepali Royal Massacre, LOL. Another good friend had some bagseed from what he claimed was a very good, trippy, Greek bagseed. It grew out quite interesting, Thai-like, I suppose (like everything else on the planet, it seems ) but I only got a male. This male was crossed to the NRM, and the result is what I'm talking about.

The weed is very strong, very uppy and very mentally stimulating, it will take you on a chain of whirlwind mind-trips before you've even noticed it's happening, yet very pleasant and moreish. Unlike most other electric sativas, it can have some sleep at the tail-end, or at least a very chilled vibe, nothing like the wired state that preceeded it.
One pheno is a bit more sane and highly social and motivational, the other a bit more of a thrasher (like some phenos of its NRM parent). Smoke enough and you may struggle with simple logical tasks. Like remembering what year it is.
Yield's not half-bad, either.

I am impressed enough, that I will put a few more out right away. Do a bit of a pheno hunt.

It's funny but all through my short growing "career" that Nepali (originaaly from Reeferman, I think) and the 303 are threaded through as two mainstays of the best stuff I've procuced.
Maybe this Balkan "Thai" will be added to that lot!

 

[Gert Lush]

OK guys and dolls, here's a poser:

Define what "trippy weed" means for you.

Very intense flights of imagination? Seeing things that aren't there? Or maybe that are there, but no-one else can see? "Cartoon-like" vision? Heightened perception of music and colours? Can something be trippy AND clear at the same time? How about trippy and totally confused? Can seeing new possibilities and thinking out of the box be considered "trippy", or does that belong totally to the "cerebral" category?

 

[Thule]

"Trippy" or racy to me is when you see things in a new light from a new perspective and are unable to control your train of thought. It's like your whole perception of every day life is very quickly transformed into something new. It is an overwhelming experience and involves a lot of adrenaline. That's the best I can do to describe it. Then again trippy can also mean completely losing yourself inside your head, not even remembering you have a life. Kind of like dreaming while being awake, although this can also be considered as "narcotic". To me just about anything with high THC can turn into a trippy experience depending on my tolerance, my surroundings and my mental state of being. Strains are different though, high powered sativa strains tend to open more doors of perception than hybrids do and are more rewarding in that sense.

 

[jayjayfrank]

some of the 'trippy' effects i have experienced specifically from herb and how they relate to other stuff

Brightness - LSD-like unfocused 'glow' of light emitting and reflecting objects. can include the 'skewed colors' involving your complete field of vision(things look orange/blue). experienced from the zamaldelica

Heaviness - Magic Mushroom like body feel, heavy lethargy, relaxed muscles similar to narcotic pain relievers, will put you to sleep within 6 hours. IME was a pronounced effect from a very over ripe malawi(have not had the same experience with ANY wideleaf)

Slow Motion/Low Frame Rate - shutter effect, similar to massive binge drinking, a more recent experience, literally like watching 30fps video content on a low bandwidth connection. only recently found this from herb, 4+ month cured zamaldelica, effect was not in earlier samples.

Lightness/Awake - physical energy and 'clarity' of vision, can spot a mouse in a field a mile away. 'pumped' and 'amped up' like cocaine, no sleeping, will even keep you up if smoking before bed(as in 'why am i laying here awake'). experienced in hazexskunk and nevilles haze.

NON-Trippy effects include:

laughter/happiness - most all herb gives me the giggles, usually at the beginning of the day

music/sound - 'gestalt' is lost, 'mistake the forest for the trees', instruments in unison as a whole loose their 'togetherness' and the ear will pick out individual sounds to focus on, instead of taking it all in as a whole.

UNwanted effects:

illness/sick - massive hits bring on a feeling of uneasiness, almost like sea sickness, at first might be unaware of why or unfamiliar with it in regards to herb. can get this from most 'good' indicas (and i mean good) when properly dried and cured

paranoia/anxiety - have only had this once or twice, not a good feeling, complete hormonal 'fight or flight' terror. thought to myself "why did you did that?! you are going to have a heart attack" - taking a break and then partaking in hash seem to give you an 'overload'

and the doozy, the one that did me, only once, never found it again(maybe everybody only gets one?), still on the look out, will stop looking if i ever find it

WALKING WITH JESUS - the white light, ethereal perception, 3rd eye opening, epiphany. almost complete non-functioning endocannabinoid system overload. not just couch locked, not just on a space trip but completely re-wiring of the brain while conscious. suspect may only be a one off experience not to be repeated. was from(supposedly) indica x jamaican hybrid cross, LA area circa 2000

 

[BoldAsLove]

jayjayfrank, that was an awesome post, I can't give reputation yet but would. That pretty well sums up most of the trippy effects I've experienced before too.

Heaviness - Magic Mushroom like body feel, heavy lethargy, relaxed muscles similar to narcotic pain relievers, will put you to sleep within 6 hours. IME was a pronounced effect from a very over ripe malawi(have not had the same experience with ANY wideleaf)

WALKING WITH JESUS - the white light, ethereal perception, 3rd eye opening, epiphany. almost complete non-functioning endocannabinoid system overload. not just couch locked, not just on a space trip but completely re-wiring of the brain while conscious. suspect may only be a one off experience not to be repeated. was from(supposedly) indica x jamaican hybrid cross, LA area circa 2000

Under the "Heaviness" category--Has anyone else experienced a warping visual effect from this class of smoke? It seems as though my entire visual field twists a small but very noticeable and trippy amount. It's happened twice to me--a vague strain called NorCal that I got at a SoCal dispensary, and a Malawi pheno of Zamaldelica. In both strains, it came on at the peak of the high, and only lasted a minute or two at the most, and also only with a very large dose.

Walking with Jesus lol great name. I can think of this one time something like that happened to me, I think it was from this insane head rush I had one morning after smoking some Jamaica Blue Mountain (funny it was a Jamaican strain). I had been fasting for around 15 hrs, I had coffee that morning, I smoked a good amount of JBM, I stood up very quickly, and sat back down just as quickly hahaha. I believe it was a sharp drop in my already low blood sugar levels combined with a sharp drop in blood pressure that caused it. I couldn't see (blackness), couldn't really think, I couldn't sit up straight, basically I couldn't control my mind or body. I wasn't freaking out though when it happened (same couldn't be said for my lady), The only thing I could do was laugh at how weird the non-control felt. The whole thing lasted a minute or so. That may or may not be related to walking with Jesus though hahaha. That sounds more like the first time I smoked.

Man what a thread! It will be fun to read idiit and ThaiBliss' smoke reports.